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UNI88 wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:52 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:35 am

Given your initial statement, it would imply that Rittenhouse is neither a dimwit NOR "untrained"....
I wouldn't call him untrained but he could definitely be called dimwitted for going out of his way to put himself in a situation where he had to kill people in self defense.
He'll make a great cop for some small town :coffee:
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houndawg wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:59 am
UNI88 wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:52 am

I wouldn't call him untrained but he could definitely be called dimwitted for going out of his way to put himself in a situation where he had to kill people in self defense.
He'll make a great cop for some small town :coffee:
Unlike the three he shot, who would make great nothings nowhere. :coffee:
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UNI88 wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:52 am I wouldn't call him untrained but he could definitely be called dimwitted for going out of his way to put himself in a situation where he had to kill people in self defense.
He'll make a great cop for some small town :coffee:
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AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:35 am
Ibanez wrote: Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:23 pm
Alec Baldwin has proved any dimwit can pull a trigger and kill someone. :lol:

If you think i'm "left" or "angry", then you're mistaken. :lol: I think justice was served. Let's just be realistic.
Given your initial statement, it would imply that Rittenhouse is neither a dimwit NOR "untrained"....
Personally - anyone that willingly puts themselves into a divisive riot that exists because of race MIGHT not be the sharpest tool in the shed. I'm all for people going above and beyond (after all - I did that last week after watching a car leave I85 and literally fly off the embankment. As soon as the first responders showed up, I backed away. ) but you have to be smart about it. :twocents:
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houndawg wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:58 am
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Houndy seems a little salty...his roommate at the assisted living facility musta run out of Viagra again. :ohno:
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Holy fucking shit.

This video is insane. NBC had the courthouse staked out, so they could follow jurors. Just listen to the gal say, "um" over and over. She was put in the spot and couldn't answer.

Shameful.

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Ibanez wrote: Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:23 pm
SDHornet wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:28 am

His dad does.

And "untrained" is questionable given at how well he disposed of his felonious attackers and hit no one else while in the process. :coffee:

Rittenhouse is a fucking hero. :nod:

I'm absolutely loving how much this verdict angers the Left. :lol:
Alec Baldwin has proved any dimwit can pull a trigger and kill someone. :lol:

If you think i'm "left" or "angry", then you're mistaken. :lol: I think justice was served. Let's just be realistic.
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SeattleGriz wrote:Holy fucking shit.

This video is insane. NBC had the courthouse staked out, so they could follow jurors. Just listen to the gal say, "um" over and over. She was put in the spot and couldn't answer.

Shameful.

According to JSO, that kind of thing shouldn’t make the judge mad


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SDHornet wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:50 am
Ibanez wrote: Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:23 pm
Alec Baldwin has proved any dimwit can pull a trigger and kill someone. :lol:

If you think i'm "left" or "angry", then you're mistaken. :lol: I think justice was served. Let's just be realistic.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Possible if (A) someone had cocked the hammer before he picked it up, and (B) there was a catastrophic mechanical failure within the weapon at the exact moment he pointed it at the woman who was killed…

(B) above will be easy to detect by an expert, and you know everyone involved with this will have their own expert…without visual evidence, (A) will be his word…
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CID1990 wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:29 am
SeattleGriz wrote:Holy fucking shit.

This video is insane. NBC had the courthouse staked out, so they could follow jurors. Just listen to the gal say, "um" over and over. She was put in the spot and couldn't answer.

Shameful.

According to JSO, that kind of thing shouldn’t make the judge mad


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CID1990 wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:29 am According to JSO, that kind of thing shouldn’t make the judge mad


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CID1990 wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:29 am
SeattleGriz wrote:Holy fucking shit.

This video is insane. NBC had the courthouse staked out, so they could follow jurors. Just listen to the gal say, "um" over and over. She was put in the spot and couldn't answer.

Shameful.

According to JSO, that kind of thing shouldn’t make the judge mad


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UNI88 wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:06 am
houndawg wrote:
He'll make a great cop for some small town :coffee:
Want to post like Houndy? Just pick a variation of one or more of the following responses and post something short, glib and irrelevant:
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houndawg wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 6:10 am
UNI88 wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:06 am Want to post like Houndy? Just pick a variation of one or more of the following responses and post something short, glib and irrelevant:
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- China will be our masters.
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Ibanez wrote: Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:23 pm
SDHornet wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:28 am

His dad does.

And "untrained" is questionable given at how well he disposed of his felonious attackers and hit no one else while in the process. :coffee:

Rittenhouse is a fucking hero. :nod:

I'm absolutely loving how much this verdict angers the Left. :lol:
Alec Baldwin has proved any dimwit can pull a trigger and kill someone. :lol:

If you think i'm "left" or "angry", then you're mistaken. :lol: I think justice was served. Let's just be realistic.
Baldwin claimed in his Stephanopolus interview he didn’t pull the trigger. :roll:
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The judge should have been removed from the Rittenhouse case he was acting like CLARENCE DARROW!!!!!
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dal4018 wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:26 am The judge should have been removed from the Rittenhouse case he was acting like CLARENCE DARROW!!!!!
And the prosecutor was about as smart as Barney Fife. The judge knew 5 minutes into the trial they shouldn’t have even BEEN in trial.
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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:21 am
Ibanez wrote: Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:23 pm
Alec Baldwin has proved any dimwit can pull a trigger and kill someone. :lol:

If you think i'm "left" or "angry", then you're mistaken. :lol: I think justice was served. Let's just be realistic.
Baldwin claimed in his Stephanopolus interview he didn’t pull the trigger. :roll:
:lol: Perhaps he doesn't identify anymore with the person that fired the gun.
We have to keep in mind they aren't using a stock gun from Cabela's.
In Baldwin’s case, though, the claim is at least somewhat more believable. That’s because the gun involved is more prone to firing without the trigger being pulled. And, even though it’s a modern replica of an antique design, it’s possible it did not include modern safety devices.
https://thereload.com/analysis-yes-alec ... e-trigger/

That article goes through a couple scenarios as to how the gun could've fired w/o pulling the trigger, like already having the trigger depressed when you pull the hammer back.
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Ibanez wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 7:50 am
BDKJMU wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:21 am
Baldwin claimed in his Stephanopolus interview he didn’t pull the trigger. :roll:
:lol: Perhaps he doesn't identify anymore with the person that fired the gun.
We have to keep in mind they aren't using a stock gun from Cabela's.
In Baldwin’s case, though, the claim is at least somewhat more believable. That’s because the gun involved is more prone to firing without the trigger being pulled. And, even though it’s a modern replica of an antique design, it’s possible it did not include modern safety devices.
https://thereload.com/analysis-yes-alec ... e-trigger/

That article goes through a couple scenarios as to how the gun could've fired w/o pulling the trigger, like already having the trigger depressed when you pull the hammer back.
From the above link:
Santa Fe County Sheriff Adan Mendoza identified the gun used in the shooting as a modern Pietta replica of a single-action army revolver….

….Those guns can be bought either with a transfer bar that makes it impossible for the firing pin to strike the primer unless the trigger is pulled or without one.
Pietta and Uberti are 2 Italian gunmakers that make replicas of the 1873 Colt SAA (single action army) Peacemaker, the most famous handgun of the old west. Earlier this year I bought a Uberti 1873 Cattleman II in 45 LC, imported & tuned up by Taylors. It has a transfer bar. A modern Colt SAA is better quality and more historically accurate, but would have cost 3x as much. Its not like I get dressed up like a Cowboy and do 3 Gun Comps, I just had never shot, much less owned, a SA revolver before, only DA..Just got it to shoot at the range and satisfy the history nerd in me.

As far as the Pietta, as far as I can find, their 1873 SAA, just like Uberti, have had transfer bars for a while.
Pietta made safety and reliability improvements to the old 1873 pattern by using a transfer bar and coil spring and plunger for the hand.
http://www.ktgunsmith.com/colt_clone.htm

I’m thinking its BS that he didn‘t pull the trigger..
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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 2:49 pm
Ibanez wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 7:50 am
:lol: Perhaps he doesn't identify anymore with the person that fired the gun.
We have to keep in mind they aren't using a stock gun from Cabela's.



https://thereload.com/analysis-yes-alec ... e-trigger/

That article goes through a couple scenarios as to how the gun could've fired w/o pulling the trigger, like already having the trigger depressed when you pull the hammer back.
From the above link:
Santa Fe County Sheriff Adan Mendoza identified the gun used in the shooting as a modern Pietta replica of a single-action army revolver….

….Those guns can be bought either with a transfer bar that makes it impossible for the firing pin to strike the primer unless the trigger is pulled or without one.
Pietta and Uberti are 2 Italian gunmakers that make replicas of the Colt SAA (single action army) Peacemaker, the most famous handgun of the old west. Earlier this year I bought a Uberti 1873 Cattleman II in 45 LC, imported & tuned up by Taylors. It has a transfer bar. A modern Colt SAA is better quality and more historically accurate, but would have cost 3x as much. Its not like I get dressed up like a Cowboy and do 3 Gun Comps, I just had never shot, much less owned, a SA revolver before, only DA..Kist got it to shoot at the range..

As far as the Pietta, as far as I can find, their 1873 SAA, just like Uberti, have had transfer bars for a while.
Pietta made safety and reliability improvements to the old 1873 pattern by using a transfer bar and coil spring and plunger for the hand.
http://www.ktgunsmith.com/colt_clone.htm

I’m thinking its BS that he didn‘t pull the trigger..
Yeah - I read the article. He said what happened -
“I cock the gun. I go, ‘Can you see that? Can you see that? Can you see that?’” Baldwin told ABC. “And then I let go of the hammer of the gun, and the gun goes off. I let go of the hammer of the gun, the gun goes off.”


He's playing a semantics game.
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Ibanez wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:43 am
BDKJMU wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 2:49 pm

From the above link:


Pietta and Uberti are 2 Italian gunmakers that make replicas of the Colt 1873 SAA (single action army) Peacemaker, the most famous handgun of the old west. Earlier this year I bought a Uberti 1873 Cattleman II in 45 LC, imported & tuned up by Taylors. It has a transfer bar. A modern Colt SAA is better quality and more historically accurate, but would have cost 3x as much. Its not like I get dressed up like a Cowboy and do 3 Gun Comps, I just had never shot, much less owned, a SA revolver before, only DA..Kist got it to shoot at the range..

As far as the Pietta, as far as I can find, their 1873 SAA, just like Uberti, have had transfer bars for a while.

http://www.ktgunsmith.com/colt_clone.htm

I’m thinking its BS that he didn‘t pull the trigger..
Yeah - I read the article. He said what happened -
“I cock the gun. I go, ‘Can you see that? Can you see that? Can you see that?’” Baldwin told ABC. “And then I let go of the hammer of the gun, and the gun goes off. I let go of the hammer of the gun, the gun goes off.”


He's playing a semantics game.
He left off the part “I had the trigger depressed” before the letting go of the hammer..Its more like he’s flat out out lying than semantocs. Either he:
-had it at full cock and pulled the trigger.
-Or depressed the trigger (ie he pulled the trigger) with the weapon uncocked (so it didn’t fire at that point) and kept the trigger depressed before pulling the hammer back and letting it go, for it to go boom.
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:59 am
Ibanez wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:43 am
Yeah - I read the article. He said what happened -

He's playing a semantics game.
He left off the part “I had the trigger depressed” before the letting go of the hammer..Its more like he’s flat out out lying than semantocs. Either he:
-had it at full cock and pulled the trigger.
-Or depressed the trigger (ie he pulled the trigger) with the weapon uncocked (so it didn’t fire at that point) and kept the trigger depressed before pulling the hammer back and letting it go, for it to go boom.
:lol: I had the same thought - that's the only way, aside from a defect, that could cause the gun to fire.

Again..even if he had done that - why was a live round in the gun?!
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Ibanez wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:01 am
BDKJMU wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:59 am
He left off the part “I had the trigger depressed” before the letting go of the hammer..Its more like he’s flat out out lying than semantocs. Either he:
-had it at full cock and pulled the trigger.
-Or depressed the trigger (ie he pulled the trigger) with the weapon uncocked (so it didn’t fire at that point) and kept the trigger depressed before pulling the hammer back and letting it go, for it to go boom.
:lol: I had the same thought - that's the only way, aside from a defect, that could cause the gun to fire.

Again..even if he had done that - why was a live round in the gun?!
Remember the old cowboy westerns when they would ‘fan’ their revolvers? They just kept the trigger depressed and rapidly pulled back on the hammer. But the trigger had to be depressed ie pulled.
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:06 am
Ibanez wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:01 am
:lol: I had the same thought - that's the only way, aside from a defect, that could cause the gun to fire.

Again..even if he had done that - why was a live round in the gun?!
Remember the old cowboy westerns when they would ‘fan’ their revolvers? They just kept the trigger depressed and rapidly pulled back on the hammer. But the trigger had to be depressed ie pulled.
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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 2:49 pm
Ibanez wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 7:50 am
:lol: Perhaps he doesn't identify anymore with the person that fired the gun.
We have to keep in mind they aren't using a stock gun from Cabela's.



https://thereload.com/analysis-yes-alec ... e-trigger/

That article goes through a couple scenarios as to how the gun could've fired w/o pulling the trigger, like already having the trigger depressed when you pull the hammer back.
From the above link:
Santa Fe County Sheriff Adan Mendoza identified the gun used in the shooting as a modern Pietta replica of a single-action army revolver….

….Those guns can be bought either with a transfer bar that makes it impossible for the firing pin to strike the primer unless the trigger is pulled or without one.
Pietta and Uberti are 2 Italian gunmakers that make replicas of the 1873 Colt SAA (single action army) Peacemaker, the most famous handgun of the old west. Earlier this year I bought a Uberti 1873 Cattleman II in 45 LC, imported & tuned up by Taylors. It has a transfer bar. A modern Colt SAA is better quality and more historically accurate, but would have cost 3x as much. Its not like I get dressed up like a Cowboy and do 3 Gun Comps, I just had never shot, much less owned, a SA revolver before, only DA..Just got it to shoot at the range and satisfy the history nerd in me.

As far as the Pietta, as far as I can find, their 1873 SAA, just like Uberti, have had transfer bars for a while.
Pietta made safety and reliability improvements to the old 1873 pattern by using a transfer bar and coil spring and plunger for the hand.
http://www.ktgunsmith.com/colt_clone.htm

I’m thinking its BS that he didn‘t pull the trigger..
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