Is our funding of the educational system in America done primarily or exclusively through the federal department???
Bullish or Bearish on America?
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Comparing the DOE budget to the DOD budget is only something someone clueless about education spending, such as yourself, would suggest . Newsflash, most education spending is at the local and state level.
Frankly, the graph for the DOE should be 0% of the budget of the DOD, as education is a local and state matter, not a federal one.
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That’s too difficult for him to grasp…
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Because the DoD budget is a jobs bill. The DoD is the nations largest employer. It's easy money to millions of people and hundreds of companies. The DOD budget is so bloated b/c even though we don't need tanks, we're still building them (Jobs Bill). The DoD Budget is so bloated that even though we have the F/35...each branch gets its own variant instead of a plane that pretty much does the same exact thing
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I think this proposal is worth a read and some consideration. Nothing is perfect but it's an interesting idea....
https://reason.org/policy-brief/student ... icymakers/
To address these problems, states should move away from antiquated education funding models by adopting student-centered funding, which has several key advantages.
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Ibanez wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:28 amOOH! OOH! MR. AZ!!! OOH! OOH! I KNOW THE ANSWER!!!!
Because the DoD budget is a jobs bill. The DoD is the nations largest employer. It's easy money to millions of people and hundreds of companies. The DOD budget is so bloated b/c even though we don't need tanks, we're still building them (Jobs Bill). The DoD Budget is so bloated that even though we have the F/35...each branch gets its own variant instead of a plane that pretty much does the same exact thingIt's so bloated b/c Politicians who vote against the DoD are 'Un-American" and aren't about to put themselves in a position to be seen as weak on defense / security. It's because there's a revolving door between the private sector and the Gov't.
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Half the answer. Half credit.Ibanez wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:28 amOOH! OOH! MR. AZ!!! OOH! OOH! I KNOW THE ANSWER!!!!
Because the DoD budget is a jobs bill. The DoD is the nations largest employer. It's easy money to millions of people and hundreds of companies. The DOD budget is so bloated b/c even though we don't need tanks, we're still building them (Jobs Bill). The DoD Budget is so bloated that even though we have the F/35...each branch gets its own variant instead of a plane that pretty much does the same exact thingIt's so bloated b/c Politicians who vote against the DoD are 'Un-American" and aren't about to put themselves in a position to be seen as weak on defense / security. It's because there's a revolving door between the private sector and the Gov't.
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What half did I forget to mention - us being the the worlds Policeman?AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 7:20 amHalf the answer. Half credit.Ibanez wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:28 am
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Because the DoD budget is a jobs bill. The DoD is the nations largest employer. It's easy money to millions of people and hundreds of companies. The DOD budget is so bloated b/c even though we don't need tanks, we're still building them (Jobs Bill). The DoD Budget is so bloated that even though we have the F/35...each branch gets its own variant instead of a plane that pretty much does the same exact thingIt's so bloated b/c Politicians who vote against the DoD are 'Un-American" and aren't about to put themselves in a position to be seen as weak on defense / security. It's because there's a revolving door between the private sector and the Gov't.
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Too late. You've already turned in the test.
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Don't start your car tonight, AZ.
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Same.Baldy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 22, 2021 6:53 amSkjellyfetti wrote: ↑Tue Jun 22, 2021 6:42 am It sounds like you're judging people on the Left based on their group identity and not valuing or respecting who they are as an individual.
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Isn't that basically the school choice model on a large scale? Dollars follow the student whichever school they choose? I'm not convinced that school choice like that, on a large scale, would be much better than what we have now.Ibanez wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:54 amI think this proposal is worth a read and some consideration. Nothing is perfect but it's an interesting idea....
https://reason.org/policy-brief/student ... icymakers/To address these problems, states should move away from antiquated education funding models by adopting student-centered funding, which has several key advantages.
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It is similiar. Like I said - not perfect but we can take what is working in some large and small states and customize it for SC or PA.GannonFan wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 7:53 amIsn't that basically the school choice model on a large scale? Dollars follow the student whichever school they choose? I'm not convinced that school choice like that, on a large scale, would be much better than what we have now.Ibanez wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:54 am
I think this proposal is worth a read and some consideration. Nothing is perfect but it's an interesting idea....
https://reason.org/policy-brief/student ... icymakers/
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I just wonder how you avoid the stratification of schools then - you're going to have the magnet schools be fantastic, and the rest of the schools are going to suffer. Best students and best teachers will gravitate towards the magnets. Maybe we need to be there and maybe this is the shift in education that's more like the rest of the world (test kids at or during high school, the best move on, the rest figure out something else to do), and maybe we need to rethink what is the value of college anyway (many jobs requiring a college education today really don't require a college education), but these are all pretty heady questions.
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Iowa already has funding based on enrollment and property wealth makes no difference. A property poor district gets the same dollars per student as a property rich district. This year the legislature gave some additional options to parents in shitty districts.Ibanez wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:54 amI think this proposal is worth a read and some consideration. Nothing is perfect but it's an interesting idea....
https://reason.org/policy-brief/student ... icymakers/To address these problems, states should move away from antiquated education funding models by adopting student-centered funding, which has several key advantages.
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same way AZ does it.HI54UNI wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:50 amIowa already has funding based on enrollment and property wealth makes no difference. A property poor district gets the same dollars per student as a property rich district. This year the legislature gave some additional options to parents in shitty districts.Ibanez wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:54 am
I think this proposal is worth a read and some consideration. Nothing is perfect but it's an interesting idea....
https://reason.org/policy-brief/student ... icymakers/
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This is the way.HI54UNI wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:50 amIowa already has funding based on enrollment and property wealth makes no difference. A property poor district gets the same dollars per student as a property rich district. This year the legislature gave some additional options to parents in shitty districts.Ibanez wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:54 am
I think this proposal is worth a read and some consideration. Nothing is perfect but it's an interesting idea....
https://reason.org/policy-brief/student ... icymakers/
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How do teacher contracts work in those instances? Do teachers state-wide get the same contract or are they contracted by the district?SDHornet wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:16 pmThis is the way.HI54UNI wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:50 am
Iowa already has funding based on enrollment and property wealth makes no difference. A property poor district gets the same dollars per student as a property rich district. This year the legislature gave some additional options to parents in shitty districts.
How are parent groups (like the PTA or Home and School groups) handled? At least where I live those are independent sources of funding and obviously richer places tend to get more of it.
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All teacher contracts are negotiated by each individual school district. So a school with a higher enrollment generally can afford to pay more because fixed/administrative costs can be spread over more kids which frees up dollars to pay teachers more. Money from PTA type groups is miscellaneous income that can go for extras but I don't know of any school district in the state that is getting massive amounts of money for things like operations. Most fundraising dollars go for athletics.GannonFan wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:44 pmHow do teacher contracts work in those instances? Do teachers state-wide get the same contract or are they contracted by the district?
How are parent groups (like the PTA or Home and School groups) handled? At least where I live those are independent sources of funding and obviously richer places tend to get more of it.
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Seems straight forward. Negotiations on a District by District would seem to benefit all involved.HI54UNI wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:01 pmAll teacher contracts are negotiated by each individual school district. So a school with a higher enrollment generally can afford to pay more because fixed/administrative costs can be spread over more kids which frees up dollars to pay teachers more. Money from PTA type groups is miscellaneous income that can go for extras but I don't know of any school district in the state that is getting massive amounts of money for things like operations. Most fundraising dollars go for athletics.GannonFan wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:44 pm
How do teacher contracts work in those instances? Do teachers state-wide get the same contract or are they contracted by the district?
How are parent groups (like the PTA or Home and School groups) handled? At least where I live those are independent sources of funding and obviously richer places tend to get more of it.
On a somewhat related note:
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Hey SD, It hasn't been said yet but quoting a "tweet" isn't a legitimate source and a laughable way to make a point. You do it like it's proof of something. If you want to make a point, use a legitimate source so we can check the validity of the information. Otherwise, it's just repeating what someone else said.SDHornet wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:38 pmSeems straight forward. Negotiations on a District by District would seem to benefit all involved.HI54UNI wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:01 pm
All teacher contracts are negotiated by each individual school district. So a school with a higher enrollment generally can afford to pay more because fixed/administrative costs can be spread over more kids which frees up dollars to pay teachers more. Money from PTA type groups is miscellaneous income that can go for extras but I don't know of any school district in the state that is getting massive amounts of money for things like operations. Most fundraising dollars go for athletics.
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So, basically, just like the media.bobbythekidd wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:48 pmHey SD, It hasn't been said yet but quoting a "tweet" isn't a legitimate source and a laughable way to make a point. You do it like it's proof of something. If you want to make a point, use a legitimate source so we can check the validity of the information. Otherwise, it's just repeating what someone else said.
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FIFY.AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:53 pmSo, basically, just like much of the media.bobbythekidd wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:48 pm
Hey SD, It hasn't been said yet but quoting a "tweet" isn't a legitimate source and a laughable way to make a point. You do it like it's proof of something. If you want to make a point, use a legitimate source so we can check the validity of the information. Otherwise, it's just repeating what someone else said.