Yes, and?CID1990 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:20 amThere is all kinds of room on the scale for Pelosi and Fascisty Manchin to be well to the right of you and still be liberal, klamkalm wrote:
Don’t disagree. Why do you think I tail against Pelosi AND Manchin and suggest the DNC is center right? But these aren’t new concepts either.
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Yes, and while Pelosi and others may be political chameleons, they are currently supporting the Leftist agenda (i.e. not center right) regardless of whether you classify them as mainstream.
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Oh man…
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translation: Shit, I've been painted into a logical corner again....
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Hell the “plenty o liberals are actually closet libertarians” was so absurd I thought it was just a bad troll and almost let it go
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We’ve been through this before. Libertarians are closet republicans who like to smoke weed and get laid.
We know you don’t smoke weed, so…….
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And today's so called progressives are lazy shits who don't want to put in the effort or take risks but are envious that people who do are more successful then they are.
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FYP
Millennials are the modern Boomer. Selfishly asking the government to spend money on their pet projects while exponentially adding to the debt of future generations.
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Yeah! As a fellow Gen X’er who also has Gen Z kids I’m totally down with this narrative!
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No..I don't think I will
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How about we stop doing stuff like this?
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Someone who identifies as a ‘progressive’ is just a liberal who doesn’t like being called a liberal.
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I’m a proud liberal. No wait…I’m also a progressive. I’ve also been a capitalistic neoliberal. Hot damn it’s hard keeping up.
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I'm shocked that six pages in there are no real proposals from the board progressives.
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Progressives are anything but liberal.
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Truer words have never been spoken.
America is fine, the political parties need fixin.
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This thread is a microcosm of our politics. Facts are rare, but emotions rule the day.
Lots of talk but no hard ideas from some. Though they are pretty good at finger pointing though and circling the wagons around their pet ideas.
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I will say this: I'm more than shocked. I'm disappointed. I'm willing to discuss/debate literally ANY of the items on this list, but apparently I need to put it on tik tok or twitter to get their attention....that' supposedly where they get all their juicy news from.
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Hence my recommendation that we stop all "aid" to foreign countries. We have our OWN issues to fix, we don't need to be sending hard-earned tax dollars to (in this case) the Taliban, because you KNOW that's who's getting this money.
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Ditto.
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gee, why would they do that?
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So we should let our former allies that we left behind starve.
About what I'd expect from a banker.
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Deficits don't matter. We'll just have a reset when late-stage capitalism inevitably breaks down.
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FYP
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