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JohnStOnge wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 9:01 pm
CID1990 wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:22 pm DeSantis HAS to be licking his chops at the prospect of running against her OR Biden.

Kamala didn’t even get to the Iowa primary. I doubt Dem enthusiasm for her has increased since then.

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I think that if they took polls right now for DeSantis vs. either Biden or Harris he'd be down to either of them. Harris may not have done well in the Democrat primaries, but when she dropped out of the race she was up 6 percentage points on Trump in the Real Clear Politics average.

I also think DeSantis is horrible in terms of the charisma factor. I know it shouldn't matter. But I think it does. He's got this "fingernails across the blackboard" whiney voice, acts like a prick, and looks greasy.

We'll see what happens.
You think Harris has any charisma? :suspicious: :lol:

And Harris acts like a coont. Clinton might have been the most unlikeable candidate in our lifetimes, but if its Harris for the donks, she‘ll be to Hillary “Hold my beer“.

‘Looks greasy‘. :suspicious: Da Fuq?
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JohnStOnge wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 8:45 pm
SDHornet wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:10 pm

And :lol: @ Trump trolling Kamala into making a border visit.
I've always thought this kind of thing is really stupid. I mean this thing where a politician or official is expected to go be physically present at a spot where something went on. Like George W. Bush needing to go to New Orleans to understand what he needed to understand to address Katrina. Or Barrack Obama needing to fly over Louisiana to be able to address the Deepwater Horizon oil discharge thing. It's just stupid.

An official making a trip to go look at something contributes zero to what that official needs to know in order to address the situation. Harris going to the border, whether it's El Paso or at the eastern end of the border area, accomplishes nothing but wasting money on travel and complicating things for local officials and residents when she's in the area.

I frankly wish the Biden Administration would, in response to this nonsense about Harris visiting the border area, has asked "Why? What is that going to accomplish? What is she going to know that's relevant to addressing the issue after she goes that she wouldn't know if she didn't go?"
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I've apparently got a ways to go, before I earn my woke wings. All this time I thought it was the Libs wanting to defund the police, but in reality, it's really my fault.
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Ivytalk wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:40 am
JohnStOnge wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 8:45 pm

I've always thought this kind of thing is really stupid. I mean this thing where a politician or official is expected to go be physically present at a spot where something went on. Like George W. Bush needing to go to New Orleans to understand what he needed to understand to address Katrina. Or Barrack Obama needing to fly over Louisiana to be able to address the Deepwater Horizon oil discharge thing. It's just stupid.

An official making a trip to go look at something contributes zero to what that official needs to know in order to address the situation. Harris going to the border, whether it's El Paso or at the eastern end of the border area, accomplishes nothing but wasting money on travel and complicating things for local officials and residents when she's in the area.

I frankly wish the Biden Administration would, in response to this nonsense about Harris visiting the border area, has asked "Why? What is that going to accomplish? What is she going to know that's relevant to addressing the issue after she goes that she wouldn't know if she didn't go?"
You really should apply for Psaki’s job. You have an excuse for every fuckup that JoeMala make. You’re all in for HR 1, the Infrastructure bill, and higher taxes, so why wait? :dunce:
It's always a good :lol: watching JSO hold the Leftists water and do his typical mental gymnastics to justify his "conservative" stances. :rofl:
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Ivytalk wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:40 am
JohnStOnge wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 8:45 pm

I've always thought this kind of thing is really stupid. I mean this thing where a politician or official is expected to go be physically present at a spot where something went on. Like George W. Bush needing to go to New Orleans to understand what he needed to understand to address Katrina. Or Barrack Obama needing to fly over Louisiana to be able to address the Deepwater Horizon oil discharge thing. It's just stupid.

An official making a trip to go look at something contributes zero to what that official needs to know in order to address the situation. Harris going to the border, whether it's El Paso or at the eastern end of the border area, accomplishes nothing but wasting money on travel and complicating things for local officials and residents when she's in the area.

I frankly wish the Biden Administration would, in response to this nonsense about Harris visiting the border area, has asked "Why? What is that going to accomplish? What is she going to know that's relevant to addressing the issue after she goes that she wouldn't know if she didn't go?"
You really should apply for Psaki’s job. You have an excuse for every fuckup that JoeMala make. You’re all in for HR 1, the Infrastructure bill, and higher taxes, so why wait? :dunce:
I've said that basic thing for a long time. I was involved in Katrina response and Deepwater Horizon response. In my opinion dignitaries coming to scenes just make things more difficult. Yes, they have a job to do. But they don't need to come be physically present where things are going on to do it. Someone like the President or Vice President of the United States is getting all the data they need to make decisions about things regardless of where they physically are. There was no reason for Obama to go fly around looking at Louisiana when the Deepwater Horizon thing was going on. There was no reason for the dignitary I ran around with in a car so they could have photo ops to be down here. Their physical presence contributed nothing. And it's the same thing with Harris going to the border. Her going to the border, regardless of the specific spot, isn't going to give her a better understanding of what's going on at the border.

I just think it's a shame that we have this cultural thing where we think it's SO important for somebody to do something like that when the opposite is the case and I wish one day SOME politician or leader would tell it like it is on this kind of stuff.
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BDKJMU wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 9:40 pm
JohnStOnge wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 9:01 pm

I think that if they took polls right now for DeSantis vs. either Biden or Harris he'd be down to either of them. Harris may not have done well in the Democrat primaries, but when she dropped out of the race she was up 6 percentage points on Trump in the Real Clear Politics average.

I also think DeSantis is horrible in terms of the charisma factor. I know it shouldn't matter. But I think it does. He's got this "fingernails across the blackboard" whiney voice, acts like a prick, and looks greasy.

We'll see what happens.
You think Harris has any charisma? :suspicious: :lol:

And Harris acts like a coont. Clinton might have been the most unlikeable candidate in our lifetimes, but if its Harris for the donks, she‘ll be to Hillary “Hold my beer“.

‘Looks greasy‘. :suspicious: Da Fuq?
Harris isn't Obama but she's got a lot more charisma than DeSantis does. I thought someone would bring up Biden.

DeSantis also has a problem in that he stuck his head up Trump's anus in order to get to the Governorship and did so publicly with things like this:



If he does end up as the Republican candidate for President and I were the Democrats I would run adds featuring THAT ad of his incessantly.

He is joined at the hip with Trump. There are advantages and disadvantages to that. But I think the disadvantages outweigh the advantages.

As I said prior to the 2020 election: There are very strong feelings on both sides of Trump. There are a whole lot of people who are basically in a Trump cult. There are a whole lot of people who can not stand Trump and get very fired up in opposition to him. I think the second group is larger and I think that is a problem for a Republicans who have hitched themselves to Trump to gain traction.
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JohnStOnge wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:58 pm
Ivytalk wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:40 am

You really should apply for Psaki’s job. You have an excuse for every fuckup that JoeMala make. You’re all in for HR 1, the Infrastructure bill, and higher taxes, so why wait? :dunce:
I've said that basic thing for a long time. I was involved in Katrina response and Deepwater Horizon response. In my opinion dignitaries coming to scenes just make things more difficult. Yes, they have a job to do. But they don't need to come be physically present where things are going on to do it. Someone like the President or Vice President of the United States is getting all the data they need to make decisions about things regardless of where they physically are. There was no reason for Obama to go fly around looking at Louisiana when the Deepwater Horizon thing was going on. There was no reason for the dignitary I ran around with in a car so they could have photo ops to be down here. Their physical presence contributed nothing. And it's the same thing with Harris going to the border. Her going to the border, regardless of the specific spot, isn't going to give her a better understanding of what's going on at the border.

I just think it's a shame that we have this cultural thing where we think it's SO important for somebody to do something like that when the opposite is the case and I wish one day SOME politician or leader would tell it like it is on this kind of stuff.
It's a manufacturing thing StOnge, called going to Gemba. How are you going to understand the process if you don't see it with your own eyes and talk to the local people affected by the issue?

You really think some schmuck from Washington DC is going to give Kamala the straight story? Do they even understand the story?
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AZGrizFan wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:41 am Liberal logic:

Open the borders
Let the criminals out of prison
Encourage open hostility towards anyone wearing a law enforcement uniform
Stoke the flames of racial tension
Defund the police
Take guns away from law abiding citizens

And then BLAME guns on the skyrocketing violence in America's big cities. Seriously, libs....are y'all REALLY that retarded?
My bet would be that people who self-identify as liberals are notably more intelligent, on average, than people who self-identify as conservatives are.
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JohnStOnge wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:41 am Liberal logic:

Open the borders
Let the criminals out of prison
Encourage open hostility towards anyone wearing a law enforcement uniform
Stoke the flames of racial tension
Defund the police
Take guns away from law abiding citizens

And then BLAME guns on the skyrocketing violence in America's big cities. Seriously, libs....are y'all REALLY that retarded?
My bet would be that people who self-identify as liberals are notably more intelligent, on average, than people who self-identify as conservatives are.
And yet are devoid of common sense or a sense of realpolitik


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BDKJMU wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 9:40 pm
JohnStOnge wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 9:01 pm

I think that if they took polls right now for DeSantis vs. either Biden or Harris he'd be down to either of them. Harris may not have done well in the Democrat primaries, but when she dropped out of the race she was up 6 percentage points on Trump in the Real Clear Politics average.

I also think DeSantis is horrible in terms of the charisma factor. I know it shouldn't matter. But I think it does. He's got this "fingernails across the blackboard" whiney voice, acts like a prick, and looks greasy.

We'll see what happens.
You think Harris has any charisma? :suspicious: :lol:

And Harris acts like a coont. Clinton might have been the most unlikeable candidate in our lifetimes, but if its Harris for the donks, she‘ll be to Hillary “Hold my beer“.

‘Looks greasy‘. :suspicious: Da Fuq?
Hilarious. DeSantis has more charisma in his little finger than Biden and Hairy Clamala combined.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:23 pm
JohnStOnge wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:58 pm

I've said that basic thing for a long time. I was involved in Katrina response and Deepwater Horizon response. In my opinion dignitaries coming to scenes just make things more difficult. Yes, they have a job to do. But they don't need to come be physically present where things are going on to do it. Someone like the President or Vice President of the United States is getting all the data they need to make decisions about things regardless of where they physically are. There was no reason for Obama to go fly around looking at Louisiana when the Deepwater Horizon thing was going on. There was no reason for the dignitary I ran around with in a car so they could have photo ops to be down here. Their physical presence contributed nothing. And it's the same thing with Harris going to the border. Her going to the border, regardless of the specific spot, isn't going to give her a better understanding of what's going on at the border.

I just think it's a shame that we have this cultural thing where we think it's SO important for somebody to do something like that when the opposite is the case and I wish one day SOME politician or leader would tell it like it is on this kind of stuff.
It's a manufacturing thing StOnge, called going to Gemba. How are you going to understand the process if you don't see it with your own eyes and talk to the local people affected by the issue?

You really think some schmuck from Washington DC is going to give Kamala the straight story? Do they even understand the story?
Based on personal experience during three major things I was involved in during my lifetime (the third in addition to Katrina and Deepwater Horizon was the Amazon Venture oil spill in Savannah in 1986), my opinion is that talking to the local people is likely to give a dignitary a false perspective if it gives them any perspective at all. You would not BElIEVE some of the nonsense I saw coming from locals during public meetings.

I'd never heard of "Gemba" but I looked it up and I think it's nonsense. To me it's like thinking that, in order to model hurricane trajectories, people who do that need to go stand in the middle of a hurricane. No. They don't.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:23 pm

You really think some schmuck from Washington DC is going to give Kamala the straight story? Do they even understand the story?
I don't know if they would be physically in Washington DC, but I am confident that the Federal Government has analysts who understand the situation way more than anybody Harris is going to talk to by making a visit down there. Visiting is not going to give her a better understanding of the situation. It's just not.
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JohnStOnge wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:03 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:23 pm

It's a manufacturing thing StOnge, called going to Gemba. How are you going to understand the process if you don't see it with your own eyes and talk to the local people affected by the issue?

You really think some schmuck from Washington DC is going to give Kamala the straight story? Do they even understand the story?
Based on personal experience during three major things I was involved in during my lifetime (the third in addition to Katrina and Deepwater Horizon was the Amazon Venture oil spill in Savannah in 1986), my opinion is that talking to the local people is likely to give a dignitary a false perspective if it gives them any perspective at all. You would not BElIEVE some of the nonsense I saw coming from locals during public meetings.

I'd never heard of "Gemba" but I looked it up and I think it's nonsense. To me it's like thinking that, in order to model hurricane trajectories, people who do that need to go stand in the middle of a hurricane. No. They don't.
In fairness to Gemba, I did mention it was a manufacturing thing. While the border isn't a manufacturing process, a lot can be learned from an actual visit.
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JohnStOnge wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:58 pm
Ivytalk wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:40 am

You really should apply for Psaki’s job. You have an excuse for every fuckup that JoeMala make. You’re all in for HR 1, the Infrastructure bill, and higher taxes, so why wait? :dunce:
I've said that basic thing for a long time. I was involved in Katrina response and Deepwater Horizon response. In my opinion dignitaries coming to scenes just make things more difficult. Yes, they have a job to do. But they don't need to come be physically present where things are going on to do it. Someone like the President or Vice President of the United States is getting all the data they need to make decisions about things regardless of where they physically are. There was no reason for Obama to go fly around looking at Louisiana when the Deepwater Horizon thing was going on. There was no reason for the dignitary I ran around with in a car so they could have photo ops to be down here. Their physical presence contributed nothing. And it's the same thing with Harris going to the border. Her going to the border, regardless of the specific spot, isn't going to give her a better understanding of what's going on at the border.

I just think it's a shame that we have this cultural thing where we think it's SO important for somebody to do something like that when the opposite is the case and I wish one day SOME politician or leader would tell it like it is on this kind of stuff.
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New Harvard/Harris poll indicates the VP isn’t doing all that well in voter’s eyes

There’s a bunch of “get woke, go broke” in there

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JohnStOnge wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:47 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:41 am Liberal logic:

Open the borders
Let the criminals out of prison
Encourage open hostility towards anyone wearing a law enforcement uniform
Stoke the flames of racial tension
Defund the police
Take guns away from law abiding citizens

And then BLAME guns on the skyrocketing violence in America's big cities. Seriously, libs....are y'all REALLY that retarded?
My bet would be that people who self-identify as liberals are notably more intelligent, on average, than people who self-identify as conservatives are.
What about those that self-identify as Libertarian? :roll:
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Ibanez wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 5:51 am
JohnStOnge wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:47 pm

My bet would be that people who self-identify as liberals are notably more intelligent, on average, than people who self-identify as conservatives are.
What about those that self-identify as Libertarian? :roll:
They are notably as unrealistic as the purists on either side.
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kalm wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 5:55 am
Ibanez wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 5:51 am

What about those that self-identify as Libertarian? :roll:
They are notably as unrealistic as the purists on either side.
Unrealistic AND rudderless. :coffee:
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SeattleGriz wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:49 am
kalm wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 5:55 am

They are notably as unrealistic as the purists on either side.
Unrealistic AND rudderless. :coffee:
I mean if everyone acted like me I’d be all for it. :mrgreen:
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JohnStOnge wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:47 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:41 am Liberal logic:

Open the borders
Let the criminals out of prison
Encourage open hostility towards anyone wearing a law enforcement uniform
Stoke the flames of racial tension
Defund the police
Take guns away from law abiding citizens

And then BLAME guns on the skyrocketing violence in America's big cities. Seriously, libs....are y'all REALLY that retarded?
My bet would be that people who self-identify as liberals are notably more intelligent, on average, than people who self-identify as conservatives are.
And I’m sure you can pull some “data” out of your arse that would “prove” that. :coffee:

But please don’t. :tothehand:
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The unprecedented Northwest U.S. heat wave that slammed Seattle and Portland, Ore., moved inland Tuesday — prompting an electrical utility in Spokane, Wash., to warn that people will face more rolling blackouts amid heavy power demand.

The intense weather that gave Seattle and Portland consecutive days of record high temperatures far exceeding 100 degrees was expected to ease in those cities. But inland Spokane was likely to surpass Monday's high temperature — a record-tying 105 Fahrenheit.

About 8,200 utility customers in parts of Spokane lost power on Monday and Avista Utilities warned that there will be more rolling blackouts on Tuesday in the city of about 220,000 people with the high temperature predicted at 110 F, which would be an all-time record.
But hey, yeah, lets convert ALL cars to electric by 2025 when we can't produce enough energy to heat and cool our homes.

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AZGrizFan wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:41 am

And then BLAME guns on the skyrocketing violence in America's big cities. Seriously, libs....are y'all REALLY that retarded?
What the heck I'll use that as an excuse to talk about some recreational statistics I did recently. And yes I did it because of the focus on guns.

I got gun ownership rates by country from http://www.smallarmssurvey.org/fileadmi ... annexe.pdf

I got poverty rates by country from https://worldpopulationreview.com/count ... by-country

I got homicide rates by country from https://worldpopulationreview.com/count ... by-country

I used the UN classifications reported at https://www.un.org/en/development/desa/ ... cation.pdf to identify "'developed" nations.

I won't report a whole lot of specific numbers but, as most of you know, an association is "significant" by convention when p < 0.05.

Anyway, did my thing and saw that there is no significant association between gun ownership rate and homicide rate either for all nations (p = 0.6843) or for developed nations (p = 0.2015). Poverty rate is a different matter. For poverty rate vs. homicide rate it's p = 0.001 for all nations and p <0.0001 for developed nations.

I WILL say that I was able to find an "effect" of gun ownership rate among developed nations when I "controlled" for poverty rate. When I "controlled" for poverty rate among developed nations I got p = 0.0023 for gun ownership rate. So there is that. Didn't work that way for all nations. When I considered all nations and "controlled" for poverty rate I got p = 0.3218 for gun ownership rate.

Someone sick enough to be interested in such things (as I am) can look at various individual comparisons that make it clear it's not as simple as "more guns mean more homicides." For example: Among developed countries, the United States has the highest gun ownership rate and the second highest homicide rate. But the developed country that has the highest homicide rate, Mali, has the second lowest gun ownership rate. 1.1 guns per 100 population as compared to 120.5 for the United States.

Poverty rate is clearly a FAR more important factor. In that regard, seeing that the United States has a relatively high poverty rate among developed nations surprised me. The United States poverty rate is 12th highest among 34 developed nations for which poverty rates are reported.
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Ivytalk wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:39 am
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My bet would be that people who self-identify as liberals are notably more intelligent, on average, than people who self-identify as conservatives are.
And I’m sure you can pull some “data” out of your arse that would “prove” that. :coffee:

But please don’t. :tothehand:
There actually are articles on that but since you asked me not to I won't cite them other than to say that a guy who published on it later got in trouble with...you guessed it...liberals. Otherwise I would say it is just what one would reasonably expect. All I said is that would be my bet. Think about it and I think you'd make the same bet if you had to bet.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:38 am https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/rol ... -heat-wave
The unprecedented Northwest U.S. heat wave that slammed Seattle and Portland, Ore., moved inland Tuesday — prompting an electrical utility in Spokane, Wash., to warn that people will face more rolling blackouts amid heavy power demand.

The intense weather that gave Seattle and Portland consecutive days of record high temperatures far exceeding 100 degrees was expected to ease in those cities. But inland Spokane was likely to surpass Monday's high temperature — a record-tying 105 Fahrenheit.

About 8,200 utility customers in parts of Spokane lost power on Monday and Avista Utilities warned that there will be more rolling blackouts on Tuesday in the city of about 220,000 people with the high temperature predicted at 110 F, which would be an all-time record.
But hey, yeah, lets convert ALL cars to electric by 2025 when we can't produce enough energy to heat and cool our homes.

Fucking retards, the lot of 'em.
Bro, CA politicos have been pimping electric cars...

...only to tell electric car owners not to charge their cars at night to help reduce black/brownouts. I shit you not. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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"limited exceptions" :rofl:

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