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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:22 am
SDHornet wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:11 am

Halley is your typical establishment conk. She'll get run because she has a vagina and the establishment will circle the wagons around her. The typical Trump supporter has no interest in her.

DeSanits probably has the best resume' given how well FL has done with the China Virus, but he's a white male and pairing him up with a Noem/"enter female conk here/token POC" probably doesn't over come that.
Desantis and Noem are 2 at the top of my list.
Pick from this list: Any two:

Noem
Crenshaw
Desantis
Hailey
Scott
Rice

I’d take any two of those all day long. I think a no-bullshit Nikki Haley as president, with a VP who wears an eye patch would be fucking awesome. :lol: :lol:
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AZGrizFan wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:34 am
SDHornet wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:11 am

Halley is your typical establishment conk. She'll get run because she has a vagina and the establishment will circle the wagons around her. The typical Trump supporter has no interest in her.

DeSanits probably has the best resume' given how well FL has done with the China Virus, but he's a white male and pairing him up with a Noem/"enter female conk here/token POC" probably doesn't over come that.
Mmmm...I disagree. The FANATICAL Trump supporter has no interest in her. The TYPICAL Trump supporter had little interest in TRUMP, but voted for him because of his policies. If we could have Trump-like policies, WITHOUT the circus surrounding Trump, it’d be perfect.
Agreed, but Haley doesn't fit that criteria. She's schmozing the establishment donors as we speak, so you can forget any meaningful Trump-like policies to be in her platform.
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SDHornet wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:36 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:34 am

Mmmm...I disagree. The FANATICAL Trump supporter has no interest in her. The TYPICAL Trump supporter had little interest in TRUMP, but voted for him because of his policies. If we could have Trump-like policies, WITHOUT the circus surrounding Trump, it’d be perfect.
Agreed, but Haley doesn't fit that criteria. She's schmozing the establishment donors as we speak, so you can forget any meaningful Trump-like policies to be in her platform.
I don’t agree. She was a fairly strong Trump supporter until he went off the deep end the last 9 months or so with all his conspiracy theories.
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SDHornet wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:26 am
BDKJMU wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:22 am
Desantis and Noem are 2 at the top of my list.
There's a reason for all the "FL is struggling with the China Virus" narratives, and it's not based on the numbers seen. Hell there's even talks of a federal flight ban to FL (is that even legal?) just to make the guy look bad.
I doubt its legal.
https://nypost.com/2021/02/12/desantis- ... ravel-ban/
Notice how Fl, with no lockdowns, no statewide mask mandate, a relatively dense state, with a yuge population, and shit tons of elderly, are below the national avg in deaths per million at #26. #1 and #2- NJ and NY. maybe there should be a travel ban to NJ and NY..
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AZGrizFan wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:37 am
SDHornet wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:36 am

Agreed, but Haley doesn't fit that criteria. She's schmozing the establishment donors as we speak, so you can forget any meaningful Trump-like policies to be in her platform.
I don’t agree. She was a fairly strong Trump supporter until he went off the deep end the last 9 months or so with all his conspiracy theories.
We'll see, and I hope I'm wrong. I think she could beat Harris in 24 if she has the right platform. I think she'll be corrupted by Koch money (anti-immigration enforcement) and Lockheed money (yay wars) by the time she announces her candidacy. At that point she'll be no different than your typical neocon.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:34 am
SDHornet wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:11 am

Halley is your typical establishment conk. She'll get run because she has a vagina and the establishment will circle the wagons around her. The typical Trump supporter has no interest in her.

DeSanits probably has the best resume' given how well FL has done with the China Virus, but he's a white male and pairing him up with a Noem/"enter female conk here/token POC" probably doesn't over come that.
Mmmm...I disagree. The FANATICAL Trump supporter has no interest in her. The TYPICAL Trump supporter had little interest in TRUMP, but voted for him because of his policies. If we could have Trump-like policies, WITHOUT the circus surrounding Trump, it’d be perfect.
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SDHornet wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:44 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:37 am

I don’t agree. She was a fairly strong Trump supporter until he went off the deep end the last 9 months or so with all his conspiracy theories.
We'll see, and I hope I'm wrong. I think she could beat Harris in 24 if she has the right platform. I think she'll be corrupted by Koch money (anti-immigration enforcement) and Lockheed money (yay wars) by the time she announces her candidacy. At that point she'll be no different than your typical neocon.
Her narrative started to change last year with who she was been associating with donor wise. How strong her backbone is with relation to how bad she wants the nomination/presidency remains to be seen. I have moved off the cautiously supporting her wagon to sitting on the fence. Lots can happen in 3 years.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:35 am
BDKJMU wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:22 am
Desantis and Noem are 2 at the top of my list.
Pick from this list: Any two:

Noem
Crenshaw
Desantis
Hailey
Scott
Rice

I’d take any two of those all day long. I think a no-bullshit Nikki Haley as president, with a VP who wears an eye patch would be fucking awesome. :lol: :lol:
Haley/Crenshaw


I might be convinced for Haley/Scott but I don't think America is ready for an all SC ticket
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Ibanez wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:53 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:35 am

Pick from this list: Any two:

Noem
Crenshaw
Desantis
Hailey
Scott
Rice

I’d take any two of those all day long. I think a no-bullshit Nikki Haley as president, with a VP who wears an eye patch would be fucking awesome. :lol: :lol:
Haley/Crenshaw


I might be convinced for Haley/Scott but I don't think America is ready for an all SC ticket
I would be all for it. :D

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Haley is a neocon with no morals or spine. She'll whore out to whoever writes the biggest check. And from what I've read the word whore might apply for other reasons as well.
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HI54UNI wrote:Haley is a neocon with no morals or spine. She'll whore out to whoever writes the biggest check. And from what I've read the word whore might apply for other reasons as well.
So she's a neocon version of Trump?

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HI54UNI wrote:Haley is a neocon with no morals or spine. She'll whore out to whoever writes the biggest check. And from what I've read the word whore might apply for other reasons as well.
Talking about the alleged adultry from her years as governor? I believe that was proven to be false. Besides, when has that ever been a disqualifying factor? The party of family values doesn’t care if you get some on the side.


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SDHornet wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:36 am
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Would you be? Pull off a short and simple con and walk away with millions. Why waste time with subtlety - show me the money!
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UNI88 wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:54 am
kalm wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:30 am

Yep! :nod:

And the DC cocktail circuit elitist Dems (The ones who control the party) ignore the working class at their peril.

Pet peeve: ascribing populism to the right-wing extremists. Not calling out you, but that’s relatively new labeling and used as a pejorative by too many on the left.
I think it's accurate and not a pejorative. Dems used to be populist and the Progressive Left still is, they just appeal to a different part of the population than the Populist Right.
Certainly from a cultural standpoint and I’m not saying you can somehow align the two. But not all right wing populists are deplorable :mrgreen: .

Every rust belt kid that comes out as gay....every farm raised kid that gets into an inter-racial relationship....every fundie Christian that loses faith...narrows the culture gap a little.

I’ll cop to being nostalgic and still holding out hope for a reasonable subset voting block of populists from both sides.

I like country music AND weed AND guns AND limited government AND Bernie AND Sasse AND Chappelle.

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kalm wrote: Sat Feb 13, 2021 6:51 am
UNI88 wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:54 am

I think it's accurate and not a pejorative. Dems used to be populist and the Progressive Left still is, they just appeal to a different part of the population than the Populist Right.
Certainly from a cultural standpoint and I’m not saying you can somehow align the two. But not all right wing populists are deplorable :mrgreen: .

Every rust belt kid that comes out as gay....every farm raised kid that gets into an inter-racial relationship....every fundie Christian that loses faith...narrows the culture gap a little.

I’ll cop to being nostalgic and still holding out hope for a reasonable subset voting block of populists from both sides.

I like country music AND weed AND guns AND limited government AND Bernie AND Sasse AND Chappelle.

:D

This explains so much. :lol:
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HI54UNI wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:33 pm Haley is a neocon with no morals or spine. She'll whore out to whoever writes the biggest check. And from what I've read the word whore might apply for other reasons as well.
Let's see, she's an establishment neocon who has gone from Never Trumper to Pro Trumper to Never Trumper, who just threw the Republican base (ie Trump supporters) under the bus. Even if Trump doesn't run in 24', he's still going to be a kingmaker. Maybe Haley isn't running in 24? She sure as heck just kneecapped her chances of winning the 24' nomination.
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And JSO's go-to group is done as they have officially stopped accepting donations. Way to pick some "principled conservatives" JSO, well done. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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kalm wrote: Sat Feb 13, 2021 6:51 am
UNI88 wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:54 am

I think it's accurate and not a pejorative. Dems used to be populist and the Progressive Left still is, they just appeal to a different part of the population than the Populist Right.
Certainly from a cultural standpoint and I’m not saying you can somehow align the two. But not all right wing populists are deplorable :mrgreen: .

Every rust belt kid that comes out as gay....every farm raised kid that gets into an inter-racial relationship....every fundie Christian that loses faith...narrows the culture gap a little.

I’ll cop to being nostalgic and still holding out hope for a reasonable subset voting block of populists from both sides.

I like country music AND weed AND guns AND limited government AND Bernie AND Sasse AND Chappelle.

:D
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AZGrizFan wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:00 pm
kalm wrote: Sat Feb 13, 2021 6:51 am

Certainly from a cultural standpoint and I’m not saying you can somehow align the two. But not all right wing populists are deplorable :mrgreen: .

Every rust belt kid that comes out as gay....every farm raised kid that gets into an inter-racial relationship....every fundie Christian that loses faith...narrows the culture gap a little.

I’ll cop to being nostalgic and still holding out hope for a reasonable subset voting block of populists from both sides.

I like country music AND weed AND guns AND limited government AND Bernie AND Sasse AND Chappelle.

:D
You are just one giant fucking walking contradiction. :lol: :lol:
I think "nuance" is the word you are looking for.
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SDHornet wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:08 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:00 pm

You are just one giant fucking walking contradiction. :lol: :lol:
I think "nuance" is the word you are looking for.
But still lovable and entertaining. :nod:

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AZGrizFan wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:00 pm
kalm wrote: Sat Feb 13, 2021 6:51 am

Certainly from a cultural standpoint and I’m not saying you can somehow align the two. But not all right wing populists are deplorable :mrgreen: .

Every rust belt kid that comes out as gay....every farm raised kid that gets into an inter-racial relationship....every fundie Christian that loses faith...narrows the culture gap a little.

I’ll cop to being nostalgic and still holding out hope for a reasonable subset voting block of populists from both sides.

I like country music AND weed AND guns AND limited government AND Bernie AND Sasse AND Chappelle.

:D
You are just one giant fucking walking contradiction. :lol: :lol:
I’ll take that as a compliment so thank you. :nod:
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kalm wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:38 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:00 pm

You are just one giant fucking walking contradiction. :lol: :lol:
I’ll take that as a compliment so thank you. :nod:
It was meant as one :nod: :nod: :kisswink:
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SDHornet wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:35 pm And JSO's go-to group is done as they have officially stopped accepting donations. Way to pick some "principled conservatives" JSO, well done. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

The Lincoln Project was nothing more than a money laundering organization, run by a bunch of fake conks, headed by a pedo.The MSM knew, but they didn’t want to expose it, because getting rid of Trump and his supporters was more important than exposing a pedo and a bunch of guys enriching themselves off of donations. How many tens of millions did these guys funnel to themselves?Just like with Hunter Biden, there was nothing to see here as far as the MSM was concerned until after the election.
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Ibanez wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:16 am
BDKJMU wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:26 pm
If the spineless, establishment elitists want to go create their own party, let them.
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Former US ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley directly criticized former President Donald Trump for his involvement stoking the US Capitol riot in a new interview, a notable condemnation from someone who is widely viewed as harboring presidential hopes in a party that is still in thrall to Trump.

"We need to acknowledge he let us down," she told Politico magazine in an interview published Friday. "He went down a path he shouldn't have, and we shouldn't have followed him, and we shouldn't have listened to him. And we can't let that ever happen again."
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SDHornet wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:36 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:34 am

Mmmm...I disagree. The FANATICAL Trump supporter has no interest in her. The TYPICAL Trump supporter had little interest in TRUMP, but voted for him because of his policies. If we could have Trump-like policies, WITHOUT the circus surrounding Trump, it’d be perfect.
Agreed, but Haley doesn't fit that criteria. She's schmozing the establishment donors as we speak, so you can forget any meaningful Trump-like policies to be in her platform.
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