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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 11:07 am Desantis unloads on Soros Manhattan DA Bragg.
Is there evidence of a Soros connection?


And the same people bitching about a alleged weaponization of the justice system are quick to weaponize a state government for their own benefit.

Also the IRS...allegedly.
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Skjellyfetti wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 1:20 pm
Could have been someone who 2016 wasn’t a supporter of Trump or Clinton and 2020 wasn’t a supporter of Trump or Biden, so they ignored personality & character, and voted on policy.

I’m sure we have (or had since not many people left on here) posters who don’t conisder themselves Trump supporters, but who voted for him 2016 & 2020.
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Ibanez wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 12:31 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 11:07 am Desantis unloads on Soros Manhattan DA Bragg.
Is there evidence of a Soros connection?

And the same people bitching about a alleged weaponization of the justice system are quick to weaponize a state government for their own benefit.

Also the IRS...allegedly.
Soros also donated $1 million to Alvin Bragg’s successful DA campaign in Manhattan, funneling the cash through the Color of Change political action committee, according to public filings.
https://nypost.com/2021/12/16/how-georg ... ime-surge/
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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 2:20 pm
Ibanez wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 12:31 pm

Is there evidence of a Soros connection?

And the same people bitching about a alleged weaponization of the justice system are quick to weaponize a state government for their own benefit.

Also the IRS...allegedly.
Soros also donated $1 million to Alvin Bragg’s successful DA campaign in Manhattan, funneling the cash through the Color of Change political action committee, according to public filings.
https://nypost.com/2021/12/16/how-georg ... ime-surge/
Oh a campaign donation. Who cares? Shady and crappy people donate large sums of money to Rs and Da.
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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 2:17 pm
Skjellyfetti wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 1:20 pm
Could have been someone who 2016 wasn’t a supporter of Trump or Clinton and 2020 wasn’t a supporter of Trump or Biden, so they ignored personality & character, and voted on policy.

I’m sure we have (or had since not many people left on here) posters who don’t conisder themselves Trump supporters, but who voted for him 2016 & 2020.
Even his RINO champions don’t fall for that nonsense

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Ibanez wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 3:11 pm
Oh a campaign donation. Who cares? Shady and crappy people donate large sums of money to Rs and Da.
I think the issue is that Soros targets DA campaigns specifically...but, that doesn't appear to be against the law or preventing an "antiSoros" from donating to a competitor.
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Ibanez wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 3:15 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 2:17 pm
Could have been someone who 2016 wasn’t a supporter of Trump or Clinton and 2020 wasn’t a supporter of Trump or Biden, so they ignored personality & character, and voted on policy.

I’m sure we have (or had since not many people left on here) posters who don’t conisder themselves Trump supporters, but who voted for him 2016 & 2020.
Even his RINO champions don’t fall for that nonsense

We’re all pretending we’ve got a lot to show for it, because admitting what a disaster it’s been is too tough to digest. But come on. There isn’t really an upside to Trump.” - Tucker Carlson
Ok. You voted for Biden. That makes you a Biden supporter.
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Re: 2024 Primary

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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 2:17 pm
Skjellyfetti wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 1:20 pm
Could have been someone who 2016 wasn’t a supporter of Trump or Clinton and 2020 wasn’t a supporter of Trump or Biden, so they ignored personality & character, and voted on policy.

I’m sure we have (or had since not many people left on here) posters who don’t conisder themselves Trump supporters, but who voted for him 2016 & 2020.
That’s kind of the point of the tweet.
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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:48 pm
Ibanez wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 3:15 pm

Even his RINO champions don’t fall for that nonsense

We’re all pretending we’ve got a lot to show for it, because admitting what a disaster it’s been is too tough to digest. But come on. There isn’t really an upside to Trump.” - Tucker Carlson
Ok. You voted for Biden. That makes you a Biden supporter.
Not really. I voted for someone that had no chance at winning my district or my state. I voted for one mentally deficit old man over another.


Actually - i'm planning on voting for Nikki Haley if she makes it to the S.Carolina primary. As it stands right now my 2024 options are either 1) a decent Republican or; 2) No Vote
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Ibanez wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:24 am
BDKJMU wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:48 pm
Ok. You voted for Biden. That makes you a Biden supporter.
Not really. I voted for someone that had no chance at winning my district or my state. I voted for one mentally deficit old man over another.


Actually - i'm planning on voting for Nikki Haley if she makes it to the S.Carolina primary. As it stands right now my 2024 options are either 1) a decent Republican or; 2) No Vote
Well at least Haley isn’t the biggest neocon running. That would be Michael Bolton. You might have a couple other options:
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:12 am
Ibanez wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:24 am

Not really. I voted for someone that had no chance at winning my district or my state. I voted for one mentally deficit old man over another.


Actually - i'm planning on voting for Nikki Haley if she makes it to the S.Carolina primary. As it stands right now my 2024 options are either 1) a decent Republican or; 2) No Vote
Well at least Haley isn’t the biggest neocon running. That would be Michael Bolton. You might have a couple other options:
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Vermin Supreme is like all wizards, his mind is off in a reality of his own making.
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Re: 2024 Primary

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Winterborn wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:56 am
kalm wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:30 am
Vermin Supreme is a fascinating and intelligent wizard.
Wizard's second rule: The greatest harm can result from the best of intentions - Terry Goodkind


Vermin Supreme is like all wizards, his mind is off in a reality of his own making.
Not to get all philosophical on ya, but aren’t most if not all human minds?

:)

(Careful kalm…you’re talking to an engineer).

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kalm wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:07 am
Winterborn wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:56 am

Wizard's second rule: The greatest harm can result from the best of intentions - Terry Goodkind


Vermin Supreme is like all wizards, his mind is off in a reality of his own making.
Not to get all philosophical on ya, but aren’t most if not all human minds?

:)

(Careful kalm…you’re talking to an engineer).

;)
Even among us wizards, Vermin is off in his own world. :D

In all seriousness, he is interesting in the old crazy guy yelling at the clouds sort of way. Outside of that, he doesn't want nor intend to be serious about what most consider a serious topic (running a country, state, township, etc.). He wants to draw attention to a particular philosophy or himself, hence the boot on his head, and chooses to do it with humor. The problem is, he doesn't desire to go further than that and his brand of "humor" is now more a detriment than a help.

I find him as funny as Gretta Thunberg being awarded a Doctor of Theology from the University of Helsinki (which I find hilarious). But I don't take either serious.

BTW: Human minds come in all different packages. Some have been through the USPS and others by UPS, which means the condition will vary. :kisswink:
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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 5:48 pm
Ibanez wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 3:15 pm

Even his RINO champions don’t fall for that nonsense

We’re all pretending we’ve got a lot to show for it, because admitting what a disaster it’s been is too tough to digest. But come on. There isn’t really an upside to Trump.” - Tucker Carlson
Ok. You voted for Biden. That makes you a Biden supporter.
Nobody voted for Biden - they voted against Trump. :coffee:
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Winterborn wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:25 am
kalm wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:07 am

Not to get all philosophical on ya, but aren’t most if not all human minds?

:)

(Careful kalm…you’re talking to an engineer).

;)
Even among us wizards, Vermin is off in his own world. :D

In all seriousness, he is interesting in the old crazy guy yelling at the clouds sort of way. Outside of that, he doesn't want nor intend to be serious about what most consider a serious topic (running a country, state, township, etc.). He wants to draw attention to a particular philosophy or himself, hence the boot on his head, and chooses to do it with humor. The problem is, he doesn't desire to go further than that and his brand of "humor" is now more a detriment than a help.

I find him as funny as Gretta Thunberg being awarded a Doctor of Theology from the University of Helsinki (which I find hilarious). But I don't take either serious.

BTW: Human minds come in all different packages. Some have been through the USPS and others by UPS, which means the condition will vary. :kisswink:
loosen up, kid...
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 2:56 pm
GannonFan wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 2:40 pm

I think McCormick probably does win, just a better candidate. And the ballots didn't have anything to do with the fact that the real thing that hurt Oz, other than his attachment to Trump and other than the abominable candidate running for governor, was that he didn't make Fetterman's health and resistance to debate a bigger issue soon enough.

Other than that, though, making things easier for people to vote (i.e. no excuse mail in voting) is never a bad thing, assuming they are controlled and counted properly. We want people to vote, and we want more people to vote. Trying to get less people to vote is not really a good goal to have.
I believe it makes fraud easier or more likely than in person. I know this has already been beaten to death on here, but I don't believe there's any valid reason you can't have absentee limited to excuse (out of town during election day/week, infirm, the military, etc) and everyone else vote in person (make a national holiday, have the polls open for several days), with voter ID. Heck, apparently 46 of 47 European countries require voter ID, about 3/4 don't even allow absentee, and the majority that allow absentee require voter ID for absentee. And they are suppose to be more enlightened than us..
There is no more fraud with mail-in ballots than in-person voting. Decades of experience in Red and Blue states show that. No Valid reason? How about work, family, more time to study a ballot and all the propositions, judges, etc.
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GannonFan wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:52 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 2:56 pm
I believe it makes fraud easier or more likely than in person. I know this has already been beaten to death on here, but I don't believe there's any valid reason you can't have absentee limited to excuse (out of town during election day/week, infirm, the military, etc) and everyone else vote in person (make a national holiday, have the polls open for several days), with voter ID. Heck, apparently 46 of 47 European countries require voter ID, about 3/4 don't even allow absentee, and the majority that allow absentee require voter ID for absentee. And they are suppose to be more enlightened than us..
I can get behind that. And yes, fraud is easier without the in person vote. I don't think that's arguable. Good stuff.
It's very arguable. In fact, you'd lose. The facts show that.
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:41 pm
kalm wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:24 am

I’m not a Democrat. But yes they are conniving and corrupt. I didn’t know they’ve given up on Democracy or desire an authoritarian though.

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Democrats haven't given up on Democracy, they've given up on the Republic. The US is a Republic and the Senate, Electoral College, etc. are key elements that Democrats are attempting to undermine.

It will take an authoritarian government to force the America they want upon everyone else. Ever if it didn't, the big, uber-powerful federal government that Democrats desire will end up being authoritarian.
The Electoral College is an outdated vestige of slavery. The Republicans in 90% of elections can't win the popular vote.

How are the Democrats trying to undermine the Senate?

The GOP has undermined the House and state governments with extreme gerrymandering.

The GOP is 3/4 of the way to the authoritarian government already
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Ibanez wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 12:31 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 11:07 am Desantis unloads on Soros Manhattan DA Bragg.
Is there evidence of a Soros connection?


And the same people bitching about a alleged weaponization of the justice system are quick to weaponize a state government for their own benefit.

Also the IRS...allegedly.
There is none Soros has been the anti-semitic boogeyman for the GOP for decades. Yet they ignore all the billionaires (like Peter Thiel) that buy Senate Seats for themselves (via puppets like JD Vance)
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dbackjon wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 4:34 pm
GannonFan wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:52 pm

I can get behind that. And yes, fraud is easier without the in person vote. I don't think that's arguable. Good stuff.
It's very arguable. In fact, you'd lose. The facts show that.
Would you care to show facts, or would you like us to believe a house that gets 20 mail in ballots due to outdated voter rolls commits less fraud than people actually showing up and providing ID to vote.
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dbackjon wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 4:33 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 2:56 pm
I believe it makes fraud easier or more likely than in person. I know this has already been beaten to death on here, but I don't believe there's any valid reason you can't have absentee limited to excuse (out of town during election day/week, infirm, the military, etc) and everyone else vote in person (make a national holiday, have the polls open for several days), with voter ID. Heck, apparently 46 of 47 European countries require voter ID, about 3/4 don't even allow absentee, and the majority that allow absentee require voter ID for absentee. And they are suppose to be more enlightened than us..
There is no more fraud with mail-in ballots than in-person voting. Decades of experience in Red and Blue states show that. No Valid reason? How about work, family, more time to study a ballot and all the propositions, judges, etc.
And you provide zero evidence of your claim.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 4:53 pm
dbackjon wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 4:34 pm

It's very arguable. In fact, you'd lose. The facts show that.
Would you care to show facts, or would you like us to believe a house that gets 20 mail in ballots due to outdated voter rolls commits less fraud than people actually showing up and providing ID to vote.
Ditto. Beat me to it.
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dbackjon wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 4:39 pm
Ibanez wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 12:31 pm

Is there evidence of a Soros connection?


And the same people bitching about a alleged weaponization of the justice system are quick to weaponize a state government for their own benefit.

Also the IRS...allegedly.
There is none Soros has been the anti-semitic boogeyman for the GOP for decades. Yet they ignore all the billionaires (like Peter Thiel) that buy Senate Seats for themselves (via puppets like JD Vance)
:nod:

But it’s nice to see all of the GOP received the same talking points on this.

Jordan thinks congress has jurisdiction over a state court case and Rand Paul tweeted that Bragg should be jailed.

Lol.
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