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Banned Speech, Kentucky Style...

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I sincerely appreciate the restraint most LE shows in certain situations like rioting. People suck. Mobs of people suck even more.

Not sure this is addressing the root of the problem, though.
The provision of the bill that would ban insulting police was modeled on laws in other states prohibiting comments that could reasonably push a person to violence, said Carroll, himself a former police officer. Those statutes, which are not specific to anti-police comments, rely on an exception to the First Amendment known as the “fighting words doctrine,” which holds that words inciting immediate violence are not constitutionally protected.

But Caroline Mala Corbin, a constitutional law professor at the University of Miami, said that doctrine may not apply to Kentucky’s bill because it specifically targets taunts aimed at police, rather than insulting language aimed at anyone. She said the doctrine, whose legal force is also fading, does not protect government actions to ban only certain viewpoints.

“Clearly the government is trying to ban speech it does not like,” Corbin said of the Kentucky provision. “And that is a paradigmatic violation of the free speech clause” of the First Amendment.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... lice-bill/
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Re: Banned Speech, Kentucky Style...

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kalm wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:42 am I sincerely appreciate the restraint most LE shows in certain situations like rioting. People suck. Mobs of people suck even more.

Not sure this is addressing the root of the problem, though.
The provision of the bill that would ban insulting police was modeled on laws in other states prohibiting comments that could reasonably push a person to violence, said Carroll, himself a former police officer. Those statutes, which are not specific to anti-police comments, rely on an exception to the First Amendment known as the “fighting words doctrine,” which holds that words inciting immediate violence are not constitutionally protected.

But Caroline Mala Corbin, a constitutional law professor at the University of Miami, said that doctrine may not apply to Kentucky’s bill because it specifically targets taunts aimed at police, rather than insulting language aimed at anyone. She said the doctrine, whose legal force is also fading, does not protect government actions to ban only certain viewpoints.

“Clearly the government is trying to ban speech it does not like,” Corbin said of the Kentucky provision. “And that is a paradigmatic violation of the free speech clause” of the First Amendment.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... lice-bill/
What about the gray areas?

"Good morning officer, and how are you pig-fuckers doing this fine morning?"

Fighting words or constitutionally protected? :?
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Re: Banned Speech, Kentucky Style...

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houndawg wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:24 am
kalm wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:42 am I sincerely appreciate the restraint most LE shows in certain situations like rioting. People suck. Mobs of people suck even more.

Not sure this is addressing the root of the problem, though.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... lice-bill/
What about the gray areas?

"Good morning officer, and how are you pig-fuckers doing this fine morning?"

Fighting words or constitutionally protected? :?
Nobody cares. They only hate the socialist kind of fascism around these parts. :ohno:
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