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BDKJMU wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:05 pm
houndawg wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 11:36 am

$3.60/gal for whole milk yesterday........$3.39/gal for gas yesterday... :coffee:
Whatver you’re paying now for milk, you’re paying 20% more, and about a dollar more per gallon of gas, than you were in Jan 2021.
Prices go up over time, BD, not down. All over the world. Worse than here in most places.
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BDKJMU wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:05 pm
houndawg wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 11:36 am

$3.60/gal for whole milk yesterday........$3.39/gal for gas yesterday... :coffee:
Whatver you’re paying now for milk, you’re paying 20% more, and about a dollar more per gallon of gas, than you were in Jan 2021.
Not according to the numbers you cite. According to the numbers you cite I paid a penny under the 2021 national average for a gallon of milk yesterday.

As for gas, the national average at Christmas, 2021, was $3.26,gal so I paid and $0.13/gal more just under 2.5 years later. Clearly this is the end of times :roll:
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houndawg wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:31 am
BDKJMU wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:05 pm

Whatver you’re paying now for milk, you’re paying 20% more, and about a dollar more per gallon of gas, than you were in Jan 2021.
Not according to the numbers you cite. According to the numbers you cite I paid a penny under the 2021 national average for a gallon of milk yesterday.

As for gas, the national average at Christmas, 2021, was $3.26,gal so I paid and $0.13/gal more just under 2.5 years later. Clearly this is the end of times :roll:
Was at a Wendy’s drive through for a late night quickly

I noticed the car in front of me paid $31 for two ..yikes … I would be curious to look at these peoples finances

Broke out the App and got a single burger for a $1

Always a way to find a work a round on Joey Rottens run away inflation… take the savings and loan it to Janet for a 5.3 % 28 day return

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houndawg wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:31 am
BDKJMU wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:05 pm

Whatver you’re paying now for milk, you’re paying 20% more, and about a dollar more per gallon of gas, than you were in Jan 2021.
Not according to the numbers you cite. According to the numbers you cite I paid a penny under the 2021 national average for a gallon of milk yesterday.

As for gas, the national average at Christmas, 2021, was $3.26,gal so I paid and $0.13/gal more just under 2.5 years later. Clearly this is the end of times :roll:
Prediction: gas prices will go up prior to the election with the Saudi’s control of a huge chunk of crude production as well as the the largest refinery in the U.S.
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kalm wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 9:56 am
houndawg wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:31 am

Not according to the numbers you cite. According to the numbers you cite I paid a penny under the 2021 national average for a gallon of milk yesterday.

As for gas, the national average at Christmas, 2021, was $3.26,gal so I paid and $0.13/gal more just under 2.5 years later. Clearly this is the end of times :roll:
Prediction: gas prices will go up prior to the election with the Saudi’s control of a huge chunk of crude production as well as the the largest refinery in the U.S.
Nationalize oil. :coffee:
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kalm wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 9:56 am
houndawg wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:31 am

Not according to the numbers you cite. According to the numbers you cite I paid a penny under the 2021 national average for a gallon of milk yesterday.

As for gas, the national average at Christmas, 2021, was $3.26,gal so I paid and $0.13/gal more just under 2.5 years later. Clearly this is the end of times :roll:
Prediction: gas prices will go up prior to the election with the Saudi’s control of a huge chunk of crude production as well as the the largest refinery in the U.S.
Also: House of Saud covers Trump's bond
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houndawg wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 11:34 am
kalm wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 9:56 am

Prediction: gas prices will go up prior to the election with the Saudi’s control of a huge chunk of crude production as well as the the largest refinery in the U.S.
Nationalize oil. :coffee:
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#1 oil producing nation on earth. Pissing away tax payer savings for corporate profits.
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houndawg wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:31 am
BDKJMU wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:05 pm

Whatver you’re paying now for milk, you’re paying 20% more, and about a dollar more per gallon of gas, than you were in Jan 2021.
Not according to the numbers you cite. According to the numbers you cite I paid a penny under the 2021 national average for a gallon of milk yesterday.

As for gas, the national average at Christmas, 2021, was $3.26,gal so I paid and $0.13/gal more just under 2.5 years later. Clearly this is the end of times :roll:
Gosh you are :dunce: Whatever you are paying now, it is likely 20+% more than you were paying in Jan 2021. If you are paying $3.60 now, then you were likely paying around $3 in Jan 2021.

We’re not talking your podunkville. We are talking NATIONAL avg.. Gallon whole milk NATIONAL avg Jan 2021 was $3.61. (link earlier post). Gallon whole milk NATIONAL avg Feb 2024 was $4.36 (link earlier post). In case your IL 6.93 math doesn’t compute, that is about a 21% increase. Apparently in your podunkville you pay less than most of the country. Many rural areas do. Congrats.

Gas $3.26 Christmas average Christmas 2021 was after Biden had been in office for almost a year. Irrelevant. The Christmas before with Trump’s last month in office it was $2.22 a gallon (AAA national avg on 12/20/20). Again, you’re paying over a dollar more a gallon than when Trump was in office.
https://www.finder.com/economics/gas-prices

Posted earlier, the Biden inflation tracker (updated Feb) is Bidenflation NATIONAL avg:
https://datavisualizations.heritage.org ... n-tracker/
Most of the country thinks we’re paying significantly higher prices under Biden. Since you are one of the few who doesn’t, keep trying to defend 40 year high inflation under your boy Biden.
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houndawg wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 11:34 am
kalm wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 9:56 am

Prediction: gas prices will go up prior to the election with the Saudi’s control of a huge chunk of crude production as well as the the largest refinery in the U.S.
Nationalize oil. :coffee:
Yeah, just like Venezuela. How’d that work out. :dunce: :lol:
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BDKJMU wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 12:18 pm
houndawg wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:31 am

Not according to the numbers you cite. According to the numbers you cite I paid a penny under the 2021 national average for a gallon of milk yesterday.

As for gas, the national average at Christmas, 2021, was $3.26,gal so I paid and $0.13/gal more just under 2.5 years later. Clearly this is the end of times :roll:
Gosh you are :dunce: Whatever you are paying now, it is likely 20+% more than you were paying in Jan 2021. If you are paying $3.60 now, then you were likely paying around $3 in Jan 2021.

We’re not talking your podunkville. We are talking NATIONAL avg.. Gallon whole milk NATIONAL avg Jan 2021 was $3.61. (link earlier post). Gallon whole milk NATIONAL avg Feb 2024 was $4.36 (link earlier post). In case your IL 6.93 math doesn’t compute, that is about a 21% increase. Apparently in your podunkville you pay less than most of the country. Many rural areas do. Congrats.

Gas $3.26 Christmas average Christmas 2021 was after Biden had been in office for almost a year. Irrelevant. The Christmas before with Trump’s last month in office it was $2.22 a gallon (AAA national avg on 12/20/20). Again, you’re paying over a dollar more a gallon than when Trump was in office.
https://www.finder.com/economics/gas-prices

Posted earlier, the Biden inflation tracker (updated Feb) is Bidenflation NATIONAL avg:
https://datavisualizations.heritage.org ... n-tracker/
Most of the country thinks we’re paying significantly higher prices under Biden. Since you are one of the few who doesn’t, keep trying to defend 40 year high inflation under your boy Biden.
You're paying too much.

Which ECShithole do you live near?
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BDKJMU wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 12:28 pm
houndawg wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 11:34 am

Nationalize oil. :coffee:
Yeah, just like Venezuela. How’d that work out. :dunce: :lol:
We’re not Venezuela.
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kalm wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 1:17 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 12:28 pm
Yeah, just like Venezuela. How’d that work out. :dunce: :lol:
We’re not Venezuela.
No, we're not. We're about as close to being Venezuela as we are to being a fascist state.

Living in a fantasy land where you believe that nationalizing oil will be all sunshine and lollipops is naive and ignores the role that capitalism played in raising the US' energy production game.
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UNI88 wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 5:07 pm
kalm wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 1:17 pm

We’re not Venezuela.
No, we're not. We're about as close to being Venezuela as we are to being a fascist state.

Living in a fantasy land where you believe that nationalizing oil will be all sunshine and lollipops is naive and ignores the role that capitalism played in raising the US' energy production game.
Heavily subsidizing an industry’s externalities among capitalism either.

We’re a mixed economy.
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kalm wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 5:33 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 5:07 pm

No, we're not. We're about as close to being Venezuela as we are to being a fascist state.

Living in a fantasy land where you believe that nationalizing oil will be all sunshine and lollipops is naive and ignores the role that capitalism played in raising the US' energy production game.
Heavily subsidizing an industry’s externalities among capitalism either.

We’re a mixed economy.
Except the US isn’t subsidizing ‘Big Oil’ no matter how much you say it..
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BDKJMU wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 6:16 pm
kalm wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 5:33 pm
Heavily subsidizing an industry’s externalities among capitalism either.

We’re a mixed economy.
Except the US isn’t subsidizing ‘Big Oil’ no matter how much you say it..
I don't know if I'd go that far. - Biden budget to target U.S. fossil fuel subsidies
Calculating the cost of U.S. subsidies for the fossil fuel industry is complex because the incentives stretch across the U.S. tax code, but estimates range from $10 to $50 billion per year.
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U.S. oil and gas subsidies include provisions ranging from incentives for domestic production, write-offs and deductions tied to foreign production and income, and approved accounting methods that can reduce the stated taxable value of assets.
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BDKJMU wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 6:16 pm
kalm wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 5:33 pm

Heavily subsidizing an industry’s externalities among capitalism either.

We’re a mixed economy.
Except the US isn’t subsidizing ‘Big Oil’ no matter how much you say it..
Sigh. We’ve been though this before. There are direct subsidies and there are indirect subsidies. Public roads and infrastructure, healthcare costs, military stabilization and protection of trading routes are examples of indirect subsidies. Government picking winners and losers by favoring petrol via single car commuting vs. larger scale mass transit isn’t capitalism either.

You’re simply wrong here.
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kalm wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 7:25 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 6:16 pm
Except the US isn’t subsidizing ‘Big Oil’ no matter how much you say it..
Sigh. We’ve been though this before. There are direct subsidies and there are indirect subsidies. Public roads and infrastructure, healthcare costs, military stabilization and protection of trading routes are examples of indirect subsidies. Government picking winners and losers by favoring petrol via single car commuting vs. larger scale mass transit isn’t capitalism either.

You’re simply wrong here.
Nope. You’re wrong according to the dictionary definition of a subsidy.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/diction ... of%20money.
Oil companies are playing under the same rules as other big industry. Paying less in taxes than you think they should doesn’t = a subsidy.

Nothing about ‘indirect’ subsidies in that definition. And even if there was, what you cited “Public roads and infrastructure, healthcare costs, military stabilization and protection of trading routes” govt provides for other major industries. For ex ‘protection of trading routes’: Oil is only a fraction of shipping imports to the US.
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BDKJMU wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:31 pm
kalm wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 7:25 pm

Sigh. We’ve been though this before. There are direct subsidies and there are indirect subsidies. Public roads and infrastructure, healthcare costs, military stabilization and protection of trading routes are examples of indirect subsidies. Government picking winners and losers by favoring petrol via single car commuting vs. larger scale mass transit isn’t capitalism either.

You’re simply wrong here.
Nope. You’re wrong according to the dictionary definition of a subsidy.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/diction ... of%20money.
Oil companies are playing under the same rules as other big industry. Paying less in taxes than you think they should doesn’t = a subsidy.

Nothing about ‘indirect’ subsidies in that definition. And even if there was, what you cited “Public roads and infrastructure, healthcare costs, military stabilization and protection of trading routes” govt provides for other major industries. For ex ‘protection of trading routes’: Oil is only a fraction of shipping imports to the US.
What about Kalms free public education?

Socialism or capitalism?

He should be paying you
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BDKJMU wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:31 pm
kalm wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 7:25 pm

Sigh. We’ve been though this before. There are direct subsidies and there are indirect subsidies. Public roads and infrastructure, healthcare costs, military stabilization and protection of trading routes are examples of indirect subsidies. Government picking winners and losers by favoring petrol via single car commuting vs. larger scale mass transit isn’t capitalism either.

You’re simply wrong here.
Nope. You’re wrong according to the dictionary definition of a subsidy.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/diction ... of%20money.
Oil companies are playing under the same rules as other big industry. Paying less in taxes than you think they should doesn’t = a subsidy.

Nothing about ‘indirect’ subsidies in that definition. And even if there was, what you cited “Public roads and infrastructure, healthcare costs, military stabilization and protection of trading routes” govt provides for other major industries. For ex ‘protection of trading routes’: Oil is only a fraction of shipping imports to the US.
That’s one narrow definition and a semantic argument. And when did I say that subsidies don’t benefit multiple industries and companies?

1st rule of holes…
Subsidies are a transfer of resources from a government to a domestic entity without an equivalent contribution in return and can take many forms, including direct grants to domestic companies, tax incentives, or favorable terms for financing. Governments use subsidies for several reasons, and their terms are shaped by the goal the government hopes to accomplish.

Governments might want to achieve a national strategic objective or to gain a competitive edge in international markets. Think of production subsidies in high-tech industries such as aerospace and telecommunications, which can be used to ensure predictable or guaranteed supply chains or to protect other national security interests.

Some subsidies lack a clear rationale and may be a response to lobbying or political pressure. Others might be motivated by understandable public policy objectives, such as the need to correct market failures or to respond to national emergencies, from health to climate change. Subsidies for COVID vaccines, when governments intervened to address capacity constraints, are a recent example. Regardless of the rationale, poorly designed subsidies that have a negative effect on other countries can invite retaliatory countermeasures.

What’s wrong with subsidies?

The classic economic argument against the use of subsidies is that they cause a misalignment between prices and production costs. In doing so, they can distort markets, prevent efficient outcomes, and divert resources to less productive uses. If subsidies benefit some firms over others, they can snuff out innovation and force efficient firms to contract out work or exit the market altogether. This, in turn, can reduce overall productivity. They also create opportunities for rent-seeking behavior—activities that manipulate the distribution of economic resources to bring positive returns to individuals, not to society—and harm smaller economies that cannot afford to subsidize
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:27 am
BDKJMU wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:31 pm
Nope. You’re wrong according to the dictionary definition of a subsidy.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/diction ... of%20money.
Oil companies are playing under the same rules as other big industry. Paying less in taxes than you think they should doesn’t = a subsidy.

Nothing about ‘indirect’ subsidies in that definition. And even if there was, what you cited “Public roads and infrastructure, healthcare costs, military stabilization and protection of trading routes” govt provides for other major industries. For ex ‘protection of trading routes’: Oil is only a fraction of shipping imports to the US.
What about Kalms free public education?

Socialism or capitalism?

He should be paying you
Quiet. Sssh. Adults are debating here.

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BDKJMU wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 12:18 pm
houndawg wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:31 am

Not according to the numbers you cite. According to the numbers you cite I paid a penny under the 2021 national average for a gallon of milk yesterday.

As for gas, the national average at Christmas, 2021, was $3.26,gal so I paid and $0.13/gal more just under 2.5 years later. Clearly this is the end of times :roll:
Gosh you are :dunce: Whatever you are paying now, it is likely 20+% more than you were paying in Jan 2021. If you are paying $3.60 now, then you were likely paying around $3 in Jan 2021.

We’re not talking your podunkville. We are talking NATIONAL avg.. Gallon whole milk NATIONAL avg Jan 2021 was $3.61. (link earlier post). Gallon whole milk NATIONAL avg Feb 2024 was $4.36 (link earlier post). In case your IL 6.93 math doesn’t compute, that is about a 21% increase. Apparently in your podunkville you pay less than most of the country. Many rural areas do. Congrats.

Gas $3.26 Christmas average Christmas 2021 was after Biden had been in office for almost a year. Irrelevant. The Christmas before with Trump’s last month in office it was $2.22 a gallon (AAA national avg on 12/20/20). Again, you’re paying over a dollar more a gallon than when Trump was in office.
https://www.finder.com/economics/gas-prices

Posted earlier, the Biden inflation tracker (updated Feb) is Bidenflation NATIONAL avg:
https://datavisualizations.heritage.org ... n-tracker/
Most of the country thinks we’re paying significantly higher prices under Biden. Since you are one of the few who doesn’t, keep trying to defend 40 year high inflation under your boy Biden.
Now now, no reason to get all pissy, BD, Joey B didn't invent inflation. Its endemic to our planet. Like Covid has been ever Trump bungled the initial response.

If you were buying your gas around here you wouldn't spend nearly as much time whining about the cost of living. Sorry to hear things are tough where you live.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 4:39 pm Punch that face. You deserve it!

Can you find any of his report cards from grade school? :lol:

You aren't even trying anymore SG, just an old whore that don't give a good fuck for nothing.... :ohno:
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kalm wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 5:36 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:27 am

What about Kalms free public education?

Socialism or capitalism?

He should be paying you
Quiet. Sssh. Adults are debating here.

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Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:14 am
kalm wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 5:36 am

Quiet. Sssh. Adults are debating here.

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