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Welcome to 2008.

When the market inevitably crashes, the Conks will get the blame again. :nod:

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2021/ ... ssion=true
Democrats are pushing to spend billions of dollars to help first-time homebuyers afford down payments, setting up a clash with industry groups and GOP lawmakers, who are warning about racial targeting of the aid and risks to the housing market.

A $10 billion proposal by House Financial Services Chair Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) would give homebuyers up to $25,000 for a down payment. President Joe Biden’s top housing official, HUD Secretary Marcia Fudge, says such assistance is a priority for the administration.
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Baldy wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 8:04 am Welcome to 2008.

When the market inevitably crashes, the Conks will get the blame again. :nod:

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2021/ ... ssion=true
Democrats are pushing to spend billions of dollars to help first-time homebuyers afford down payments, setting up a clash with industry groups and GOP lawmakers, who are warning about racial targeting of the aid and risks to the housing market.

A $10 billion proposal by House Financial Services Chair Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) would give homebuyers up to $25,000 for a down payment. President Joe Biden’s top housing official, HUD Secretary Marcia Fudge, says such assistance is a priority for the administration.
I’m guessing those with access and a healthy campaign funding budget are pushing this. It’s not as if the Dems aren’t cozy with big finance. It will be profitable for someone.

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kalm wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 8:19 am
Baldy wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 8:04 am Welcome to 2008.

When the market inevitably crashes, the Conks will get the blame again. :nod:

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2021/ ... ssion=true

I’m guessing those with access and a healthy campaign funding budget are pushing this. It’s not as if the Dems aren’t cozy with big finance. It will be profitable for someone.

:nod:
Just like what we did with college financing. If people can now get "X" amount of direct government help with downpayments or other costs, strangely and mysteriously the cost of those things goes up pretty much close to "X". So the "X" goes directly to the person in charge of the cost, and too bad to all the people who don't get that "X" in assistance because now they're paying the bumped up price as well. If only we could predict that this will happen. :roll:
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GannonFan wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 8:39 am
kalm wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 8:19 am

I’m guessing those with access and a healthy campaign funding budget are pushing this. It’s not as if the Dems aren’t cozy with big finance. It will be profitable for someone.

:nod:
Just like what we did with college financing. If people can now get "X" amount of direct government help with downpayments or other costs, strangely and mysteriously the cost of those things goes up pretty much close to "X". So the "X" goes directly to the person in charge of the cost, and too bad to all the people who don't get that "X" in assistance because now they're paying the bumped up price as well. If only we could predict that this will happen. :roll:
Yep! And it occurs on the local level as well. Legalized corruption. Politicians are rubber stamp actors.
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Baldy wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 8:04 am Welcome to 2008.

When the market inevitably crashes, the Conks will get the blame again. :nod:

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2021/ ... ssion=true
Democrats are pushing to spend billions of dollars to help first-time homebuyers afford down payments, setting up a clash with industry groups and GOP lawmakers, who are warning about racial targeting of the aid and risks to the housing market.

A $10 billion proposal by House Financial Services Chair Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) would give homebuyers up to $25,000 for a down payment. President Joe Biden’s top housing official, HUD Secretary Marcia Fudge, says such assistance is a priority for the administration.
If there are any conservatives left.....

But how can you verify someone would be a 1st Generation home buyer? What if your grandparents owned a home but your parents didn't...do you qualify? That's the biggest headache / problem they'll likely have. Plus..you give someone $25k for a down payment - are there also income / job qualifications that have to be met? $25k is great but I can see a rush to get this money by people who can barely afford rent. Now they're going to own homes and all the extra's that come with it (insurance, taxes, maintenance, lawn upkeep, etc...)
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kalm wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 8:42 am
GannonFan wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 8:39 am

Just like what we did with college financing. If people can now get "X" amount of direct government help with downpayments or other costs, strangely and mysteriously the cost of those things goes up pretty much close to "X". So the "X" goes directly to the person in charge of the cost, and too bad to all the people who don't get that "X" in assistance because now they're paying the bumped up price as well. If only we could predict that this will happen. :roll:
Yep! And it occurs on the local level as well. Legalized corruption. Politicians are rubber stamp actors.
They don't have to be. As well meaning as some of these actions are - and I'm not convinced it's always corrupt, I think politicians sometimes genuinely think "hey, let's give $5000 in assistance to everyone to help with paying for college" and they don't comprehend how this will actually work out and that they just gave the green light to colleges to raise their costs by $5k - I think politicians sometimes get lazy and just want to grab a headline and not have to think through the details of what they're proposing. So not corruption, per se, although I'm sure that exists aplenty, but just a consequence of our political culture and who it attracts - we don't really have that many politicians who are capable of handling the mental side of really legislating and, as we've said before, they don't have the time anyway because they're constantly running for re-election. If only we could come up with something like term limits or something like that. :coffee:
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kalm wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 8:19 am
Baldy wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 8:04 am Welcome to 2008.

When the market inevitably crashes, the Conks will get the blame again. :nod:

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2021/ ... ssion=true

I’m guessing those with access and a healthy campaign funding budget are pushing this. It’s not as if the Dems aren’t cozy with big finance. It will be profitable for someone.

:nod:
All true, but I'll be willing to bet that not a single Conk will vote for this piece of legislation.
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GannonFan wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 8:54 am
kalm wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 8:42 am

Yep! And it occurs on the local level as well. Legalized corruption. Politicians are rubber stamp actors.
They don't have to be. As well meaning as some of these actions are - and I'm not convinced it's always corrupt, I think politicians sometimes genuinely think "hey, let's give $5000 in assistance to everyone to help with paying for college" and they don't comprehend how this will actually work out and that they just gave the green light to colleges to raise their costs by $5k - I think politicians sometimes get lazy and just want to grab a headline and not have to think through the details of what they're proposing. So not corruption, per se, although I'm sure that exists aplenty, but just a consequence of our political culture and who it attracts - we don't really have that many politicians who are capable of handling the mental side of really legislating and, as we've said before, they don't have the time anyway because they're constantly running for re-election. If only we could come up with something like term limits or something like that. :coffee:
You THINK? Never, in the history of ever, has any politician thought through the details of what they’re proposing. Altruistic or not.
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Ibanez wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 8:45 am
Baldy wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 8:04 am Welcome to 2008.

When the market inevitably crashes, the Conks will get the blame again. :nod:

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2021/ ... ssion=true

If there are any conservatives left.....

But how can you verify someone would be a 1st Generation home buyer? What if your grandparents owned a home but your parents didn't...do you qualify? That's the biggest headache / problem they'll likely have. Plus..you give someone $25k for a down payment - are there also income / job qualifications that have to be met? $25k is great but I can see a rush to get this money by people who can barely afford rent. Now they're going to own homes and all the extra's that come with it (insurance, taxes, maintenance, lawn upkeep, etc...)
All that will happen is homes will cost $25,000 more than they did yesterday. It ain’t rocket science.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 10:12 am
Ibanez wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 8:45 am
If there are any conservatives left.....

But how can you verify someone would be a 1st Generation home buyer? What if your grandparents owned a home but your parents didn't...do you qualify? That's the biggest headache / problem they'll likely have. Plus..you give someone $25k for a down payment - are there also income / job qualifications that have to be met? $25k is great but I can see a rush to get this money by people who can barely afford rent. Now they're going to own homes and all the extra's that come with it (insurance, taxes, maintenance, lawn upkeep, etc...)
All that will happen is homes will cost $25,000 more than they did yesterday. It ain’t rocket science.
And then mortgage defaults will go up. :coffee:
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Ibanez wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 10:34 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 10:12 am

All that will happen is homes will cost $25,000 more than they did yesterday. It ain’t rocket science.
And then mortgage defaults will go up. :coffee:
Yep. And then the left will clamor for mortgage relief and paying off people’s mortgages. :dunce: :dunce:
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Rino's gonna Rino. :lol:

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GannonFan wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 8:39 am
kalm wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 8:19 am

I’m guessing those with access and a healthy campaign funding budget are pushing this. It’s not as if the Dems aren’t cozy with big finance. It will be profitable for someone.

:nod:
Just like what we did with college financing. If people can now get "X" amount of direct government help with downpayments or other costs, strangely and mysteriously the cost of those things goes up pretty much close to "X". So the "X" goes directly to the person in charge of the cost, and too bad to all the people who don't get that "X" in assistance because now they're paying the bumped up price as well. If only we could predict that this will happen. :roll:
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AZGrizFan wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 3:22 pm
Ibanez wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 10:34 am

And then mortgage defaults will go up. :coffee:
Yep. And then the left will clamor for mortgage relief and paying off people’s mortgages. :dunce: :dunce:
:nod: It's a vicious circle.
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Biden and Putin to discuss rights in the US and Russia that ought to go over well...for Putin.

If the talks go anywhere like Blinken's talk with China, where he absolutely got his ass handed to him, this will get buried by the media as well. In addition to the quote below, I'm sure the topic of how racist the US is, will come up.

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Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov told reporters on Monday that Moscow would not shy away from discussing any issue at the summit and Putin could raise the January 6 protests in support of Biden's predecessor Donald Trump.

"Of course, we will be ready to discuss everything, including problems that exist in the United States," Lavrov told reporters. He said Russia was monitoring the "persecution" of those behind the January 6 riot at the US Capitol.
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SeattleGriz wrote:Biden and Putin to discuss rights in the US and Russia that ought to go over well...for Putin.

If the talks go anywhere like Blinken's talk with China, where he absolutely got his ass handed to him, this will get buried by the media as well. In addition to the quote below, I'm sure the topic of how racist the US is, will come up.

https://www.barrons.com/news/putin-read ... 1622464814
Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov told reporters on Monday that Moscow would not shy away from discussing any issue at the summit and Putin could raise the January 6 protests in support of Biden's predecessor Donald Trump.

"Of course, we will be ready to discuss everything, including problems that exist in the United States," Lavrov told reporters. He said Russia was monitoring the "persecution" of those behind the January 6 riot at the US Capitol.
Anyone who understands China knows that the Alaska meeting was nothing more than theater, and Blinken did not get his ass handed to him

The very fact of us allowing the meeting to go forward with those low level non-Politburo members was a mistake, though

It was the age old Chinese tactic of sending low level civil servants out to delay the British, who then resorted to some good ol gunboat diplomacy


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CID1990 wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:54 pm
SeattleGriz wrote:Biden and Putin to discuss rights in the US and Russia that ought to go over well...for Putin.

If the talks go anywhere like Blinken's talk with China, where he absolutely got his ass handed to him, this will get buried by the media as well. In addition to the quote below, I'm sure the topic of how racist the US is, will come up.

https://www.barrons.com/news/putin-read ... 1622464814
Anyone who understands China knows that the Alaska meeting was nothing more than theater, and Blinken did not get his ass handed to him

The very fact of us allowing the meeting to go forward with those low level non-Politburo members was a mistake, though

It was the age old Chinese tactic of sending low level civil servants out to delay the British, who then resorted to some good ol gunboat diplomacy


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Stop wrecking my "Biden is inept" narrative. :lol:. Remember how Biden almost caused the Ukrainians to go to war with Russia? Same thing.
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CID1990 wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:54 pm Anyone who understands China knows that the Alaska meeting was nothing more than theater, and Blinken did not get his ass handed to him

The very fact of us allowing the meeting to go forward with those low level non-Politburo members was a mistake, though

It was the age old Chinese tactic of sending low level civil servants out to delay the British, who then resorted to some good ol gunboat diplomacy


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Stop wrecking my "Biden is inept" narrative. :lol:. Remember how Biden almost caused the Ukrainians to go to war with Russia? Same thing.
Well, having the meeting in the first place was a further display of a lack of cultural/historical awareness by our political leaders. And neither Dem not GOP administrations have had a monopoly on that particular brand of ignorance.

But Blinken is the smartest, most substantive SecState we have had since Condi Rice or Madeline Allbright and he handled himself pretty well given that the entire meeting was designed for TV consumption by Chinese citizens.


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The latest evidence that we’re living in 1692 Salem was the manufactured outrage about “Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt” star Ellie Kemper, a gifted actress who is guilty of absolutely nothing.


Kemper was defamed in a sordid tale of guilt by association, but no one’s reputation survives if we play that game. Hey, are you carrying a New York state driver’s license? Did you know the slave trade continued in this state as late as the 1850s? Hell, the guy the state is named after, the Duke of York, was a slave trader. Why are you carrying a salute to a racist in your wallet, racist?

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Wokeness is upending the medical field-

https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/what-h ... cant-speak


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CID1990 wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:44 am Wokeness is upending the medical field-

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BDKJMU wrote:North Face- leftist hypocrites.

North Face turns back on Texas oil and gas company, refuses jacket order
https://www.nbc12.com/2020/12/11/north- ... ket-order/
Oil and gas industry trolls North Face with new billboard campaign

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Winterborn wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 6:07 am
CID1990 wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:44 am Wokeness is upending the medical field-

https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/what-h ... cant-speak


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This has officially jumped the shark (a racist shark, I’m sure)....They’re coming after you next, Dback....

https://www.foxnews.com/media/washingto ... rent-birds

According to The Washington Post, it's hunting season for cancel culture and its latest targets are "racist" birds.

The Post ran an expansive report on Thursday, titled "The racist legacy many birds carry," focused on the "birding community," which apparently is having a difficult debate "about the names of species connected to enslavers, supremacists and grave robbers."

"Corina Newsome is a Black ornithologist, as rare as some of the birds she studies," Post environmental justice reporter Darryl Fears began his piece, noting she was hired to "break down barriers" at the Georgia Audubon nature preserve.


"But overcoming those barriers will be daunting. As with the wider field of conservation, racism and colonialism are in ornithology’s DNA, indelibly linked to its origin story. The challenge of how to move forward is roiling White ornithologists as they debate whether to change as many as 150 eponyms, names of birds that honor people with connections to slavery and supremacy."
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