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kalm wrote: Sun Jan 31, 2021 6:47 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:48 pm

What MTG said was reprehensible and it's definitely bad for the Republican Party for her to remain in the spotlight.

People have less of a problem with punching sideways or up than down but they're also more likely to overlook or rationalize inflammatory statements and actions by people they agree or sympathize with.

Has AOChe not encouraged/supported the BLM/AnTiFa rioters? Have they not targeted white elites (in restaurants, outside their homes, etc.)?
I’m sure she encouraged/supported protestors. Don’t remember her doing the same with rioters. Or that she encouraged confrontation against any specific color. Could be wrong though.
Well, the Somalian encouraged confrontation against the Jews.
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Re: The Official "Making America Woke Again" Thread

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BDKJMU wrote: Sun Jan 31, 2021 9:44 pm
kalm wrote: Sun Jan 31, 2021 6:47 pm
I’m sure she encouraged/supported protestors. Don’t remember her doing the same with rioters. Or that she encouraged confrontation against any specific color. Could be wrong though.
Well, the Somalian encouraged confrontation against the Jews.
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Omar and the Squat's antisemitism is another thing.

Anyone who called the protests "mostly peaceful" while cities were burning was rationalizing and defending the actions of the less peaceful protesters. Focusing on whether AOChe's words encouraged specific actions of the protesters is deflecting from the truth that supporting the protests without condemning the rioting and looting was de facto support for the rioters. I'm sorry if that reality makes Kalm "uncomfortable".
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UNI88 wrote: Sun Jan 31, 2021 10:54 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Sun Jan 31, 2021 9:44 pm
Well, the Somalian encouraged confrontation against the Jews. .
Omar and the Squat's antisemitism is another thing.

Anyone who called the protests "mostly peaceful" while cities were burning was rationalizing and defending the actions of the less peaceful protesters. Focusing on whether AOChe's words encouraged specific actions of the protesters is deflecting from the truth that supporting the protests without condemning the rioting and looting was de facto support for the rioters. I'm sorry if that reality makes Kalm "uncomfortable".
Hey, man. Reading a fellow Republican’s satire on MGT and immediately pivoting to AOC is your discomfort game. I was merely trying to kindly help you out. :lol:

I read a little on AOC’s thoughts on the riots. They reminded me of my own regarding defunding the police. My first thought was ‘man is that some poor branding.’ Next thought was ‘but I suppose asking for “police reform” was already tried, and hadn’t really solved much. It’s not all that surprising that the ante was raised.’

To carry your logic further, condemning AOC for not denouncing violence enough (btw, she did not condone the violence) without recognizing the causes of the civil unrest must represent de facto support for police violence.

Ghandi wanted to make the British “uncomfortable.” Ghandi must have been a violence supporting terrorist?
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BDKJMU wrote: Sun Jan 31, 2021 9:44 pm
kalm wrote: Sun Jan 31, 2021 6:47 pm

I’m sure she encouraged/supported protestors. Don’t remember her doing the same with rioters. Or that she encouraged confrontation against any specific color. Could be wrong though.
Well, the Somalian encouraged confrontation against the Jews.
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I know they all sort of look the same to some, but....that’s not AOC.

Here’s Omar’s quotes in context, her apologies (I’m sure MTG will quickly take the high road here rather than double down... :lol: ), and why Omar’s own chosen words are part of the problem.
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kalm wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 6:02 am
UNI88 wrote: Sun Jan 31, 2021 10:54 pm

Omar and the Squat's antisemitism is another thing.

Anyone who called the protests "mostly peaceful" while cities were burning was rationalizing and defending the actions of the less peaceful protesters. Focusing on whether AOChe's words encouraged specific actions of the protesters is deflecting from the truth that supporting the protests without condemning the rioting and looting was de facto support for the rioters. I'm sorry if that reality makes Kalm "uncomfortable".
Hey, man. Reading a fellow Republican’s satire on MGT and immediately pivoting to AOC is your discomfort game. I was merely trying to kindly help you out. :lol:

I read a little on AOC’s thoughts on the riots. They reminded me of my own regarding defunding the police. My first thought was ‘man is that some poor branding.’ Next thought was ‘but I suppose asking for “police reform” was already tried, and hadn’t really solved much. It’s not all that surprising that the ante was raised.’

To carry your logic further, condemning AOC for not denouncing violence enough (btw, she did not condone the violence) without recognizing the causes of the civil unrest must represent de facto support for police violence.

Ghandi wanted to make the British “uncomfortable.” Ghandi must have been a violence supporting terrorist?
Hmmm.....”raising the ante”. Making the government “uncomfortable”. What a concept. :coffee: :coffee:
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Re: The Official "Making America Woke Again" Thread

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AZGrizFan wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:20 am
kalm wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 6:02 am

Hey, man. Reading a fellow Republican’s satire on MGT and immediately pivoting to AOC is your discomfort game. I was merely trying to kindly help you out. :lol:

I read a little on AOC’s thoughts on the riots. They reminded me of my own regarding defunding the police. My first thought was ‘man is that some poor branding.’ Next thought was ‘but I suppose asking for “police reform” was already tried, and hadn’t really solved much. It’s not all that surprising that the ante was raised.’

To carry your logic further, condemning AOC for not denouncing violence enough (btw, she did not condone the violence) without recognizing the causes of the civil unrest must represent de facto support for police violence.

Ghandi wanted to make the British “uncomfortable.” Ghandi must have been a violence supporting terrorist?
Hmmm.....”raising the ante”. Making the government “uncomfortable”. What a concept. :coffee: :coffee:
Glad you agree with me. :thumb:
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kalm wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 6:02 am
UNI88 wrote: Sun Jan 31, 2021 10:54 pm
Omar and the Squat's antisemitism is another thing.

Anyone who called the protests "mostly peaceful" while cities were burning was rationalizing and defending the actions of the less peaceful protesters. Focusing on whether AOChe's words encouraged specific actions of the protesters is deflecting from the truth that supporting the protests without condemning the rioting and looting was de facto support for the rioters. I'm sorry if that reality makes Kalm "uncomfortable".
Hey, man. Reading a fellow Republican’s satire on MGT and immediately pivoting to AOC is your discomfort game. I was merely trying to kindly help you out. :lol:

I read a little on AOC’s thoughts on the riots. They reminded me of my own regarding defunding the police. My first thought was ‘man is that some poor branding.’ Next thought was ‘but I suppose asking for “police reform” was already tried, and hadn’t really solved much. It’s not all that surprising that the ante was raised.’

To carry your logic further, condemning AOC for not denouncing violence enough (btw, she did not condone the violence) without recognizing the causes of the civil unrest must represent de facto support for police violence.

Ghandi wanted to make the British “uncomfortable.” Ghandi must have been a violence supporting terrorist?
To carry your logic further the peaceful protesting about the election results hadn't worked for the MAGAts who stormed the Capitol so you shouldn't be surprised that the ante was raised.

AOChe has made herself a major voice for the pseudo-progressives and she is representative of them. She has a few good ideas and a lot of stupid ones.

You think Trump is a traitor for saying things that encouraged the Capitol protesters who went on to riot but it was ok for AOOChe and other liberals to say things that encouraged the BLM/AnTiFa protesters who went on to riot. I think they're all poor excuses for leaders.
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UNI88 wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:06 am
kalm wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 6:02 am

Hey, man. Reading a fellow Republican’s satire on MGT and immediately pivoting to AOC is your discomfort game. I was merely trying to kindly help you out. :lol:

I read a little on AOC’s thoughts on the riots. They reminded me of my own regarding defunding the police. My first thought was ‘man is that some poor branding.’ Next thought was ‘but I suppose asking for “police reform” was already tried, and hadn’t really solved much. It’s not all that surprising that the ante was raised.’

To carry your logic further, condemning AOC for not denouncing violence enough (btw, she did not condone the violence) without recognizing the causes of the civil unrest must represent de facto support for police violence.

Ghandi wanted to make the British “uncomfortable.” Ghandi must have been a violence supporting terrorist?
To carry your logic further the peaceful protesting about the election results hadn't worked for the MAGAts who stormed the Capitol so you shouldn't be surprised that the ante was raised.

AOChe has made herself a major voice for the pseudo-progressives and she is representative of them. She has a few good ideas and a lot of stupid ones.

You think Trump is a traitor for saying things that encouraged the Capitol protesters who went on to riot but it was ok for AOOChe and other liberals to say things that encouraged the BLM/AnTiFa protesters who went on to riot. I think they're all poor excuses for leaders.
I’m not all that surprised the ante was raised by Ya’ll Queda. In fact I suspected a decent chance of more violence from the losing side. But I’ll admit to being lulled back into a sense of calm once the Trump fraud arguments became so apparently stupid.

However, the two are not the same for some obvious reasons.
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kalm wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:26 am
UNI88 wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:06 am

To carry your logic further the peaceful protesting about the election results hadn't worked for the MAGAts who stormed the Capitol so you shouldn't be surprised that the ante was raised.

AOChe has made herself a major voice for the pseudo-progressives and she is representative of them. She has a few good ideas and a lot of stupid ones.

You think Trump is a traitor for saying things that encouraged the Capitol protesters who went on to riot but it was ok for AOOChe and other liberals to say things that encouraged the BLM/AnTiFa protesters who went on to riot. I think they're all poor excuses for leaders.
I’m not all that surprised the ante was raised by Ya’ll Queda. In fact I suspected a decent chance of more violence from the losing side. But I’ll admit to being lulled back into a sense of calm once the Trump fraud arguments became so apparently stupid.

However, the two are not the same for some obvious reasons.
Aren’t they? :coffee: :coffee:
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AZGrizFan wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:28 am
kalm wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:26 am

I’m not all that surprised the ante was raised by Ya’ll Queda. In fact I suspected a decent chance of more violence from the losing side. But I’ll admit to being lulled back into a sense of calm once the Trump fraud arguments became so apparently stupid.

However, the two are not the same for some obvious reasons.
Aren’t they? :coffee: :coffee:
No. They aren’t. :thumb:
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AZGrizFan wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:28 am
kalm wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:26 am
I’m not all that surprised the ante was raised by Ya’ll Queda. In fact I suspected a decent chance of more violence from the losing side. But I’ll admit to being lulled back into a sense of calm once the Trump fraud arguments became so apparently stupid.

However, the two are not the same for some obvious reasons.
Aren’t they? :coffee: :coffee:
No they're not exactly the same. Kalm insists on using differences to dismiss the similarities and corresponding hypocrisy because it fits the narrative that he supports. BDK engages in the same kind of nitpicking when defending Trump.
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kalm wrote: Sun Jan 31, 2021 6:47 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:48 pm

What MTG said was reprehensible and it's definitely bad for the Republican Party for her to remain in the spotlight.

People have less of a problem with punching sideways or up than down but they're also more likely to overlook or rationalize inflammatory statements and actions by people they agree or sympathize with.

Has AOChe not encouraged/supported the BLM/AnTiFa rioters? Have they not targeted white elites (in restaurants, outside their homes, etc.)?
I’m sure she encouraged/supported protestors. Don’t remember her doing the same with rioters. Or that she encouraged confrontation against any specific color. Could be wrong though.
She never disavowed that guy in the PNW that died trying to blow up a gubmint facility. His manifest claimed he was inspired by AOChe's (stealing that one UNI) rhetoric.
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UNI88 wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:07 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:28 am

Aren’t they? :coffee: :coffee:
No they're not exactly the same. Kalm insists on using differences to dismiss the similarities and corresponding hypocrisy because it fits the narrative that he supports. BDK engages in the same kind of nitpicking when defending Trump.
Kalm's and BDK's mental gymnastics on this issue are quite the spectacle.
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UNI88 wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:07 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:28 am

Aren’t they? :coffee: :coffee:
No they're not exactly the same. Kalm insists on using differences to dismiss the similarities and corresponding hypocrisy because it fits the narrative that he supports. BDK engages in the same kind of nitpicking when defending Trump.
One has been far more prevalent in modern American culture and IMO less of a threat to national unity and democracy than the other. This where centrist orthodoxy is narrow minded. The two sides of the spectrum, or as you suggest, "narrative" aren't even fighting the same battle for fucks sake.
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kalm wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:43 am
UNI88 wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:07 am
No they're not exactly the same. Kalm insists on using differences to dismiss the similarities and corresponding hypocrisy because it fits the narrative that he supports. BDK engages in the same kind of nitpicking when defending Trump.
One has been far more prevalent in modern American culture and IMO less of a threat to national unity and democracy than the other. This where centrist orthodoxy is narrow minded. The two sides of the spectrum, or as you suggest, "narrative" aren't even fighting the same battle for fucks sake.
Interesting on several levels. One, it could be argued that Ya'll Qaeda is far more prevalent in modern American culture but I'm not sure if it less of a threat to national unity and democracy. Two, IMO our differences are a huge part of what has made us great so "national unity" isn't necessarily a good thing. Finally, we're a republic not a democracy, minority opinions matter (MOM) too. :coffee:
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kalm wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 6:15 am
BDKJMU wrote: Sun Jan 31, 2021 9:44 pm
Well, the Somalian encouraged confrontation against the Jews. .
I know they all sort of look the same to some, but....that’s not AOC.

Here’s Omar’s quotes in context, her apologies (I’m sure MTG will quickly take the high road here rather than double down... :lol: ), and why Omar’s own chosen words are part of the problem.
I knw it wasn't AOChe. That's why I said "the Somalian". The members of the Squat are interchangeable..
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Everyone knew American democracy wouldn't end with Trump except for liberal scholars living in a bubble and leftist wackos. It's pointless to try and compare "threat to democracy" from both sides.

But if I have to choose between Trump ostensibly trading weapons for political favors versus swampy donks and Janet Yellen taking bribes from Wall Street in the form of speaking fees I'll take Trump's brand of corruption and I care little which one is legal.
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WTF was she doing in in WV? And notice she didn't inform Manchin that she was travelling to his state. :suspicious: He said he knew nothing about it, and sounded pissed. Manchin:
“I saw [the interview], I couldn’t believe it. No one called me [about it]. We’re going to try to find a bipartisan pathway forward, but we need to work together. That’s not a way of working together.”
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kalm wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:43 am
UNI88 wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:07 am

No they're not exactly the same. Kalm insists on using differences to dismiss the similarities and corresponding hypocrisy because it fits the narrative that he supports. BDK engages in the same kind of nitpicking when defending Trump.
One has been far more prevalent in modern American culture and IMO less of a threat to national unity and democracy than the other. This where centrist orthodoxy is narrow minded. The two sides of the spectrum, or as you suggest, "narrative" aren't even fighting the same battle for fucks sake.
Aren’t they? :coffee: :coffee:

Think about it for a hot minute....
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AZGrizFan wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:35 pm
kalm wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:43 am

One has been far more prevalent in modern American culture and IMO less of a threat to national unity and democracy than the other. This where centrist orthodoxy is narrow minded. The two sides of the spectrum, or as you suggest, "narrative" aren't even fighting the same battle for fucks sake.
Aren’t they? :coffee: :coffee:

Think about it for a hot minute....
There are bound to be some similarities but in the more recent battles, no. Racially driven police violence is not the same fight as stopping a worldwide pedojew ring with freaking lazer beams.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... or-greene/
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Pwns wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 11:31 am Everyone knew American democracy wouldn't end with Trump except for liberal scholars living in a bubble and leftist wackos. It's pointless to try and compare "threat to democracy" from both sides.

But if I have to choose between Trump ostensibly trading weapons for political favors versus swampy donks and Janet Yellen taking bribes from Wall Street in the form of speaking fees I'll take Trump's brand of corruption and I care little which one is legal.
There are around 15-20 million Trump followers who hoped it would end. At least the more recent version of American Democracy that’s attempting to be a little kinder.

As for Yellen...welcome to American politics! :lol:

I suppose you weren’t a fan of Loeffler and Perdue?
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kalm wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:19 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:35 pm
Aren’t they? :coffee: :coffee:

Think about it for a hot minute....
There are bound to be some similarities but in the more recent battles, no. Racially driven police violence is not the same fight as stopping a worldwide pedojew ring with freaking lazer beams.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... or-greene/
Is there racially driven police violence? Yes. Is it a huge problem? There is quite a bit of statistical data that says it isn't.

Are there members of the alt-right who have bought into the Qanon conspiracy BS? Yes. Are they the majority? I don't know. I'm pretty sure that there a lot of people on the right who feel that their government is more interested in feathering their own nests and perpetuating the myth that big government is good than they are in actually leading this country. Supporting Trump was an FU to the big government types.

Enablers keep throwing up MTG and her ilk to shine the spotlight away from some of the legitimate concerns of Trump supporters and the failings of big government.
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UNI88 wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:02 am
kalm wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:19 am

There are bound to be some similarities but in the more recent battles, no. Racially driven police violence is not the same fight as stopping a worldwide pedojew ring with freaking lazer beams.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... or-greene/
Is there racially driven police violence? Yes. Is it a huge problem? There is quite a bit of statistical data that says it isn't.

Are there members of the alt-right who have bought into the Qanon conspiracy BS? Yes. Are they the majority? I don't know. I'm pretty sure that there a lot of people on the right who feel that their government is more interested in feathering their own nests and perpetuating the myth that big government is good than they are in actually leading this country. Supporting Trump was an FU to the big government types.

Enablers keep throwing up MTG and her ilk to shine the spotlight away from some of the legitimate concerns of Trump supporters and the failings of big government.
Enablers? Who are the enablers and what are they enabling?

:suspicious:

As for the rest, something, something...and Mussolini trains on time.

Whether you think police violence is a legit concern or not, civil unrest over that is a different battle than accepting electoral defeat.
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kalm wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:19 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:35 pm

Aren’t they? :coffee: :coffee:

Think about it for a hot minute....
There are bound to be some similarities but in the more recent battles, no. Racially driven police violence is not the same fight as stopping a worldwide pedojew ring with freaking lazer beams.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... or-greene/
Come on, klammy. You’re smarter than that. What’s gone on this past 10 months has gone SO far beyond “racially driven police violence” as to be almost comical. That is NOT what ANTIFA/BLM protesting/rioting is about anymore.

Both sides think the OTHER side is fascist, Nazi, etc., etc. Both sides think the country’s future is at stake if they don’t act. Both sides use questionable decision-making and tactics to get their point across. Both sides are “mostly peaceful” with breakouts of violence. Both sides think they’re saving the republic.

At the end of the day, there are way more similarities than differences. Just depends on which side you agree with. :coffee:
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Re: The Official "Making America Woke Again" Thread

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kalm wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:26 am
Pwns wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 11:31 am Everyone knew American democracy wouldn't end with Trump except for liberal scholars living in a bubble and leftist wackos. It's pointless to try and compare "threat to democracy" from both sides.

But if I have to choose between Trump ostensibly trading weapons for political favors versus swampy donks and Janet Yellen taking bribes from Wall Street in the form of speaking fees I'll take Trump's brand of corruption and I care little which one is legal.
There are around 15-20 million Trump followers who hoped it would end. At least the more recent version of American Democracy that’s attempting to be a little kinder.

As for Yellen...welcome to American politics! :lol:

I suppose you weren’t a fan of Loeffler and Perdue?
You know 15-20 million Trump followers and what they think? :shock: :shock:
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