AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:41 am
And then BLAME guns on the skyrocketing violence in America's big cities. Seriously, libs....are y'all REALLY that retarded?
What the heck I'll use that as an excuse to talk about some recreational statistics I did recently. And yes I did it because of the focus on guns.
I got gun ownership rates by country from
http://www.smallarmssurvey.org/fileadmi ... annexe.pdf
I got poverty rates by country from
https://worldpopulationreview.com/count ... by-country
I got homicide rates by country from
https://worldpopulationreview.com/count ... by-country
I used the UN classifications reported at
https://www.un.org/en/development/desa/ ... cation.pdf to identify "'developed" nations.
I won't report a whole lot of specific numbers but, as most of you know, an association is "significant" by convention when p
< 0.05.
Anyway, did my thing and saw that there is no significant association between gun ownership rate and homicide rate either for all nations (p = 0.6843) or for developed nations (p = 0.2015). Poverty rate is a different matter. For poverty rate vs. homicide rate it's p = 0.001 for all nations and p <0.0001 for developed nations.
I WILL say that I was able to find an "effect" of gun ownership rate among developed nations when I "controlled" for poverty rate. When I "controlled" for poverty rate among developed nations I got p = 0.0023 for gun ownership rate. So there is that. Didn't work that way for all nations. When I considered all nations and "controlled" for poverty rate I got p = 0.3218 for gun ownership rate.
Someone sick enough to be interested in such things (as I am) can look at various individual comparisons that make it clear it's not as simple as "more guns mean more homicides." For example: Among developed countries, the United States has the highest gun ownership rate and the second highest homicide rate. But the developed country that has the highest homicide rate, Mali, has the second lowest gun ownership rate. 1.1 guns per 100 population as compared to 120.5 for the United States.
Poverty rate is clearly a FAR more important factor. In that regard, seeing that the United States has a relatively high poverty rate among developed nations surprised me. The United States poverty rate is 12th highest among 34 developed nations for which poverty rates are reported.