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JohnStOnge wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:41 pm
UNI88 wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:32 pm
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If that means you're being told you have to pay to see the content I can only say that I just Googled it and it didn't say that to me.

Here is the text of the article:
John, I'm pretty sure posting an entire article is a TOS violation. Please delete this post.

CID's kicking your azz, might be time to put down the shovel on this one.
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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:44 pm
JohnStOnge wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:35 pm

Here's one take on why the new law will hit Black voters: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/25/us/p ... oters.html

Frankly I think the Republican Party continues to slit its own throat with respect to the long term. They're doing stuff like this to try to reduce Black voting and it may help them in 2023. But non Whites can see what is going on. And non Whites continue to increase as a proportion of the population both nationally and in Georgia.
Keep on posting fake news JSO.
NYT Lie #1
making it a crime to provide food or water to people waiting in line to vote.
FACT: Like the countless other states that have very specific laws against electioneering near polling places, Georgia has codified rules preventing political groups from handing out food or water to voters in line as an incentive to vote, but specifically allows poll workers to make water available to anyone who wants it. The law will also directly cut down wait times, meaning refreshment for people waiting in line will be less necessary.
https://redstate.com/sister-toldjah/202 ... et-n353906
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2 ... ways-vote/

I'd looked into it. It's true. You and other conservatives need to stop relying on questionable sources such as redstate.com.
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Re: Take Your Ball and Go Home, Georgia

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CID1990 wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:54 pm
Winterborn wrote:
x3 :coffee:

I am curious how many posters commenting here have even read the entire bill?
I read it after all the hoopla

Good thing I got that reading in before the Capital attack today... because I’ve been busy watching half my Shitebook friends delete or modify their initial posts today. Not much time for reading state bills

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I haven't read it yet.

Let me guess on the Shitebook posts - it started with white men and guns and then deletions/modifications and then shifted to let's not glamourize the shooter and focus on the victim.
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CID1990 wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:58 pm
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You know there is a lot more to it than that. Yes, the intro talks about what Democrats and voting rights groups say." But there is nothing in the content of the article to suggest that it is based on what Democrats and voting rights groups say.

There is a statement about making it illegal to provide water associated with a statement that long lines are common in Black neighborhoods.

Give it up man. This law is CLEARLY designed to try to cut down on Black voting. It is what it is.
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Electioneering within 150 or so feet from polling places is illegal in nearly every state

The whole water thing closes a loophole that was being exploited. AND the GA law requires polling places to provide water within those areas

AND - you are parsing out what the NYT actually wrote much in the same way a Trumper parses Trump’s tweets

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The Georgia law makes it illegal to hand out water within 25 feet of anybody standing in line; not just within 150 feet of a polling place.

See the whole Politifact discussion linked above.
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Re: Take Your Ball and Go Home, Georgia

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UNI88 wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:06 pm
JohnStOnge wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:41 pm

If that means you're being told you have to pay to see the content I can only say that I just Googled it and it didn't say that to me.

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John, I'm pretty sure posting an entire article is a TOS violation. Please delete this post.

CID's kicking your azz, might be time to put down the shovel on this one.
No he's not. He's completely whiffing. You just haven't realized that yet.
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JohnStOnge wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:07 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:44 pm
Keep on posting fake news JSO.
NYT Lie #1



https://redstate.com/sister-toldjah/202 ... et-n353906
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2 ... ways-vote/

I'd looked into it. It's true. You and other conservatives need to stop relying on questionable sources such as redstate.com.
It's not true- poll workers can continue to give out water- 100% legal, no prohibition. It clarifies that people politicking can't. You TDSers need to stop relying on questionable sources such the MSM...
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Re: Take Your Ball and Go Home, Georgia

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JohnStOnge wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:11 pm
UNI88 wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:06 pm
John, I'm pretty sure posting an entire article is a TOS violation. Please delete this post.

CID's kicking your azz, might be time to put down the shovel on this one.
No he's not. He's completely whiffing. You just haven't realized that yet.
CID tries to look at things objectively while you're a partisan hack who looks for information that supports his existing point of view.

I rarely disagree with CID for a reason - I don't want his bootprint on my azz.
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UNI88 wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:06 pm
JohnStOnge wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:41 pm

If that means you're being told you have to pay to see the content I can only say that I just Googled it and it didn't say that to me.

Here is the text of the article:
John, I'm pretty sure posting an entire article is a TOS violation. Please delete this post.

CID's kicking your azz, might be time to put down the shovel on this one.
And, BTW, we don't even know if the things he is asserting (which do not really make his case) are accurate. For instance, we don't know that most States prohibit handing out water within 150 feet of polling places because he just asserted it without providing any support for the assertion. Could be true. And if it is true it doesn't change the fact that, for instance, the Georgia law also prohibits handing it out within 25 feet of anybody in line. But we don't know it's true.

Another thing about a "most states" argument: Most states have Republican legislatures (see https://ballotpedia.org/Partisan_compos ... gislatures). The fact that most states have a particular election law restriction does not, on its own, infer that the restriction is not in place to repress minority turnout.
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JohnStOnge wrote:
UNI88 wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:06 pm John, I'm pretty sure posting an entire article is a TOS violation. Please delete this post.

CID's kicking your azz, might be time to put down the shovel on this one.
And, BTW, we don't even know if the things he is asserting (which do not really make his case) are accurate. For instance, we don't know that most States prohibit handing out water within 150 feet of polling places because he just asserted it without providing any support for the assertion. Could be true. And it it is true it doesn't change the fact that, for instance, the Georgia law also prohibits handing it out within 25 feet of anybody in line. But we don't know it's true.
This is why you fail, StWronge

You cannot read critically of accurately

I never once said that most states have laws prohibiting handing out water within 150 feet of polling places

Besides, black people are smarter than white people when it comes to coming prepared. STOP infantilizing black people. It is bigoted and wronge.


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CID1990 wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:54 pm
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x3 :coffee:

I am curious how many posters commenting here have even read the entire bill?
I read it after all the hoopla

Good thing I got that reading in before the Capital attack today... because I’ve been busy watching half my Shitebook friends delete or modify their initial posts today. Not much time for reading state bills


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Same. Those blasted committees really do a wonder on a bill before it finally gets voted on and codified. Though it is interesting to see some of the changes that happen though the process but unfortunately my time for that these days has been extremely limited.

Social media is a pox. Why anybody would comment on current events through it boggles my mind. To many events or timelines change as more information comes out that make most initial commenters look like fools.
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UNI88 wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:09 pm
CID1990 wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:54 pm
I read it after all the hoopla

Good thing I got that reading in before the Capital attack today... because I’ve been busy watching half my Shitebook friends delete or modify their initial posts today. Not much time for reading state bills

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I haven't read it yet.

Let me guess on the Shitebook posts - it started with white men and guns and then deletions/modifications and then shifted to let's not glamourize the shooter and focus on the victim.
Here you go. All 95 pages of it. :thumb:

https://www.legis.ga.gov/api/legislatio ... 022/201121
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UNI88 wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:34 pm
CID1990 wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:19 pm Maybe klam can tell us what about the GA law triggers him

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I'd like to hear about that as well.

It would also be good to explain why what Georgia is doing is so egregious but how it might be ok to have similar requirements & restrictions for proof of vaccination.
I would like to hear how triggered I am. 2016 called, it wants it’s sick liberal burn back. :lol:

Haven’t kept up on the push for vaccine papers please from state governments yet.
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kalm wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:29 pm MLB pulling the All Star Game from Atlanta over Georgia’s new election laws. Pressure also coming from Delta, Coke, and Hollywood.

Consequences. :nod:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... 7VSDekYaWQ
The main consequence for poor Stacey is the likelihood of Brian Kemp being reelected just went up substantially.

At least you were smart to go back into your shell when CID called you out. However, seeing JSO step all over his dick while taking another beating is never not funny. :lol:
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UNI88 wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:06 pm
JohnStOnge wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:41 pm

If that means you're being told you have to pay to see the content I can only say that I just Googled it and it didn't say that to me.

Here is the text of the article:
John, I'm pretty sure posting an entire article is a TOS violation. Please delete this post.

CID's kicking your azz, might be time to put down the shovel on this one.
Also a good way to get sued by certain shady lawyers....
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JohnStOnge wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:35 pm
CID1990 wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:19 pm Maybe klam can tell us what about the GA law triggers him


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Here's one take on why the new law will hit Black voters: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/25/us/p ... oters.html

Frankly I think the Republican Party continues to slit its own throat with respect to the long term. They're doing stuff like this to try to reduce Black voting and it may help them in 2023. But non Whites can see what is going on. And non Whites continue to increase as a proportion of the population both nationally and in Georgia.
Nice article except it didn't provide one single example on how this new law will make voting more difficult for minority voters. :?
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JohnStOnge wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:42 pm Can you just imagine a situation in which a Republican controlled State government asserts that the Fulton County election board is "struggling" so the State needs to take over and decide which votes are counted and which are not?
Please point me to the part in the bill that states that a "Republican controlled State government" can assert that any county is struggling and take over and decide which votes are counted?

Lemme help you out here....you can't.

What the law actually states is that the Georgia State Election Board...the BIPARTISAN Georgia State Election Board can step in when a county fails its voters by allowing long lines, not fulfilling absentee ballot requests, not counting votes accurately, lose ballots, etc. The county can only be "taken over" after investigations have been conducted, and a hearing has been held. The county can even appeal the decision to superior court if it chooses (i.e. due process).

Do yourself a favor and just shut the fuck up. You have no clue what you're talking about.
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Baldy wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:22 pm
kalm wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:29 pm MLB pulling the All Star Game from Atlanta over Georgia’s new election laws. Pressure also coming from Delta, Coke, and Hollywood.

Consequences. :nod:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... 7VSDekYaWQ
The main consequence for poor Stacey is the likelihood of Brian Kemp being reelected just went up substantially.

At least you were smart to go back into your shell when CID called you out. However, seeing JSO step all over his dick while taking another beating is never not funny. :lol:
Hey...Kalm reports, you decide. I only posted that there were consequences....which there are...regardless of what one thinks the intent of the law is. But now that you’ve mentioned it, I’m positive that intent was to be fair to everyone and had nothing to do with racial demographics...in Georgia.

I just wish these “triggered” socialist organization like Coke and MLB would stay in their lane.

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I’m still waiting to hear what is so objectionable about the GA bill that makes it akin to “whites only” water fountains

I’m also waiting for the White House to stop lying about it. This guy wasn’t supposed to be like the previous guy


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kalm wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:51 am
Baldy wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:22 pm
The main consequence for poor Stacey is the likelihood of Brian Kemp being reelected just went up substantially.

At least you were smart to go back into your shell when CID called you out. However, seeing JSO step all over his dick while taking another beating is never not funny. :lol:
Hey...Kalm reports, you decide. I only posted that there were consequences....which there are...regardless of what one thinks the intent of the law is. But now that you’ve mentioned it, I’m positive that intent was to be fair to everyone and had nothing to do with racial demographics...in Georgia.

I just wish these “triggered” socialist organization like Coke and MLB would stay in their lane.

:lol:
Are you saying that POC are too stupid to put their DL number on an absentee ballot or something?

In a nutshell...the intent of the law was to close ethically questionable loopholes (and illegal tactics) Donks have been trying to take advantage of for years, and now they are really pissed.
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Baldy wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:55 am
kalm wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:51 am

Hey...Kalm reports, you decide. I only posted that there were consequences....which there are...regardless of what one thinks the intent of the law is. But now that you’ve mentioned it, I’m positive that intent was to be fair to everyone and had nothing to do with racial demographics...in Georgia.

I just wish these “triggered” socialist organization like Coke and MLB would stay in their lane.

:lol:
Are you saying that POC are too stupid to put their DL number on an absentee ballot or something?

In a nutshell...the intent of the law was to close ethically questionable loopholes (and illegal tactics) Donks have been trying to take advantage of for years, and now they are really pissed.
Huh? You got that from what I posted?

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Baldy wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:05 pm
JohnStOnge wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:42 pm Can you just imagine a situation in which a Republican controlled State government asserts that the Fulton County election board is "struggling" so the State needs to take over and decide which votes are counted and which are not?
Please point me to the part in the bill that states that a "Republican controlled State government" can assert that any county is struggling and take over and decide which votes are counted?

Lemme help you out here....you can't.

What the law actually states is that the Georgia State Election Board...the BIPARTISAN Georgia State Election Board can step in when a county fails its voters by allowing long lines, not fulfilling absentee ballot requests, not counting votes accurately, lose ballots, etc. The county can only be "taken over" after investigations have been conducted, and a hearing has been held. The county can even appeal the decision to superior court if it chooses (i.e. due process).

Do yourself a favor and just shut the fuck up. You have no clue what you're talking about.
I'm assuming what the race hustlers are getting at here, is they are afraid of people wanting to come in and clean up counties that run their voting operations poorly.
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CID1990 wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:26 am I’m still waiting to hear what is so objectionable about the GA bill that makes it akin to “whites only” water fountains

I’m also waiting for the White House to stop lying about it. This guy wasn’t supposed to be like the previous guy


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Baldy wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:55 am
kalm wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:51 am

Hey...Kalm reports, you decide. I only posted that there were consequences....which there are...regardless of what one thinks the intent of the law is. But now that you’ve mentioned it, I’m positive that intent was to be fair to everyone and had nothing to do with racial demographics...in Georgia.

I just wish these “triggered” socialist organization like Coke and MLB would stay in their lane.

:lol:
Are you saying that POC are too stupid to put their DL number on an absentee ballot or something?

In a nutshell...the intent of the law was to close ethically questionable loopholes (and illegal tactics) Donks have been trying to take advantage of for years, and now they are really pissed.
I’ll wait to see those calling this a reincarnation of Jim Crow to put their money where their mouths are with federal law suits...

Wait, they can’t file in the Ninth District... :coffee:
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kalm wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:07 am
Baldy wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:55 am
Are you saying that POC are too stupid to put their DL number on an absentee ballot or something?

In a nutshell...the intent of the law was to close ethically questionable loopholes (and illegal tactics) Donks have been trying to take advantage of for years, and now they are really pissed.
Huh? You got that from what I posted?

:suspicious:
I asked a simple question, so why don't you explain what you're trying to convey here then?

You have a weird habit of being intentionally vague for some strange reason.
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