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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:57 am
Pwns wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:55 am I've never taken academia's presidential rankings seriously, and it has nothing to to do with academia's liberal slant.

There's an obvious bias in rankings to presidents who took office amidst a crisis and had it resolved before they left office even if that crisis resolved in spite of them and not because of them.

Example: FDR and Lincoln are usually considered among the best ever. Does anyone really believe that legitimately the most astute and capable leaders just happened to come about in the 2 worst crises in the country's national crises? It defies probability. You'd have to be really dumb enough to think we got the absolute best possible outcomes after the secession and the 1929 crash and that sticking absolutely anyone else in those presidencies would've resulted in a worse version of history.

As for Trump, well I think time will tell. IMO the GOP needs to move away from being a party of big business (who are becoming increasingly "woke" and hostile to cultural conservatism) and become more nationalist. If Trump ultimately starts the party on that trajectory his presidency will have been a success IMO.
Nationalist AND Poplulist
Sounds kind of fascist. Are the followers going to goose step through town?

* Populist
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UNI88 wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:09 am
BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:57 am
Nationalist AND Poplulist
Sounds kind of fascist. Are the followers going to goose step through town?

* Populist
Nationalism and Populism = Fascism.. :suspicious:
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:19 am
UNI88 wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:09 am
Sounds kind of fascist. Are the followers going to goose step through town?

* Populist
Nationalism and Populism = Fascism.. :suspicious:
Are you arguing that national socialism wasn't populist?
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UNI88 wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:36 am
BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:19 am
Nationalism and Populism = Fascism.. :suspicious:
Are you arguing that national socialism wasn't populist?
No, the Nazis were populist. I'm arguing that nationalism and populism doesn't mean fascism.

Communists are socialist. But liberalism and socialism doesn't mean communism.
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:00 pm
UNI88 wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:36 am
Are you arguing that national socialism wasn't populist?
No, the Nazis were populist. I'm arguing that nationalism and populism doesn't mean fascism.

Communists are socialist. But liberalism and socialism doesn't mean communism.
And I said that it "sounds kind of fascist" not that it was fascist.

Populism and nationalism are typically important elements of national socialism so while we don't know if this wet dream of a party will check all the boxes, it is checking a couple of important ones.
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UNI88 wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:00 am
houndawg wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 5:33 am

You weren't even alive then. :coffee:

Jabbering half-wit cunt. :ohno:
And you were stoned to the bejesus the entire 8 years. You don't remember shit about Reagan either. ;)
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WWII wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:30 pm Alexander Haig
:lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm in charge here!!!
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houndawg wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:14 am
UNI88 wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:00 am
And you were stoned to the bejesus the entire 8 years. You don't remember shit about Reagan either. ;)
Born and raised in CA, I was sucking Reagan off before you were born :coffee:
Is that what ended his marriage to Jane Wyman?
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BDKJMU wrote:
UNI88 wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:09 am Sounds kind of fascist. Are the followers going to goose step through town?

* Populist
Nationalism and Populism = Fascism.. :suspicious:
Yes. Thats not to say that all Populists and Nationalists are Fascists.


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BDKJMU wrote:
UNI88 wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:36 am Are you arguing that national socialism wasn't populist?
No, the Nazis were populist. I'm arguing that nationalism and populism doesn't mean fascism.

Communists are socialist. But liberalism and socialism doesn't mean communism.
They were also nationalists.


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WWII wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:29 pmAlexander Haig
:lol: :lol: :notworthy:
If fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism. Ronald Reagan, 1975.

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HI54UNI wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:15 pm
WWII wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:29 pmAlexander Haig
:lol: :lol: :notworthy:
My memory is kind of fuzzy - but that was the SoS who said he was in charge after Regan was shot, right?
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Ibanez wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:13 pm
BDKJMU wrote: No, the Nazis were populist. I'm arguing that nationalism and populism doesn't mean fascism.

Communists are socialist. But liberalism and socialism doesn't mean communism.
They were also nationalists.


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Populism is now a dirty word to the left.

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Ibanez wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:33 am
HI54UNI wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:15 pm

:lol: :lol: :notworthy:
My memory is kind of fuzzy - but that was the SoS who said he was in charge after Regan was shot, right?
Yep.
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I submit John Tyler - he joined the confederacy.
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Ibanez wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:33 am
HI54UNI wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:15 pm

:lol: :lol: :notworthy:
My memory is kind of fuzzy - but that was the SoS who said he was in charge after Regan was shot, right?
*Reagan

And yes, brilliant deduction. That’s why I quoted WWII’s post and said “I’m in charge here!”

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AZGrizFan wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:17 pm
Ibanez wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:33 am

My memory is kind of fuzzy - but that was the SoS who said he was in charge after Regan was shot, right?
*Reagan

And yes, brilliant deduction. That’s why I quoted WWII’s post and said “I’m in charge here!”

:coffee: :coffee: :coffee:
Still prolly would have been a better president than Regan.

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AZGrizFan wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:33 am My memory is kind of fuzzy - but that was the SoS who said he was in charge after Regan was shot, right?
*Reagan

And yes, brilliant deduction. That’s why I quoted WWII’s post and said “I’m in charge here!”

:coffee: :coffee: :coffee:
It was more about when he was “president”....ass


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kalm wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:33 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:17 pm

*Reagan

And yes, brilliant deduction. That’s why I quoted WWII’s post and said “I’m in charge here!”

:coffee: :coffee: :coffee:
Still prolly would have been a better president than Regan.

:coffee:
Well Regan was a promoter of Reaganomics and tax cuts so you would probably think that. But Regan never ran for president like Haig did.
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kalm wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:33 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:17 pm

*Reagan

And yes, brilliant deduction. That’s why I quoted WWII’s post and said “I’m in charge here!”

:coffee: :coffee: :coffee:
Still prolly would have been a better president than Regan.

:coffee:
He makes Trump look like a puppy dog.
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:34 pm
houndawg wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:14 am

Born and raised in CA, I was sucking Reagan off before you were born :coffee:
Is that what ended his marriage to Jane Wyman?
That cow? :tothehand:
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Gil Dobie wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 6:15 pm Biden isn't off to the best start, but he gets to follow a bad President.
It won't be easy for Biden to win over a crowd whose political IQ is at the level of shitting on the Capitol floor and wiping it on the walls. :coffee:

Just think if they hadn't stopped to shit on the floors and wipe it on the walls - Mike Pence might not have had time to escape his planned lynching... :shock:
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