Israel-Palestine Drama Thread

[Pwns]

Fvcking animals.

[BDKJMU]

Holy shit. This is already bad, but you know the retaliation is going to be insane.

Its just starting..

[BDKJMU]

Not sure if it's just bullshit, and I highly doubt we'll get the truth, but it's being said Hamas has weaponry that was sent to Ukraine.

Is Hamas Using Weapons the US Left Behind in Afghanistan in its War Against Israel?

….The Israeli commander with whom Newsweek spoke said some of the U.S. small arms seized in Afghanistan have already been observed in the hands of Palestinian groups operating in the Gaza Strip……

https://redstate.com/jeffc/2023/10/07/d ... n-n2164802

[UNI88]

Wait, are we talking about AnTiFa? Or MAGAt yahoos? They have so many similarities.


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Drop the drug dealer part and we have a match!

Done!

AnTiFa and MAGAt yahoos are anti government and terroristic.

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[kalm]

No. I’m pretty sure Antifa is on the left side of the spectrum.

But they’re violent and antigovernment.

Why does the squat love the Palestinian cause if they’re conks?

I won’t defend their ideological inconsistencies but to even suggest Israel could do better gets calls of anti-semitism. AOC at least appears to be condemning violence perpetrated by both sides.

"Today is devastating for all those seeking a lasting peace and respect for human rights in Israel and Palestine," Ocasio-Cortez wrote in a statement Saturday. "I condemn Hamas' attack in the strongest possible terms.

"No child and family should ever endure this kind of violence and fear, and this violence will not solve the ongoing oppression and occupation in the region."

[kalm]

When you’re outgunned, you play a geo-political game, sacrificing innocents, to remain at the table I guess.

Even as the Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu announced that Israel was at war with Hamas and the other Gaza factions, it is important to understand what Hamas’s military aims did not include. Hamas fights its periodic conflicts for political reasons, to shore up support in Gaza and elsewhere and to ensure its continuing relevance.

Hamas’s military leadership is aware of its own capabilities. Taking and holding ground in Israel is far beyond its reach. As the kidnapping and killing of Israeli civilians makes clear, this is an operation that was designed both to terrorise and to have as wide an international audience as possible.

And while the proximate causes of Israeli-Palestinian violence are always urgent and important, not least decades of occupation, what appears key to the timing of this assault is the wider context in the region, not least the ongoing US-brokered normalisation between Israel and Saudi Arabia that has been gathering pace recently.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ ... tid=Zxz2cZ

[UNI88]

But they’re violent and antigovernment.

Why does the squat love the Palestinian cause if they’re conks?

I won’t defend their ideological inconsistencies but to even suggest Israel could do better gets calls of anti-semitism. AOC at least appears to be condemning violence perpetrated by both sides.

"Today is devastating for all those seeking a lasting peace and respect for human rights in Israel and Palestine," Ocasio-Cortez wrote in a statement Saturday. "I condemn Hamas' attack in the strongest possible terms.

"No child and family should ever endure this kind of violence and fear, and this violence will not solve the ongoing oppression and occupation in the region."

Israel deserves some criticism. As I've posted, they're 40-60% responsible for what's going on. I take exception with the zealots who want to put 100% (or 0%) of the blame on Israel.

AOChe and the squat are silent over the atrocities committed by the Maduro regime against its own people. They're partisan hypocrites pushing their partisan agenda while pretending to care.

[kalm]

I won’t defend their ideological inconsistencies but to even suggest Israel could do better gets calls of anti-semitism. AOC at least appears to be condemning violence perpetrated by both sides.

"Today is devastating for all those seeking a lasting peace and respect for human rights in Israel and Palestine," Ocasio-Cortez wrote in a statement Saturday. "I condemn Hamas' attack in the strongest possible terms.

"No child and family should ever endure this kind of violence and fear, and this violence will not solve the ongoing oppression and occupation in the region."

Israel deserves some criticism. As I've posted, they're 40-60% responsible for what's going on. I take exception with the zealots who want to put 100% (or 0%) of the blame on Israel.

AOChe and the squat are silent over the atrocities committed by the Maduro regime against its own people. They're partisan hypocrites pushing their partisan agenda while pretending to care.

Fair and ironic considering my D1B statement regarding conks.

Loads of hypocrisy out there as well as fealty to ideologies.

AOC doesn’t condemn a socialist? Shocking!

MAGA is pro Russia? Equally shocking!

[UNI88]

Israel deserves some criticism. As I've posted, they're 40-60% responsible for what's going on. I take exception with the zealots who want to put 100% (or 0%) of the blame on Israel.

AOChe and the squat are silent over the atrocities committed by the Maduro regime against its own people. They're partisan hypocrites pushing their partisan agenda while pretending to care.

Fair and ironic considering my D1B statement regarding conks.

Loads of hypocrisy out there as well as fealty to ideologies.

AOC doesn’t condemn a socialist? Shocking!

MAGA is pro Russia? Equally shocking!

Why is MAGAt pro russia?

Don't tell me it's because conservatives like strongmen bullies. Historically conservatives have been opposed to nations that are rivals/adversaries like russia and china and many of them have been led by strongmen bullies like Stalin and Mao.

I think it's because trump has hijacked the conservative cause and he looks out for what is best for him and his crime family. He sees the potential to profit from his relationship with russia and putin so he puts American interests aside and pursues what is best for him. His MAGAt yahoo worshippers dutifully follow. MAGAt yahoos are not pro-America, they're pro-trump.

[kalm]

Fair and ironic considering my D1B statement regarding conks.

Loads of hypocrisy out there as well as fealty to ideologies.

AOC doesn’t condemn a socialist? Shocking!

MAGA is pro Russia? Equally shocking!

Why is MAGAt pro russia?

Don't tell me it's because conservatives like strongmen bullies. Historically conservatives have been opposed to nations that are rivals/adversaries like russia and china and many of them have been led by strongmen bullies like Stalin and Mao.

I think it's because trump has hijacked the conservative cause and he looks out for what is best for him and his crime family. He sees the potential to profit from his relationship with russia and putin so he puts American interests aside and pursues what is best for him. His MAGAt yahoo worshippers dutifully follow. MAGAt yahoos are not pro-America, they're pro-trump.

Conservative also means reluctance to change, honoring traditional power structures, monarchy, patriarchal, etc. Strongman theory is every bit as present on the right as it is on the left. See Hitler, Mussolini, Putin, Orban (Tucker’s and CPAC’s buddy).

I’m guessing the American revolutionaries were on the liberal - left side of history whereas the loyalists were conservative, traditional/monarchical right.

I agree with you it’s less prevalent in the U.S. thanks to constitutional freedoms and democracy.

[SeattleGriz]

I won’t defend their ideological inconsistencies but to even suggest Israel could do better gets calls of anti-semitism. AOC at least appears to be condemning violence perpetrated by both sides.

"Today is devastating for all those seeking a lasting peace and respect for human rights in Israel and Palestine," Ocasio-Cortez wrote in a statement Saturday. "I condemn Hamas' attack in the strongest possible terms.

"No child and family should ever endure this kind of violence and fear, and this violence will not solve the ongoing oppression and occupation in the region."

Israel deserves some criticism. As I've posted, they're 40-60% responsible for what's going on. I take exception with the zealots who want to put 100% (or 0%) of the blame on Israel.

AOChe and the squat are silent over the atrocities committed by the Maduro regime against its own people. They're partisan hypocrites pushing their partisan agenda while pretending to care.

Interesting considering you think Putin is 100% to blame over Ukraine.

For what it's worth, I do not believe Israel is NOT 100% blame free here as well. Couldn't guess the %, but after quantifying how bad W media lies, I can see some blame on Israel.

[BDKJMU]

Fair and ironic considering my D1B statement regarding conks.

Loads of hypocrisy out there as well as fealty to ideologies.

AOC doesn’t condemn a socialist? Shocking!

MAGA is pro Russia? Equally shocking!

Why is MAGAt pro russia?

Don't tell me it's because conservatives like strongmen bullies. Historically conservatives have been opposed to nations that are rivals/adversaries like russia and china and many of them have been led by strongmen bullies like Stalin and Mao.

I think it's because trump has hijacked the conservative cause and he looks out for what is best for him and his crime family. He sees the potential to profit from his relationship with russia and putin so he puts American interests aside and pursues what is best for him. His MAGAt yahoo worshippers dutifully follow. MAGAt yahoos are not pro-America, they're pro-trump.

Nope- pro Trump and pro America. To the contrary anyone who puts defending defending Ukraine’s border above defending America’s (virtually the entire democrat party and a chunk of the republican) isn’t pro America.

[BDKJMU]

Hezobollah now attacking Israel from the north. Ihttps://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/oct/8 ... cket_saves

[BDKJMU]

Fvcking animals.

Yep. Fooking goatherders.
https://news.yahoo.com/naked-israeli-wo ... 53028.html

[BDKJMU]

Well this has escalated quickly.

Antony Blinken: U.S. is working to verify reports Americans are among the dead in Israel and being held hostage by Hamas
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/rcna119371

Meanwhile Biden’s mumbling through an address to the nation yesterday was certainly reassuring..

[BDKJMU]

From music festival where reportedly at least 260 dead.

[SeattleGriz]

Can see it now. US needs to go to war footing. Neocons strike again and their military industrial complex masters will be pleased with all the new orders for equipment.

[UNI88]

Why is MAGAt pro russia?

Don't tell me it's because conservatives like strongmen bullies. Historically conservatives have been opposed to nations that are rivals/adversaries like russia and china and many of them have been led by strongmen bullies like Stalin and Mao.

I think it's because trump has hijacked the conservative cause and he looks out for what is best for him and his crime family. He sees the potential to profit from his relationship with russia and putin so he puts American interests aside and pursues what is best for him. His MAGAt yahoo worshippers dutifully follow. MAGAt yahoos are not pro-America, they're pro-trump.

Conservative also means reluctance to change, honoring traditional power structures, monarchy, patriarchal, etc. Strongman theory is every bit as present on the right as it is on the left. See Hitler, Mussolini, Putin, Orban (Tucker’s and CPAC’s buddy).

I’m guessing the American revolutionaries were on the liberal - left side of history whereas the loyalists were conservative, traditional/monarchical right.

I agree with you it’s less prevalent in the U.S. thanks to constitutional freedoms and democracy.

No sh!t that there are right wing strongmen. I was just poking holes in your attempts to paint it as mostly a conservative trait.

And liberal also means open minded and respectful of other perspectives. Two things that helped the revolutionaries lay the foundation for this great country and that are sorely missing in today’s illiberal left.

[Caribbean Hen]

Conservative also means reluctance to change, honoring traditional power structures, monarchy, patriarchal, etc. Strongman theory is every bit as present on the right as it is on the left. See Hitler, Mussolini, Putin, Orban (Tucker’s and CPAC’s buddy).

I’m guessing the American revolutionaries were on the liberal - left side of history whereas the loyalists were conservative, traditional/monarchical right.

I agree with you it’s less prevalent in the U.S. thanks to constitutional freedoms and democracy.

No sh!t that there are right wing strongmen. I was just poking holes in your attempts to paint it as mostly a conservative trait.

And liberal also means open minded and respectful of other perspectives. Two things that helped the revolutionaries lay the foundation for this great country and that are sorely missing in today’s illiberal left.

The founding fathers would be sickened if they were able to look at this country today, eventually people will start leaving the US again for being persecuted for their believes and being taxed to death to pay for disastrous liberal policies… NY state has a real problem
Eventually the entire country will be gerrymandered for people to escape the urban mindset (crime is fine, no accountability, free money and on the nonsense goes) that’s spreading, kind of like what’s happening in Oregon.

[UNI88]

No sh!t that there are right wing strongmen. I was just poking holes in your attempts to paint it as mostly a conservative trait.

And liberal also means open minded and respectful of other perspectives. Two things that helped the revolutionaries lay the foundation for this great country and that are sorely missing in today’s illiberal left.

The founding fathers would be sickened if they were able to look at this country today, eventually people will start leaving the US again for being persecuted for their believes and being taxed to death to pay for disastrous liberal policies… NY state has a real problem
Eventually the entire country will be gerrymandered for people to escape the urban mindset (crime is fine, no accountability, free money and on the nonsense goes) that’s spreading, kind of like what’s happening in Oregon.

What's happening in Oregon?

[dal4018]

Fvcking animals.

Israel is the real criminal and everyone has known that since the '40s Winston Churchill got the ball rolling in '37 making a statement in front of The Palestinian Royal Commission saying that he was going to drop all these European Jews on their own doorstep and leave them there.And now they act like that land belongs to them.

[houndawg]

Fair and ironic considering my D1B statement regarding conks.

Loads of hypocrisy out there as well as fealty to ideologies.

AOC doesn’t condemn a socialist? Shocking!

MAGA is pro Russia? Equally shocking!

Why is MAGAt pro russia?

Don't tell me it's because conservatives like strongmen bullies. Historically conservatives have been opposed to nations that are rivals/adversaries like russia and china and many of them have been led by strongmen bullies like Stalin and Mao.

I think it's because trump has hijacked the conservative cause and he looks out for what is best for him and his crime family. He sees the potential to profit from his relationship with russia and putin so he puts American interests aside and pursues what is best for him. His MAGAt yahoo worshippers dutifully follow. MAGAt yahoos are not pro-America, they're pro-trump.

Russians being white has a lot to do with it. Notice how they're always bleeding through about "socialism"? Except when talking about Russia?

Unlike so many snot-noses here I'm old enough to remember when Republicans were all about standing firm in supporting our democtatic allies against the godless communists; at the beginning of the space race many of them were even convinced that the Russians were controlling the weather. Later on while serving in the Army the official line was that Ivan was 10 ft. tall and bulletproof. This all changed as the NRA began to accept Russian money come under Russian control through the VP of the NRA's KGB "girlfriend". I believe at one point they were getting $30,000,000/year - enough that Wayne "Lucky" Pierre could take private aviation across the country to go clothes shopping in Beverly Hills - which in and of itself speaks volumes about the NRA.

[houndawg]

Fvcking animals.

Israel is the real criminal and everyone has known that since the '40s Winston Churchill got the ball rolling in '37 making a statement in front of The Palestinian Royal Commission saying that he was going to drop all these European Jews on their own doorstep and leave them there.And now they act like that land belongs to them.

Palestinians I've talked to always made a distiction between ashkenazi and sephardic jews.

[kalm]

As I stated before…there are no winners here. Hamas for its terrorism, Netanyahu for his leadership.

[Baldy]

Fvcking animals.

Israel is the real criminal and everyone has known that since the '40s Winston Churchill got the ball rolling in '37 making a statement in front of The Palestinian Royal Commission saying that he was going to drop all these European Jews on their own doorstep and leave them there.And now they act like that land belongs to them.

Hey everybody, I found the anti-semite.