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SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Mar 22, 2022 1:04 pm

UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 22, 2022 12:49 pm

Who paid for their Secret Service protection?

The children of the sitting President getting Secret Service protection is privilege?

You know what I was saying. Trump kids have privilege because of their dad's money and fame, whereas Hunter and Chelsea have privilege through their parents positions in the government/influence...which we all know is bankrolled through lobbying, gifts and foreign funding kickbacks. If it isn't taken out of my taxes, the better.

Plus, Ivanka would mop the business floor with either Hunter or Chelsea.

Ibanez wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 5:05 am

SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Mar 22, 2022 12:47 pm

They spent their dad's money, not taxpayer money.

C'mon SG, that's a stupid comment to make and an incorrect one.

So you're saying taxpayer money wasn't spent to protect Don Jr while he went big game hunting in Mongolia ?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52999375

President Donald Trump's eldest son and grandson took a hunting trip to Mongolia last year that reportedly cost US taxpayers over $75,000 (£59,000).

Donald Trump Jr shot a rare mountain sheep and met the country's president, according to the Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (Crew).

Most of the money went to their Secret Service protection, the group said.

Researchers say the Trump family take 12 times as many trips as the Obamas.

SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:19 am

Ibanez wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 5:05 am C'mon SG, that's a stupid comment to make and an incorrect one.

So you're saying taxpayer money wasn't spent to protect Don Jr while he went big game hunting in Mongolia ?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52999375

I see you found the poll. This started out as Hunter has privilege because nothing will probably happen to him over the laptop. I jokingly referred that at least Chelsea made her money by being a shitty NBC correspondent for $600k. She at least put some effort into the job/grift.

In regards to the Trump kids, it was NOT political wealth that got them where they are, but Dad's personal wealth. Grifting is grifting, I just think it's more palatable when it's done with someone's personal money instead of taxpayer money.

On the basis of at least showing some skills for their privilege, the Trump kids smoke the shit out of both Hunter and Chelsea.

That's all. Not too deep of reasoning.

SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:19 am

Ibanez wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 5:05 am C'mon SG, that's a stupid comment to make and an incorrect one.

So you're saying taxpayer money wasn't spent to protect Don Jr while he went big game hunting in Mongolia ?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52999375

I see you found the poll. This started out as Hunter has privilege because nothing will probably happen to him over the laptop. I jokingly referred that at least Chelsea made her money by being a shitty NBC correspondent for $600k. She at least put some effort into the job/grift.

In regards to the Trump kids, it was NOT political wealth that got them where they are, but Dad's personal wealth. Grifting is grifting, I just think it's more palatable when it's done with someone's personal money instead of taxpayer money.

On the basis of at least showing some skills for their privilege, the Trump kids smoke the shit out of both Hunter and Chelsea.

That's all. Not too deep of reasoning.

UNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:06 am

SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:19 am

I see you found the poll. This started out as Hunter has privilege because nothing will probably happen to him over the laptop. I jokingly referred that at least Chelsea made her money by being a shitty NBC correspondent for $600k. She at least put some effort into the job/grift.

In regards to the Trump kids, it was NOT political wealth that got them where they are, but Dad's personal wealth. Grifting is grifting, I just think it's more palatable when it's done with someone's personal money instead of taxpayer money.

On the basis of at least showing some skills for their privilege, the Trump kids smoke the shit out of both Hunter and Chelsea.

That's all. Not too deep of reasoning.

What skills have the Trump kids shown? They were advisors because of birth, not experience, ability or skills.

Was it Trump's personal money or money he grifted from his subcontractors, lenders, etc?

Giving Trump or his kids any kind of moral high ground is an absolute joke. Slimeballs with money and/or power are still slimeballs.

UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 22, 2022 1:30 pm

SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Mar 22, 2022 1:04 pm

The children of the sitting President getting Secret Service protection is privilege?

You know what I was saying. Trump kids have privilege because of their dad's money and fame, whereas Hunter and Chelsea have privilege through their parents positions in the government/influence...which we all know is bankrolled through lobbying, gifts and foreign funding kickbacks. If it isn't taken out of my taxes, the better.

Plus, Ivanka would mop the business floor with either Hunter or Chelsea.

Who said the protection stopped when Trump was no longer a sitting President?

And what about the privileged sh!ts preventing their SS detail from using their extra bathroom so they had to rent another space with a bathroom?

You know what I was saying. The Trump kids are arrogant, privileged grifters and aren't any better than Hunter.

SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:08 am

UNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:06 am

What skills have the Trump kids shown? They were advisors because of birth, not experience, ability or skills.

Was it Trump's personal money or money he grifted from his subcontractors, lenders, etc?

Giving Trump or his kids any kind of moral high ground is an absolute joke. Slimeballs with money and/or power are still slimeballs.

Which kids do you think would be more valuable, skill wise, in a board meeting? Hunter, Chelsea or the Trump kids? Which ones have real world skills?

Eric and Don Jr run Trump Inc. Ivanka has her own business. Hunter blows bubbles onto canvass and Chelsea does "who knows what".

89Hen wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:34 am

UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 22, 2022 1:30 pm

Who said the protection stopped when Trump was no longer a sitting President?

And what about the privileged sh!ts preventing their SS detail from using their extra bathroom so they had to rent another space with a bathroom?

You know what I was saying. The Trump kids are arrogant, privileged grifters and aren't any better than Hunter.

They are privileged but Biden and the Clinton are lifetime politicians. Trump spent four years in office and made/inherited his money before. IMO there is a difference when it comes to this specific discussion.

kalm wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:20 am

89Hen wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:34 am

They are privileged but Biden and the Clinton are lifetime politicians. Trump spent four years in office and made/inherited his money before. IMO there is a difference when it comes to this specific discussion.

Fair but anymore I have difficulty caring about corruption differences between public and private sectors. They’re both wrong, and are often commingled.

SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:08 am

UNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:06 am

What skills have the Trump kids shown? They were advisors because of birth, not experience, ability or skills.

Was it Trump's personal money or money he grifted from his subcontractors, lenders, etc?

Giving Trump or his kids any kind of moral high ground is an absolute joke. Slimeballs with money and/or power are still slimeballs.

Which kids do you think would be more valuable, skill wise, in a board meeting? Hunter, Chelsea or the Trump kids? Which ones have real world skills?

Eric and Don Jr run Trump Inc. Ivanka has her own business. Hunter blows bubbles onto canvass and Chelsea does "who knows what".

HI54UNI wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:10 am

SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:08 am

Which kids do you think would be more valuable, skill wise, in a board meeting? Hunter, Chelsea or the Trump kids? Which ones have real world skills?

Eric and Don Jr run Trump Inc. Ivanka has her own business. Hunter blows bubbles onto canvass and Chelsea does "who knows what".

Obviously Hunter would be the most useful in a board meeting. Otherwise why would Burisma have paid him all that money to be on their board?

89Hen wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:34 am

UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 22, 2022 1:30 pm
Who said the protection stopped when Trump was no longer a sitting President?

And what about the privileged sh!ts preventing their SS detail from using their extra bathroom so they had to rent another space with a bathroom?

You know what I was saying. The Trump kids are arrogant, privileged grifters and aren't any better than Hunter.

They are privileged but Biden and the Clinton are lifetime politicians. Trump spent four years in office and made/inherited his money before. IMO there is a difference when it comes to this specific discussion.

• Inherited great wealth and it can be argued has made less with it than if he had just invested it in a Fortune 500 index fund.
• Is/was a NYC property developer with mob connections and likely bribes to get his projects approved.
• Has been accused of stiffing his subcontractors multiple times.
• Has declared bankruptcy not because he needed to but because of financial advantage.
• Has been accused of sexual assault and worse nearly 30 times.
• Paid a porn star to not talk about their affair.
• Had 5 children with 3 different mothers.

UNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:56 am

89Hen wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:34 am

They are privileged but Biden and the Clinton are lifetime politicians. Trump spent four years in office and made/inherited his money before. IMO there is a difference when it comes to this specific discussion.

Maybe if you were comparing Biden and Clinton to Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk - people who built their companies and have decent reputations. But you're comparing them to Donald Trump, a man who:

• Inherited great wealth and it can be argued has made less with it than if he had just invested it in a Fortune 500 index fund.
• Is/was a NYC property developer with mob connections and likely bribes to get his projects approved.
• Has been accused of stiffing his subcontractors multiple times.
• Has declared bankruptcy not because he needed to but because of financial advantage.
• Has been accused of sexual assault and worse nearly 30 times.
• Paid a porn star to not talk about their affair.
• Had 5 children with 3 different mothers.

Donald Trump is a scumbag grifter and his children have not shown themselves to be any better than he is.

89Hen wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 11:36 am

UNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:56 am
Maybe if you were comparing Biden and Clinton to Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk - people who built their companies and have decent reputations. But you're comparing them to Donald Trump, a man who:

• Inherited great wealth and it can be argued has made less with it than if he had just invested it in a Fortune 500 index fund.
• Is/was a NYC property developer with mob connections and likely bribes to get his projects approved.
• Has been accused of stiffing his subcontractors multiple times.
• Has declared bankruptcy not because he needed to but because of financial advantage.
• Has been accused of sexual assault and worse nearly 30 times.
• Paid a porn star to not talk about their affair.
• Had 5 children with 3 different mothers.

Donald Trump is a scumbag grifter and his children have not shown themselves to be any better than he is.

Keep banging that drum and ignore everyone else.

UNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 11:51 am

89Hen wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 11:36 am
Keep banging that drum and ignore everyone else.

And you keep banging the Trump and his kids are moral paragons compared to Biden, Clinton and their kids drum.

Ibanez wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 1:08 pm c'mon! not a single nod or anything to my Bubbles joke?

Pwns wrote: ↑Tue Mar 22, 2022 7:37 am TBH, the lede here is that social media actively censored a story in an election year due to crackdown that Democrats in congress pressured them to do. And there'll be nothing but crickets from the people so concerned about protecting democracy.

Ibanez wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 1:08 pm c'mon! not a single nod or anything to my Bubbles joke?

SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:19 am

Ibanez wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 5:05 am C'mon SG, that's a stupid comment to make and an incorrect one.

So you're saying taxpayer money wasn't spent to protect Don Jr while he went big game hunting in Mongolia ?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52999375

I see you found the poll. This started out as Hunter has privilege because nothing will probably happen to him over the laptop. I jokingly referred that at least Chelsea made her money by being a shitty NBC correspondent for $600k. She at least put some effort into the job/grift.

In regards to the Trump kids, it was NOT political wealth that got them where they are, but Dad's personal wealth. Grifting is grifting, I just think it's more palatable when it's done with someone's personal money instead of taxpayer money.

On the basis of at least showing some skills for their privilege, the Trump kids smoke the shit out of both Hunter and Chelsea.

That's all. Not too deep of reasoning.

SDHornet wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 5:59 pm

Ibanez wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 1:08 pm c'mon! not a single nod or anything to my Bubbles joke?

I 'd. Wanted to quote it but the pic is a whole scroll wheels worth of effort, decided against it.

UNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:56 am
[*]Is/was a NYC property developer with mob connections and likely bribes to get his projects approved.

CAA Flagship wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 5:33 am

UNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:56 am
[*]Is/was a NYC property developer with mob connections and likely bribes to get his projects approved.

Ahem. Maybe you don't understand how things have worked in NYC for more than 100 years.

CAA Flagship wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 5:33 am

UNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:56 am
[*]Is/was a NYC property developer with mob connections and likely bribes to get his projects approved.

Ahem. Maybe you don't understand how things have worked in NYC for more than 100 years.

Ibanez wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:20 am

CAA Flagship wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 5:33 am

Ahem. Maybe you don't understand how things have worked in NYC for more than 100 years.

That makes it ok!?