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https://www.mediaite.com/trump/house-re ... eir-lives/Wednesday morning on CNN, Jamie Gangel reported that members of the House GOP caucus are still operating under “tremendous pressure” from Trump and are still being “scared and intimidated” by the president. Gangel shared a conversation she had with an anonymous House conservative — who said that the GOP caucus currently feels grave threats to their safety.
“They fear for their lives, and for their family’s lives,” the unnamed Congressional Republican told Gangel.
Politico’s Tim Alberta reported that there are Republicans who would like to vote in favor of Trump’s impeachment, but are concerned that doing so will put them in harms way.
“Numerous House Rs have received death threats in the past week, and I know for a fact several members *want* to impeach but fear casting that vote could get them or their families murdered,” Alberta tweeted Wednesday.
Believe what, that Trump is pressuring them to vote a certain way or that Trump is threatening to kill their families?Ibanez wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:45 amhttps://www.mediaite.com/trump/house-re ... eir-lives/Wednesday morning on CNN, Jamie Gangel reported that members of the House GOP caucus are still operating under “tremendous pressure” from Trump and are still being “scared and intimidated” by the president. Gangel shared a conversation she had with an anonymous House conservative — who said that the GOP caucus currently feels grave threats to their safety.
“They fear for their lives, and for their family’s lives,” the unnamed Congressional Republican told Gangel.
Politico’s Tim Alberta reported that there are Republicans who would like to vote in favor of Trump’s impeachment, but are concerned that doing so will put them in harms way.
“Numerous House Rs have received death threats in the past week, and I know for a fact several members *want* to impeach but fear casting that vote could get them or their families murdered,” Alberta tweeted Wednesday.
I believe it...sounds about right for someone like Trump.
he believes both.GannonFan wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:52 amBelieve what, that Trump is pressuring them to vote a certain way or that Trump is threatening to kill their families?Ibanez wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:45 am
https://www.mediaite.com/trump/house-re ... eir-lives/
I believe it...sounds about right for someone like Trump.
You'd be wrong, Mortimor.
Yep.Ibanez wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:03 amYou'd be wrong, Mortimor.
I believe that Trump is intimidating people to not vote for impeachment. Because of the actions of last week and what has been done since he lost the election, Republican lawmakers are afraid.
Trump isn't threatening anyone's family (God, I hope not). Radicalized MAGA supporters are.
https://www.bringingthemessage.com/unca ... re-forums/“The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.” (Article II, Section 4)
Wouldn’t be wasting time if the cabinet did their jobs.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:55 am This is a complete waste of time. Nothing more than a political charade by the left.
-Trump will be impeached on 1 article by the House.
-The Senate couldn‘t even begin a trial until 1 PM on 1/20, an hr after Trump is out of office, as McConnell won‘t agree to reconvene early.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-BB1cJ7sR
-You can’t impeach private citizens. Notice it doesn’t say “former”https://www.bringingthemessage.com/unca ... re-forums/“The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.” (Article II, Section 4)
And even if Dershowitz (and others) are wrong (certainly woud be brought before SCOTUS), and a private citizen can be impeached and convicted in the Senate, there’s ZERO chance there would 67 votes in the Senate to convict.
The House wouldn't have been here if they weren't doing the impeachment. Neither house of Congress seemed terribly interested in doing anything constructive for the people, and certainly not anything COVID related.
I'll give Pence credit, and I don't do that often since he's kinda a weird dude and because he hitched his wagon to Trump, but the letter he sent back to Congress was right on the mark. We just can't use the 25th amendment as just another way around election results or when a President becomes unpopular, either in the public or within the inner circles of government, and we can't use it in lieu of other Constitutional means to address Presidential bad behavior. It's not meant to be some Praetorian Guard mechanism to toss out such a President. I know the language is vague-ish and you could say it's allowed under the 25th, but it was really written for when a President physically or mentally couldn't do the job and either couldn't or wouldn't let go of the reins. Trump isn't any less of an idiot now than he was 4 years ago, and if Pence thinks he can and will avoid danger to himself or the country in the next week then that's what he's supposed to decide.kalm wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:13 pmWouldn’t be wasting time if the cabinet did their jobs.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:55 am This is a complete waste of time. Nothing more than a political charade by the left.
-Trump will be impeached on 1 article by the House.
-The Senate couldn‘t even begin a trial until 1 PM on 1/20, an hr after Trump is out of office, as McConnell won‘t agree to reconvene early.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-BB1cJ7sR
-You can’t impeach private citizens. Notice it doesn’t say “former”
https://www.bringingthemessage.com/unca ... re-forums/
And even if Dershowitz (and others) are wrong (certainly woud be brought before SCOTUS), and a private citizen can be impeached and convicted in the Senate, there’s ZERO chance there would 67 votes in the Senate to convict.
(Although it’s still not a waste of time.
You just described Congress for about the past 8-12 years....GannonFan wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:49 pmThe House wouldn't have been here if they weren't doing the impeachment. Neither house of Congress seemed terribly interested in doing anything constructive for the people, and certainly not anything COVID related.
With that said, Congress long ago abdicated the responsibility of actually doing things in the interest of treating politics like some weird spectator sport where everyone picks a team and buys clothes (MAGA hats, "She Persisted" t-shirts, etc) to show which team they support. While last week's attack on the capitol was certainly sad and disheartening, what was probably equally so was the lack of statemanship, from anyone, from either side of the aisle, before, during, or after the riot. We're a rudderless ship right now and no one appears to be stepping into the void to fix that.
The other thing about Jordan was the stuff about the previous impeachment effort. His thing was that the Democrats didn't find anything. That is not true. There was plenty of evidence sufficient to say Trump should be impeached and removed from office. But he was protected because the Republicans controlled the Senate. The idea that the Senate refusing to remove him from office shows that he didn't do anything is ridiculous.
Before Trump leaves office, I just want to tell you I was wrong about Trump being a lesser evil than Hillary. Trump decimated the Republican Party. Nearly every member was afraid of his power and is ability to make people believe his BS, and follow his BS.JohnStOnge wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:26 pm Now Trump can, for the first time, say he really accomplished something unprecedented: He has been impeached twice.
Also, I heard it reported today that having 10 members of his own Party vote in the House to impeach him was having more members of a President's own Party vote to impeach him ever. Another first!
An equal reflection on the pitiful state of our two party system. I think we'll see impeachment any time there is a majority house opposed to the POTUS.JohnStOnge wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:26 pm Now Trump can, for the first time, say he really accomplished something unprecedented: He has been impeached twice.
Sadly this.89Hen wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:57 pmAn equal reflection on the pitiful state of our two party system. I think we'll see impeachment any time there is a majority house opposed to the POTUS.JohnStOnge wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:26 pm Now Trump can, for the first time, say he really accomplished something unprecedented: He has been impeached twice.
Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:30 pmBefore Trump leaves office, I just want to tell you I was wrong about Trump being a lesser evil than Hillary. Trump decimated the Republican Party. Nearly every member was afraid of his power and is ability to make people believe his BS, and follow his BS.JohnStOnge wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:26 pm Now Trump can, for the first time, say he really accomplished something unprecedented: He has been impeached twice.
Also, I heard it reported today that having 10 members of his own Party vote in the House to impeach him was having more members of a President's own Party vote to impeach him ever. Another first!
No Gil, ruling elites destroyed the party. Same thing happened on the other side of the aisle as shown with the Bernie Bros. The best thing about the current situation is neither side is going back to status quo, and that is a good thing.