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Winterborn wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:36 am
GannonFan wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:36 am Even the BBC is coming around to the idea that Biden and his spending are the primary reasons for the historic inflation we're experiencing. Once NPR agrees then hell really will freeze over.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-61569559

CNN has been downright harsh here lately (compared to coverage in the past) of him.
they're trying to get somebody...nay, ANYBODY....to watch them. :lol: :lol:
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AZGrizFan wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 7:21 am
Winterborn wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:36 am

CNN has been downright harsh here lately (compared to coverage in the past) of him.
they're trying to get somebody...nay, ANYBODY....to watch them. :lol: :lol:
They actually had an article that the new editor (I believe) is considering firing hosts that are too partisan.

Granted I will believe that when I read of it happening. :lol:
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Winterborn wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 9:09 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 7:21 am

they're trying to get somebody...nay, ANYBODY....to watch them. :lol: :lol:
They actually had an article that the new editor (I believe) is considering firing hosts that are too partisan.

Granted I will believe that when I read of it happening. :lol:
I think the left is coming to the realization that they have almost zero chance with Biden in 24’, and need to replace him.
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 12:25 pm
Winterborn wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 9:09 am

They actually had an article that the new editor (I believe) is considering firing hosts that are too partisan.

Granted I will believe that when I read of it happening. :lol:
I think the left is coming to the realization that they have almost zero chance with Biden in 24’, and need to replace him.
The "testing the water" articles are already coming out about that topic. I expect to see much more direct questioning of him running in '24 after mid-terms.

It would be even more gasoline on the fire if the Dem establishment started asking those questions now before mid-terms.
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Lol, a far worse liar than Little Red Lying Hood, and not very bright, either.
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 12:25 pm
Winterborn wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 9:09 am

They actually had an article that the new editor (I believe) is considering firing hosts that are too partisan.

Granted I will believe that when I read of it happening. :lol:
I think the left is coming to the realization that they have almost zero chance with Biden in 24’, and need to replace him.
Ironically enough the best thing that could happen to the legacy media would be a Trump win in '24.
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SDHornet wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 9:20 pm
The Biden Derangement Syndrome is strong here
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Interesting that it is taking a recession (maybe/maybe not) for Mr. Wirth to speak up when it has been known since at least Obama if not before. At this point I am curious which breaks first, the strangling of fossil fuels or peoples ability to absorb high fuel prices. If high prices is what it takes for people (voters) to pay attention to the fact that what happens in DC has long term effects, then I hope prices keep going up and people wake up to the sham that is green energy currently. That sentiment aside, higher prices will help foster more money moving in the other direction (renewable energy storage) but I would argue that this "help" isn't needed and the true cost of that switch will be the people that can least afford it.

The title of this article may sound like some sort of alarmist doom porn from people who are warning about the downstream impacts of the green new deal, but it’s actually quite serious. The statement that there will probably never be another new oil refinery built in the United States came from Mike Wirth, the CEO of Chevron and a person who should know a thing or two about how the oil and gas industry works. We previously examined the reality that we are heading for devastating shortages of gasoline, diesel, and jet fuel because of the number of oil refineries that have gone offline or been converted to process biofuels. Ed Morrissey reported on Joe Biden’s demands that the “greedy refiners” move to “turn the refineries back on” and produce more fuel. Industry leaders responded with a letter explaining how ludicrous that demand was. Now, as the Institute for Energy Research explains, the reality is setting in that there probably won’t be any new refineries being constructed and it’s entirely the fault of the Democrats’ policies.

Chevron CEO Mike Wirth does not expect another oil refinery to be built in the United States ever again, due to federal government policies. The last significant refinery built in the United States was in 1976. (A small refinery came online in 2020 in North Dakota). Over the last two years, due to reduced demand from the pandemic and President Biden’s stated policy to reduce the demand for petroleum products, U.S. refineries have been shut down or repurposed to become biofuel refineries.

In a business where investments have a payout period of a decade or more, it is unlikely for investment to be spent on policies where the demand is to be reduced. Wirth stated rhetorically, “How do you go to your board, how do you go to your shareholders and say ‘we’re going to spend billions of dollars on new capacity in a market that is, you know, the policy is taking you in the other direction.”

This isn’t some idle threat or fit of pique on the part of the oil and gas industry. It’s just basic mathematics and economics. The Democrats, now led by Joe Biden, have been warning everyone for years that they were going to find a way to move the world away from the use of fossil fuels. Biden promised to “end fossil fuels” on the campaign trail and enacted policies moving in that direction starting on his first day in office. The oil and gas industry was listening and they’ve responded accordingly. When you told them who you were, they believed you.

...

he green warriors out there are probably tooting horns and throwing confetti into the air over the idea of the end of oil refineries in America. But when the reality of the coming liquid fuel shortage fully hits home, they will be singing a different tune. Renewable energy still only accounts for at most 13% of the power consumed in this country. We aren’t remotely close to being able to fully convert to electric vehicles, to say nothing of being able to recharge them all. And very nearly all of the food that you eat and the other products you purchase are brought to market in trucks and rail cars that use diesel to operate. There is a massive crisis on the way and everyone with the sense that God gave a goat is trying to warn you about it. And it’s a crisis of your own creation.
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Winterborn wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:52 pm Interesting that it is taking a recession (maybe/maybe not) for Mr. Wirth to speak up when it has been known since at least Obama if not before. At this point I am curious which breaks first, the strangling of fossil fuels or peoples ability to absorb high fuel prices. If high prices is what it takes for people (voters) to pay attention to the fact that what happens in DC has long term effects, then I hope prices keep going up and people wake up to the sham that is green energy currently. That sentiment aside, higher prices will help foster more money moving in the other direction (renewable energy storage) but I would argue that this "help" isn't needed and the true cost of that switch will be the people that can least afford it.

The title of this article may sound like some sort of alarmist doom porn from people who are warning about the downstream impacts of the green new deal, but it’s actually quite serious. The statement that there will probably never be another new oil refinery built in the United States came from Mike Wirth, the CEO of Chevron and a person who should know a thing or two about how the oil and gas industry works. We previously examined the reality that we are heading for devastating shortages of gasoline, diesel, and jet fuel because of the number of oil refineries that have gone offline or been converted to process biofuels. Ed Morrissey reported on Joe Biden’s demands that the “greedy refiners” move to “turn the refineries back on” and produce more fuel. Industry leaders responded with a letter explaining how ludicrous that demand was. Now, as the Institute for Energy Research explains, the reality is setting in that there probably won’t be any new refineries being constructed and it’s entirely the fault of the Democrats’ policies.

Chevron CEO Mike Wirth does not expect another oil refinery to be built in the United States ever again, due to federal government policies. The last significant refinery built in the United States was in 1976. (A small refinery came online in 2020 in North Dakota). Over the last two years, due to reduced demand from the pandemic and President Biden’s stated policy to reduce the demand for petroleum products, U.S. refineries have been shut down or repurposed to become biofuel refineries.

In a business where investments have a payout period of a decade or more, it is unlikely for investment to be spent on policies where the demand is to be reduced. Wirth stated rhetorically, “How do you go to your board, how do you go to your shareholders and say ‘we’re going to spend billions of dollars on new capacity in a market that is, you know, the policy is taking you in the other direction.”

This isn’t some idle threat or fit of pique on the part of the oil and gas industry. It’s just basic mathematics and economics. The Democrats, now led by Joe Biden, have been warning everyone for years that they were going to find a way to move the world away from the use of fossil fuels. Biden promised to “end fossil fuels” on the campaign trail and enacted policies moving in that direction starting on his first day in office. The oil and gas industry was listening and they’ve responded accordingly. When you told them who you were, they believed you.

...

he green warriors out there are probably tooting horns and throwing confetti into the air over the idea of the end of oil refineries in America. But when the reality of the coming liquid fuel shortage fully hits home, they will be singing a different tune. Renewable energy still only accounts for at most 13% of the power consumed in this country. We aren’t remotely close to being able to fully convert to electric vehicles, to say nothing of being able to recharge them all. And very nearly all of the food that you eat and the other products you purchase are brought to market in trucks and rail cars that use diesel to operate. There is a massive crisis on the way and everyone with the sense that God gave a goat is trying to warn you about it. And it’s a crisis of your own creation.
https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2022/06/20 ... ca-n477429
Environmentalists almost always have good intentions. However, good intentions don't always results in good outcomes. For instance, environmentalists trying to prevent nuclear energy from becoming more of a presence in the American electrical grid have inadvertently resulted in far more environmentally damaging technologies to be used over the past 3-4 decades. As for the above, the damage will be that we don't have plan B (renewable energy for the grid, electric vehicles for 100% of the vehicles being sold, and the expansion to the electrical grid to support this) ready by the time we've jettisoned Plan A (the current fossil fuel based electrical grid and transportation). We'd probably be ready in another 10 years or so as there is an avalanche of work being done on this, but we're not ready now. But politics being politics, that reality doesn't matter, we had to score political points now and we have what the Biden administration has wrought, which pretty much featured prominently on day 1 in office. We were never building more refineries, but that's been the case for decades, as the article mentioned. All we've done is unnecessarily sped up the need for Plan B. But like I said, people have already been pouring money into that, a government push isn't going to significantly improve the timing of when all of that becomes possible. And in the meantime, people without means and money will be the most impacted. Wonderful.
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GannonFan wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:33 pm
Winterborn wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:52 pm Interesting that it is taking a recession (maybe/maybe not) for Mr. Wirth to speak up when it has been known since at least Obama if not before. At this point I am curious which breaks first, the strangling of fossil fuels or peoples ability to absorb high fuel prices. If high prices is what it takes for people (voters) to pay attention to the fact that what happens in DC has long term effects, then I hope prices keep going up and people wake up to the sham that is green energy currently. That sentiment aside, higher prices will help foster more money moving in the other direction (renewable energy storage) but I would argue that this "help" isn't needed and the true cost of that switch will be the people that can least afford it.




https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2022/06/20 ... ca-n477429
Environmentalists almost always have good intentions. However, good intentions don't always results in good outcomes. For instance, environmentalists trying to prevent nuclear energy from becoming more of a presence in the American electrical grid have inadvertently resulted in far more environmentally damaging technologies to be used over the past 3-4 decades. As for the above, the damage will be that we don't have plan B (renewable energy for the grid, electric vehicles for 100% of the vehicles being sold, and the expansion to the electrical grid to support this) ready by the time we've jettisoned Plan A (the current fossil fuel based electrical grid and transportation). We'd probably be ready in another 10 years or so as there is an avalanche of work being done on this, but we're not ready now. But politics being politics, that reality doesn't matter, we had to score political points now and we have what the Biden administration has wrought, which pretty much featured prominently on day 1 in office. We were never building more refineries, but that's been the case for decades, as the article mentioned. All we've done is unnecessarily sped up the need for Plan B. But like I said, people have already been pouring money into that, a government push isn't going to significantly improve the timing of when all of that becomes possible. And in the meantime, people without means and money will be the most impacted. Wonderful.
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houndawg wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2022 3:53 pm
SDHornet wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 9:20 pm
The Biden Derangement Syndrome is strong here
Derangement, no, just having a good laugh at the failure that he is and all the dumbasses that voted for him. :nod: :lol:
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Clinton dynasty update. Why does anyone still listen to Summers?

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SDHornet wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:26 pm
houndawg wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2022 3:53 pm

The Biden Derangement Syndrome is strong here
Derangement, no, just having a good laugh at the failure that he is and all the dumbasses that voted for him. :nod: :lol:
Sideshow Bob.... you, while the rest of the country is in the Big Top watching the main event :nod:
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houndawg wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 6:18 am
SDHornet wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:26 pm

Derangement, no, just having a good laugh at the failure that he is and all the dumbasses that voted for him. :nod: :lol:
Sideshow Bob.... you, while the rest of the country is in the Big Top watching the main event :nod:
the democratic party LOVES morons like you. :nod: :nod: :nod:

You're the same dumbass that would have been standing in front of the snake oil salesman's traveling side show in the 1800's, just enraptured by his amazing presentation....
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AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 6:48 am
houndawg wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 6:18 am

Sideshow Bob.... you, while the rest of the country is in the Big Top watching the main event :nod:
the democratic party LOVES morons like you. :nod: :nod: :nod:

You're the same dumbass that would have been standing in front of the snake oil salesman's traveling side show in the 1800's, just enraptured by his amazing presentation....
The leadership of both parties love this…

It’s also one of the main reasons for the rise in right wing populism. Dems not delivering for and protecting the interests of the middle class.

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kalm wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 7:02 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 6:48 am

the democratic party LOVES morons like you. :nod: :nod: :nod:

You're the same dumbass that would have been standing in front of the snake oil salesman's traveling side show in the 1800's, just enraptured by his amazing presentation....
The leadership of both parties love this…

It’s also one of the main reasons for the rise in right wing populism. Dems not delivering for and protecting the interests of the middle class.

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Looks familiar. :coffee:

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houndawg wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 6:18 am
SDHornet wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:26 pm

Derangement, no, just having a good laugh at the failure that he is and all the dumbasses that voted for him. :nod: :lol:
Sideshow Bob.... you, while the rest of the country is in the Big Top watching the main event :nod:
That would be true if anyone was watching. :lol:

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Baldy wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 7:07 am
kalm wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 7:02 am

The leadership of both parties love this…

It’s also one of the main reasons for the rise in right wing populism. Dems not delivering for and protecting the interests of the middle class.

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Looks familiar. :coffee:

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I agree with both memes. You?
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He did it! Biden sets new record.
According to polling aggregate site 538, which has a hard-left bent on its editorial side, Biden is now the most unpopular president in recorded history at this point in his tenure. Just in his second year, he is more unpopular than any of his predecessors where polling data exists, stretching back nearly 90 years.
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 8:46 am He did it! Biden sets new record.
According to polling aggregate site 538, which has a hard-left bent on its editorial side, Biden is now the most unpopular president in recorded history at this point in his tenure. Just in his second year, he is more unpopular than any of his predecessors where polling data exists, stretching back nearly 90 years.
https://redstate.com/bonchie/2022/06/21 ... ry-n581842
He has a habit of breaking records...and not in a good way. :rofl: :rofl:

Highest gas prices EVER
Largest YOY fuel oil increase EVER
Lowest popularity EVER
...the list goes on and on... :lol: :lol: :lol: :dunce:
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AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:12 am
BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 8:46 am He did it! Biden sets new record.


https://redstate.com/bonchie/2022/06/21 ... ry-n581842
He has a habit of breaking records...and not in a good way. :rofl: :rofl:

Highest gas prices EVER
Largest YOY fuel oil increase EVER
Lowest popularity EVER
...the list goes on and on... :lol: :lol: :lol: :dunce:
Like what came up in the other thread, we should avoid Presidents from the Middle Atlantic States as Biden is now seriously threatening Buchanan for that bottom spot. We haven't elected a President from PA since Buchanan and we could very well be looking at another 200 years or so before we'd ever consider someone from DE again.
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kalm wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 7:34 am
Baldy wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 7:07 am
Looks familiar. :coffee:

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Your tired meme is a myth. Nobody ever said that wealth would trickle down.
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Baldy wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:07 am
kalm wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 7:34 am

I agree with both memes. You?
No.
Your tired meme is a myth. Nobody ever said that wealth would trickle down.
I know. Will Rogers coined it. So you agree that the intent of Reaganomics was to keep wealth at the top?

Refreshing!
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kalm wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:40 pm
Baldy wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:07 am
No.
Your tired meme is a myth. Nobody ever said that wealth would trickle down.
I know. Will Rogers coined it. So you agree that the intent of Reaganomics was to keep wealth at the top?

Refreshing!
And the intent of socialism is to keep everyone equally miserable. :D
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