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UNI88 wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 9:12 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 8:36 pm

:rofl: I would say his record of accomplishment outweighs the fact he acts and speaks like a CEO ever day. You keep holding your breath for a virtuous, honest politician. I bet you can't hold your breath that long.

Some people who are minorly perceptive can see actions speak louder than words and others can't.
Justin Amash isn't perfect but he's a lot more virtuous than trump and just about any other elected official in DC. I would take him or Gary Johnson over trump, Biden and the other clowns. There are plenty of virtuous and honest politicians at the local level.

Action speak louder than words? trump's actions include sexual assault and rape, bribery to cover up an affair with a porn star, refusing to pay subcontractors for time and materials, and on and on. So I see his actions and they define the kind of person he is.
They're just waiting for their chance to get their snouts in to the trough. :coffee:
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 3:35 pm Its official:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-AA1bEcgf
Off to a fine start…

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Fox News is in the tank for DeSantis and it's completely obvious. That network could destroy itself via audience capture if it isn't careful.
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 4:51 pm
Largest tax cut in history - liar, liar pants on fire ...

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UNI88 wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 5:12 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 4:51 pm
Largest tax cut in history - liar, liar pants on fire ...
Probably largest tax cut in history in total dollar amount, but not adjusted for inflation or percentage of imcome taxes paid or percent of GDP.
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BDKJMU wrote:
UNI88 wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 5:12 pm Largest tax cut in history - liar, liar pants on fire ...
Probably largest tax cut in history in total dollar amount, but not adjusted for inflation or percentage of imcome taxes paid or percent of GDP.
He lied. His campaign ad is a lie.

He’s a POS who is FOS.
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UNI88 wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 6:51 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Probably largest tax cut in history in total dollar amount, but not adjusted for inflation or percentage of imcome taxes paid or percent of GDP.
He lied. His campaign ad is a lie.

He’s a POS who is FOS.
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According to an analysis from the Congressional Budget Office looking at corporate tax rates around the globe in 2012, this is essentially true.

Most analyses suggest that in absolute terms, this year's reduction of the US corporate tax rate from 35% to 21% is the biggest corporate tax cut in US history.

It beats that corporate tax cut passed under former US President Ronald Reagan, which lowered the rate from 46% to 34%.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-43790895
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BDKJMU wrote:
UNI88 wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 6:51 pm
He lied. His campaign ad is a lie.

He’s a POS who is FOS.
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According to an analysis from the Congressional Budget Office looking at corporate tax rates around the globe in 2012, this is essentially true.

Most analyses suggest that in absolute terms, this year's reduction of the US corporate tax rate from 35% to 21% is the biggest corporate tax cut in US history.

It beats that corporate tax cut passed under former US President Ronald Reagan, which lowered the rate from 46% to 34%.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-43790895
Im sure Biden can spin things to justify his lies too. trump and Biden, peas in a pod. Both decrepit old liars.

That trump is a POS is truth. That trump is FOS is also truth.
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2018 I think
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kalm wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 8:00 am
It's hard to see a path for DeSantis to be the nominee - he's basically Trump without the personality. Trump wins by sucking the air out of the room. DeSantis just basically sucks. DeSantis needs Trump to leave the race to have any chance to win, and I don't see that happening anytime soon.
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kalm wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 8:00 am
On the bright side, it's still more people then attended trump's inauguration.
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kalm wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 8:00 am
Fake News- was reportedly 600k before the glitch happened. 300k AFTER it came back.

The left is desperatly going after Desantis along with Trump (strange bedfellows indeed).
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UNI88 wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 9:02 am
kalm wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 8:00 am
On the bright side, it's still more people then attended trump's inauguration.
That’s Fake News also.
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 9:05 am
UNI88 wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 9:02 am

On the bright side, it's still more people then attended trump's inauguration.
That’s Fake News also.
It's fake news that 1.5 million (or any number near that) attended trump's inauguration. Just another of trump's many lies.

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#desaster
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 9:03 am
kalm wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 8:00 am
Fake News- was reportedly 600k before the glitch happened. 300k AFTER it came back.

The left is desperatly going after Desantis along with Trump (strange bedfellows indeed).
Certainly some truth to that - firmly believe that many on the left want Trump to be the nominee as they seem him as unelectable in the general. Very similar to the strategy to push forward similarly GOP nominees in the midterms. Even CNN appears to be in on it, just based on their extensive coverage of DeSantis's Twitter follies compared to more mainstream outlets. I think it's a great short term strategy, but in the long term not all that good for the country as invariably some or many of these undesirable candidates will get elected. And it's not like the Dems are necessarily doing a great job of vetting their own candidates while hoping for disaster on the GOP side. It's how we end up with the likes of Fetterman and Biden holding office - better than their alternatives, but pretty crappy nonetheless.
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UNI88 wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 9:12 am
BDKJMU wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 9:05 am
That’s Fake News also.
It's fake news that 1.5 million (or any number near that) attended trump's inauguration. Just another of trump's many lies.

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Not what you said. :dunce:
You said in response to the 300k # in Kalm’s meme:
UNI88 wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 9:02 am On the bright side, it's still more people then attended trump's inauguration.
Therefore your claim that 300k is more than attended Trumps inauguration is Fake News.
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GannonFan wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 9:35 am
BDKJMU wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 9:03 am
Fake News- was reportedly 600k before the glitch happened. 300k AFTER it came back.

The left is desperatly going after Desantis along with Trump (strange bedfellows indeed).
Certainly some truth to that - firmly believe that many on the left want Trump to be the nominee as they seem him as unelectable in the general. Very similar to the strategy to push forward similarly GOP nominees in the midterms. Even CNN appears to be in on it, just based on their extensive coverage of DeSantis's Twitter follies compared to more mainstream outlets. I think it's a great short term strategy, but in the long term not all that good for the country as invariably some or many of these undesirable candidates will get elected. And it's not like the Dems are necessarily doing a great job of vetting their own candidates while hoping for disaster on the GOP side. It's how we end up with the likes of Fetterman and Biden holding office - better than their alternatives, but pretty crappy nonetheless.
Lol if you think Fetterman, who is only capable of muttering gibberish and voting how he is told, with clearly less decorum than anyone in DC (including Trump) was better than his alternative. I would only expect a died in the wool donk to say that.
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 9:55 am
UNI88 wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 9:12 am
It's fake news that 1.5 million (or any number near that) attended trump's inauguration. Just another of trump's many lies.

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Not what you said. :dunce:
You said in response to the 300k # in Kalm’s meme:
UNI88 wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 9:02 am On the bright side, it's still more people then attended trump's inauguration.
Therefore your claim that 300k is more than attended Trumps inauguration is Fake News.
No it isn't. The size of the crowd at trump's inauguration is up to interpretation and there are some that estimated it at 250k people which is less than 300k. At best it was 600k, considerably less than Obama or Clinton's 1st inauguration.

We can be sure that it wasn't the largest crowd ever so that claim is Fake News. trump and Spicer are liars.
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