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Re: Texan Border Action

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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:17 pm
Gov. Ron DeSantis sends Florida National, State Guard to Texas

….. Florida National Guard and State Guard members will be sent to Texas to assist with placing razor wire along the southern border and stopping illegal immigration, Gov. Ron DeSantis announced Thursday.

Florida will send up to 1,000 of its own National Guard members and State Guard volunteers to assist Texas, as the state has done with other Florida agencies over the past two years.

“The goal is to help Texas fortify this border, help them strengthen the barricades, help them add barriers, help them add the wire that they need to so that we can stop this invasion once and for all,” DeSantis said from Jacksonville’s Cecil Airport Thursday morning. “And the states have to band together.….

The State Guard became inactive in 1947 after being established in World War II to replace deployed Florida National Guard members. Bills currently being considered by the Florida Legislature (HB 1551/SB 1694) allows DeSantis to send the guard to other states.

DeSantis revived the State Guard in 2022, and the Legislature increased funding from $10 million to $107.6 million. The force tripled from 400 to 1,500 members last year. He did not specify how many of the members would be sent to Texas.

Florida already has 90 officers from the Florida Highway Patrol, Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission and the Florida Department of Law Enforcement stationed at the border.

“It's sad that you don't have a president willing to just, you know, put his foot down and say ‘I'm not going to let this happen to my country,’” DeSantis said. “But in the absence of that leadership, in the face of the dereliction of duty, we're going to step up and do our part.”

Last May, DeSantis signed into law what his office called the "strongest anti-illegal immigration legislation in the country." Among other things, it made E-Verify mandatory for employers with 25 or more workers, banned local governments from issuing identification cards to "illegal aliens" and required hospitals to "collect and submit data on the costs of providing health care to illegal aliens." Like many of his initiatives, it too is under court challenge….
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What is Ron's obsession with spending Florida's tax revenues in Texas? First paying to fly immigrants up north. Now he is sending the national guard. That money is meant to help the citizens of Florida and no one else. How is this even legal?
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bobbythekidd wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:15 pm
What is Ron's obsession with spending Florida's tax revenues in Texas? First paying to fly immigrants up north. Now he is sending the national guard. That money is meant to help the citizens of Florida and no one else. How is this even legal?
To paraphrase CH ...
Caribbean Hen wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 6:08 am How about a little question at the end of the Florida state tax return…

Would you like the federal government to deduct $500 from your tax return to send the Florida National Guard to Texas?
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UNI88 wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:23 pm
bobbythekidd wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:15 pm

What is Ron's obsession with spending Florida's tax revenues in Texas? First paying to fly immigrants up north. Now he is sending the national guard. That money is meant to help the citizens of Florida and no one else. How is this even legal?
To paraphrase CH ...
Caribbean Hen wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 6:08 am How about a little question at the end of the Florida state tax return…

Would you like the federal government to deduct $500 from your tax return to send the Florida National Guard to Texas?
But Florida doesn’t have a state tax return

My example was for a Federal return with the question being about the Ukraine
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:26 am They should listen to the BP agents

“We hear this number, six million people have come across under the current administration. I talked to experts down there that say that number is a myth, that it’s closer to 13 to 14 million that have come across," McGraw told Sean Hannity. "I asked them straight up, what is it you need here? I was shocked to hear them say, ‘We don’t need more money. We don’t need more resources, we don’t need more officers, we don’t need more legislation. We just need the laws that are on the books to be followed. We need to be allowed to do our job. And we can get this under control right now.’"
The BP's union endoeses the biparisan bill that Trump is reneging on :coffee:
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houndawg wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:29 pm
Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:26 am They should listen to the BP agents

“We hear this number, six million people have come across under the current administration. I talked to experts down there that say that number is a myth, that it’s closer to 13 to 14 million that have come across," McGraw told Sean Hannity. "I asked them straight up, what is it you need here? I was shocked to hear them say, ‘We don’t need more money. We don’t need more resources, we don’t need more officers, we don’t need more legislation. We just need the laws that are on the books to be followed. We need to be allowed to do our job. And we can get this under control right now.’"
The BP's union endoeses the biparisan bill that Trump is reneging on :coffee:
The union? The union is not the worker bees on the ground
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:33 pm
houndawg wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:29 pm
The BP's union endoeses the biparisan bill that Trump is reneging on :coffee:
The union? The union is not the worker bees on the ground
BDKJMU wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:55 pm I’ll take the word of the union reps who represent thw rank and file ...
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:33 pm
houndawg wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:29 pm

The BP's union endoeses the biparisan bill that Trump is reneging on :coffee:
The union? The union is not the worker bees on the ground
Of course it. It’s a democracy.

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kalm wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 4:01 pm
Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:33 pm

The union? The union is not the worker bees on the ground
Of course it. It’s a democracy.

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Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:33 pm
houndawg wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:29 pm

The BP's union endoeses the biparisan bill that Trump is reneging on :coffee:
The union? The union is not the worker bees on the ground
Yeah, there is no ‘Union’ The head of the BP Council shockingly endorsed it, not the rank and file (there was no vote).

Reminds me of right after the UAW leadership endorsed Biden. Yeah, we’re endorsing Biden, but the majority of our members won’t vote for hin.
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Biden and anyone that supports him are domestic terrorists.

They are not Americans
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:33 pm
houndawg wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:29 pm

The BP's union endorses the biparisan bill that Trump is reneging on :coffee:
The union? The union is not the worker bees on the ground
Yes, the union. They speak for the worker bees on the ground, negotiate contracts, that sort of thing? They had a worker bee on NPR speaking in favor of the plan yesterday.
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Bobcat wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 6:18 pm Biden and anyone that supports him are domestic terrorists.

They are not Americans

....sez the excuse for an American who is backing the traitor. Hows that Russian meat taste?
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houndawg wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 5:40 am
Bobcat wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 6:18 pm Biden and anyone that supports him are domestic terrorists.

They are not Americans

....sez the excuse for an American who is backing the traitor. Hows that Russian meat taste?
That accusation comes from a deep seated traditional/ conservative/nativist ideology. Longing for an America that’s already gone. Change is universal including culture and power dynamics.

Hence making America great AGAIN. It’s more projection driven by a historical crisis period in history. They are bothered by an inevitably evolving country.
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houndawg wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 5:35 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:33 pm

The union? The union is not the worker bees on the ground
Yes, the union. They speak for the worker bees on the ground, negotiate contracts, that sort of thing? They had a worker bee on NPR speaking in favor of the plan yesterday.
I’m sure NPR could find a UAW worker that support Biden. Doesn’t change the fact that most don’t.
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 6:58 am
houndawg wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 5:35 am

Yes, the union. They speak for the worker bees on the ground, negotiate contracts, that sort of thing? They had a worker bee on NPR speaking in favor of the plan yesterday.
I’m sure NPR could find a UAW worker that support Biden. Doesn’t change the fact that most don’t.
Poll link?
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kalm wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:03 am
BDKJMU wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 6:58 am
I’m sure NPR could find a UAW worker that support Biden. Doesn’t change the fact that most don’t.
Poll link?
The UAW president who hates Trump, called him a ‘scab’ stated the majority of their members won’t vote for Biden. Is he wrong?
viewtopic.php?p=1442532#p1442532
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kalm wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 6:26 am
houndawg wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 5:40 am


....sez the excuse for an American who is backing the traitor. Hows that Russian meat taste?
That accusation comes from a deep seated traditional/ conservative/nativist ideology. Longing for an America that’s already gone. Change is universal including culture and power dynamics.

Hence making America great AGAIN. It’s more projection driven by a historical crisis period in history. They are bothered by an inevitably evolving country.
Right

A Banana Republic is what the U.S. has evolved to

You’re right, it’s not going back to glory days when you have

Dems were for the working man and not the self appointed elites

Criminals were prosecuted and not enabled… see NYC

The justice system was trusted and not politically divided - See NYC, Philly, LA and every big blue urban cesspool

Elections were trusted - what we have is Banana 101

Education wasn’t indoctrination - our test scores are horrible today compared to 70 years ago. Lots of brilliant people helped with WW2, not sure we win that today

College was more for gifted people and not for those that have no business enrolled - yes, your degree is worthless and Obama was dead wrong touting everyone should go to college

People were more financially responsible, and not following our irresponsible government fiscal policies

The Fourth Estate is not the right arm of the Republic

Minorities start challenging the post civil rights urban plantations where the deceiving Dems harvest votes for power and control, basically telling us Blacks and Latinos we’re not good enough to make it on our own…

I’m telling you the USA is on a fast track to what Puerto Rico is, only without Puerto Rico’s beautiful playas, breezy tradewinds and the tranquility of a turquoise sea and without that, it’s no place to be. The Isla is a failed socialist trail of tears where 45% of the population is on some type of welfare
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:10 am
kalm wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:03 am

Poll link?
The UAW president who hates Trump, called him a ‘scab’ stated the majority of their members won’t vote for Biden. Is he wrong?
viewtopic.php?p=1442532#p1442532
Interesting as that clip contradicts what Fain said recently.

https://thehill.com/policy/transportati ... pitch/amp/
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kalm wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:24 am
BDKJMU wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:10 am
The UAW president who hates Trump, called him a ‘scab’ stated the majority of their members won’t vote for Biden. Is he wrong?
viewtopic.php?p=1442532#p1442532
Interesting as that clip contradicts what Fain said recently.

https://thehill.com/policy/transportati ... pitch/amp/
I don’t see anything in that article where Fain said a majority of UAW members will vote for Biden, or a majority won’t vote for Trump.
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Another RINO defector…

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kalm wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 4:01 pm
Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:33 pm

The union? The union is not the worker bees on the ground
Of course it. It’s a bureaucratic group that says what the Dems tell them to say and reminds people to use sick leave even if you’re not sick

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Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 8:25 am
kalm wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 4:01 pm

Of course it. It’s a bureaucratic group that says what the Dems tell them to say and reminds people to use sick leave even if you’re not sick

(Oops…I said a dirty word didn’t I?)
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Wait! Are you implying that labor is on the left side of the spectrum and that establishment Dems are center right?

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kalm wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 8:44 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 8:25 am

FYP
Wait! Are you implying that labor is on the left side of the spectrum and that establishment Dems are center right?

:clap: :thumb:
I’m just providing you with some real world observations

I’ll let you classify left right
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 9:24 am
kalm wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 8:44 am

Wait! Are you implying that labor is on the left side of the spectrum and that establishment Dems are center right?

:clap: :thumb:
I’m just providing you with some real world observations

I’ll let you classify left right
What other real world observations have you made about labor? Or is that it?
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