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GannonFan wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:34 pm
UNI88 wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:49 pm

Fetterman charts a different path, breaks with fellow Democrats in the Senate

This is refreshing.

What's the perception of Fetterman in Pennsylvania?
He's looking better. He didn't come across as anything other than an empty hoodie when he ran for office. He hadn't done anything noteworthy as the Lt Governor before this and didn't seem all that bright. Considering the other senator is Casey and other than sharing a last name with his much beloved father, Fetterman looked like another dutiful party member doing whatever he was told. Refreshingly, he seems to think independently from the hive mind that is party politics (both sides are heavy with that). His take on this issue is spot on - it's a little more complicated that just accusing the Israelis of genocide so as to avoid protestors dumping manure at your house.
Seems like he's a natural for a US Senator. :coffee:
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The IDF is a terrorist organization, Netanyahu is their leader, and we arm and fund them.

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kalm wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 7:02 am World Central Kitchen founder and chef Jose Andres was interviewed by Maron last year. Fantastic organization diving head first into harm’s way to feed the hungry.

Fuck the IDF and fuck Bibbi.

We’re you saying ‘Fuck the US Air Force and fuck Biden’ when an entire innocent Afghan family was droned in Biden’s botched Afghan withdrawal?
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 7:52 am
kalm wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 7:02 am World Central Kitchen founder and chef Jose Andres was interviewed by Maron last year. Fantastic organization diving head first into harm’s way to feed the hungry.

Fuck the IDF and fuck Bibbi.

We’re you saying ‘Fuck the US Air Force and fuck Biden’ when an entire innocent Afghan family was droned in Biden’s botched Afghan withdrawal?
Don’t recall. Any taking of innocent life is wrong. The numbers here are far greater.
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kalm wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 7:56 am
BDKJMU wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 7:52 am
We’re you saying ‘Fuck the US Air Force and fuck Biden’ when an entire innocent Afghan family was droned in Biden’s botched Afghan withdrawal?
Don’t recall. Any taking of innocent life is wrong. The numbers here are far greater.
Like I thought. Selective outrage.
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 8:35 am
kalm wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 7:56 am

Don’t recall. Any taking of innocent life is wrong. The numbers here are far greater.
Like I thought. Selective outrage.
I don’t recall if I made a comment on here. You can’t argue the false equivalency which itself is selective partisanship.

At least I have a sense of right and wrong based on humanity, kindness, and peace. You…base right and wrong on political association. Sad.
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kalm wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 9:15 am
BDKJMU wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 8:35 am
Like I thought. Selective outrage.
I don’t recall if I made a comment on here. You can’t argue the false equivalency which itself is selective partisanship.

At least I have a sense of right and wrong based on humanity, kindness, and peace. You…base right and wrong on political association. Sad.
BS false equivalency. The Afghan case was a case of fucked up intel. Should there have been better verification? Probably so. Fog of war, but probably should have been a career ender for some high ranking officers (I don’t know if anyone was reprimanded, had careers ended).

Obviously this Gaza incident was intentionally targetint, but you are just blanket accepting the ‘they knew it was aid workers’ narrative. Neither you nor I know what the drone operators knew at the time. They could have thought it was Hamas (who’s SOP is to hide among civilians) then that would explain the intentional targeting with multiple passes until they killed as many as they could.
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:39 pm
kalm wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 9:15 am

I don’t recall if I made a comment on here. You can’t argue the false equivalency which itself is selective partisanship.

At least I have a sense of right and wrong based on humanity, kindness, and peace. You…base right and wrong on political association. Sad.
BS false equivalency. The Afghan case was a case of fucked up intel. Should there have been better verification? Probably so. Fog of war, but probably should have been a career ender for some high ranking officers (I don’t know if anyone was reprimanded, had careers ended).

Obviously this Gaza incident was intentionally targetint, but you are just blanket accepting the ‘they knew it was aid workers’ narrative. Neither you nor I know what the drone operators knew at the time. They could have thought it was Hamas (who’s SOP is to hide among civilians) then that would explain the intentional targeting with multiple passes until they killed as many as they could.

‘False equivalency bs. Now… let me show you some the ways it’s a false equivalency.’ :lol:
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AMEN!
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Retired US Army Col gives synopsis of what happened (with maps) from what has been released so far. A giant fog of war with numerous fuck ups: A failure of different IDF entities to coordinate, failure of IDF and the WCK convoy (aid organization) to maintain comms, and a failure of the WCK convoy to maintain comms with the WCK HQ. The whole way this thing (aid delivery in the middle of a war) was set up was an incident like this waiting to happen.

IDF Preliminary Investigation in Aid Worker Deaths Shows a Cascade of Errors and Confusion
https://redstate.com/streiff/2024/04/05 ... n-n2172380
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BDKJMU wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2024 5:09 am Retired US Army Col gives synopsis of what happened (with maps) from what has been released so far. A giant fog of war with numerous fuck ups: A failure of different IDF entities to coordinate, failure of IDF and the WCK convoy (aid organization) to maintain comms, and a failure of the WCK convoy to maintain comms with the WCK HQ. The whole way this thing (aid delivery in the middle of a war) was set up was an incident like this waiting to happen.

IDF Preliminary Investigation in Aid Worker Deaths Shows a Cascade of Errors and Confusion
https://redstate.com/streiff/2024/04/05 ... n-n2172380
The IDF is not a trustworthy source on this.

True on delivery in a war zone, but Israel is still responsible.
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kalm wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 9:15 am
BDKJMU wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 8:35 am
Like I thought. Selective outrage.
I don’t recall if I made a comment on here. You can’t argue the false equivalency which itself is selective partisanship.

At least I have a sense of right and wrong based on humanity, kindness, and peace. You…base right and wrong on political association. Sad.
:lol:

Ok Hunter
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:52 am
kalm wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 9:15 am

I don’t recall if I made a comment on here. You can’t argue the false equivalency which itself is selective partisanship.

At least I have a sense of right and wrong based on humanity, kindness, and peace. You…base right and wrong on political association. Sad.
:lol:

Ok Hunter

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kalm wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2024 5:21 am
BDKJMU wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2024 5:09 am Retired US Army Col gives synopsis of what happened (with maps) from what has been released so far. A giant fog of war with numerous fuck ups: A failure of different IDF entities to coordinate, failure of IDF and the WCK convoy (aid organization) to maintain comms, and a failure of the WCK convoy to maintain comms with the WCK HQ. The whole way this thing (aid delivery in the middle of a war) was set up was an incident like this waiting to happen.

IDF Preliminary Investigation in Aid Worker Deaths Shows a Cascade of Errors and Confusion
https://redstate.com/streiff/2024/04/05 ... n-n2172380
The IDF is not a trustworthy source on this.

True on delivery in a war zone, but Israel is still responsible.
Huh?

You have consistently proven yourself as not trust worthy with all your fake videos and taking things out of context
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:18 pm
kalm wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2024 5:21 am

The IDF is not a trustworthy source on this.

True on delivery in a war zone, but Israel is still responsible.
Huh?

You have consistently proven yourself as not trust worthy with all your fake videos and taking things out of context
Then simply keep scrolling. Remain in the dark.
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kalm wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:21 pm
Caribbean Hen wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:18 pm

Huh?

You have consistently proven yourself as not trust worthy with all your fake videos and taking things out of context
Then simply keep scrolling. Remain in the dark.
Keep scrolling? Why

I need never said your feeble attempts to defend the indefensible weren’t entertaining, just have to take em for what they’re worth…. A Venezuelan Bolivar
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 6:17 am
kalm wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:21 pm

Then simply keep scrolling. Remain in the dark.
Keep scrolling? Why
You run the risk of having your narratives destroyed by some facts and truth. I’d almost feel bad.
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kalm wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 7:11 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 6:17 am

Keep scrolling? Why
You run the risk of having your narratives destroyed by some facts and truth. I’d almost feel bad.
Nah
All you do on here is post Twitter trolls

Maybe a decade ago you had some original material on here, but apparently you’ve used up everything you had
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 8:15 am
kalm wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 7:11 am

You run the risk of having your narratives destroyed by some facts and truth. I’d almost feel bad.
Nah
All you do on here is post Twitter trolls

Maybe a decade ago you had some original material on here, but apparently you’ve used up everything you had
I’m just a modern day town crier.

I’m not sure you even aware what a troll or Twitter is. :lol:
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 6:17 am
kalm wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:21 pm

Then simply keep scrolling. Remain in the dark.
Keep scrolling? Why

I need never said your feeble attempts to defend the indefensible weren’t entertaining, just have to take em for what they’re worth…. A Venezuelan Bolivar
Venezuelan Bolivar? Bolivar was from Venezuela so that's repetitive and kind of like saying "American Washington".
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UNI88 wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:14 pm
Caribbean Hen wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 6:17 am

Keep scrolling? Why

I need never said your feeble attempts to defend the indefensible weren’t entertaining, just have to take em for what they’re worth…. A Venezuelan Bolivar
Venezuelan Bolivar? Bolivar was from Venezuela so that's repetitive and kind of like saying "American Washington".
:lol:

Good catch.


And is Bolivar an insult?
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kalm wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:37 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:14 pm
Venezuelan Bolivar? Bolivar was from Venezuela so that's repetitive and kind of like saying "American Washington".
:lol:

Good catch.

And is Bolivar an insult?
In the same way that being compared to George Washinton is an insult.
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kalm wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:37 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:14 pm

Venezuelan Bolivar? Bolivar was from Venezuela so that's repetitive and kind of like saying "American Washington".
:lol:

Good catch.


And is Bolivar an insult?
Oh my you guys are both dim bulbs

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Caribbean Hen wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 5:55 pm
kalm wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:37 pm

:lol:

Good catch.


And is Bolivar an insult?
Oh my you guys are both dim bulbs

The bolívar [boˈliβaɾ] is the official currency of Venezuela.
Oh. Well darn. I figured it was worth at least 3 bolivars.
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