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Re: POTUS Debate #1

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SunCoastBlueHen wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:13 pm
GannonFan wrote:Btw, I've already turned this off, I just couldn't bear it anymore. We've never had two worse candidates for President than who we have now. Could've picked two people off the street at random and we'd likely be better off.
I'm sad to say that I couldn't agree with this more.

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It's high comedy and I'm still watching. It's too bad Chuck Barris passed away, he would be a perfect moderator for a future debate.

Biden has had a few moments but his mental acuity has not been nearly as bad as I expected.

Trump has been a bombastic bully as expected and he looks like he's ready to have a thumper.
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Re: POTUS Debate #1

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Biden: “The Green New Deal will pay for itself.”
Wallace: “Do you support the Green New Deal?”
Biden: “No I don’t support the Green New Deal.”
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I committed to watching one debate. Like ice pics in the ears. I’ll not watch another one.
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Re: POTUS Debate #1

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Can’t wait for all the rogue “poll watchers” to show up around the country on Election Day

What a shitshow.

I actually look forward to the VP debate for some desperately needed sense of normalcy
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Re: POTUS Debate #1

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Neither Wallace nor Biden differentiated much between solicited absentee ballot, and unsolicted mass mail in. Trump attempted but did a poor job.
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Re: POTUS Debate #1

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Trump should have interrupted a lot less and let Biden talk himself into confusion.
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Sounds like it was really bad for Trump, and simply fine for Biden.

I guess Trump didn't condemn white supremacy and refused to acknowledge election results...sounds about right.

I'll have to replay it tomorrow.
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Re: POTUS Debate #1

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∞∞∞ wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:51 pm Sounds like it was really bad for Trump, and simply fine for Biden.

I guess Trump didn't condemn white supremacy and refused to acknowledge election results...sounds about right.

I'll have to replay it tomorrow.
According to whom?
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Re: POTUS Debate #1

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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:53 pm
∞∞∞ wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:51 pm Sounds like it was really bad for Trump, and simply fine for Biden.

I guess Trump didn't condemn white supremacy and refused to acknowledge election results...sounds about right.

I'll have to replay it tomorrow.
According to whom?
People around me, but I'm sure Trump did it...not like he hasn't many times before.

It was recorded, right? So according to Trump is the answer.
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Shit show for sure. I'm not voting for the lesser of the same evil. Hopefully voting 3rd party catches on for the sake If my grandchildren.
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Re: POTUS Debate #1

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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:53 pm
∞∞∞ wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:51 pm Sounds like it was really bad for Trump, and simply fine for Biden.

I guess Trump didn't condemn white supremacy and refused to acknowledge election results...sounds about right.

I'll have to replay it tomorrow.
According to whom?
Seems like most people think Trump did poorly while opinions on Biden's performance were mixed. It was somewhere between a draw and a Biden win. If Trump is truly behind that isn't good enough.
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∞∞∞ wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:55 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:53 pm
According to whom?
People around me, but I'm sure Trump did it...not like he hasn't many times before.

It was recorded, right? So according to Trump is the answer.
Lol ok liberals thought Trump looked bad..
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Re: POTUS Debate #1

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UNI88 wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:59 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:53 pm
According to whom?
Seems like most people think Trump did poorly while opinions on Biden's performance were mixed. It was somewhere between a draw and a Biden win. If Trump is truly behind that isn't good enough.
In 2016 early Oct Trump was behind Clinton by 13% in the RCP national avg (its about 6% now), and the MSM claimed Clinton won all 3 debates (ask JSO), and we know what happened in the election..
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∞∞∞ wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:51 pm Sounds like it was really bad for Trump, and simply fine for Biden.

I guess Trump didn't condemn white supremacy and refused to acknowledge election results...sounds about right.

I'll have to replay it tomorrow.
No.

All three were horrible. Trump, Biden, and Wallace.
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The debate summarized ...
Spoiler: show
Wallace was Bill Murray.
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:02 pm
∞∞∞ wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:55 pm
People around me, but I'm sure Trump did it...not like he hasn't many times before.

It was recorded, right? So according to Trump is the answer.
Lol ok liberals thought Trump looked bad..

No sense or irony of self-awareness in that statement at all?
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Baldy wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:35 pm
∞∞∞ wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:51 pm Sounds like it was really bad for Trump, and simply fine for Biden.

I guess Trump didn't condemn white supremacy and refused to acknowledge election results...sounds about right.

I'll have to replay it tomorrow.
No.

All three were horrible. Trump, Biden, and Wallace.
This was and will continue to be a national scar.

I think this platform may be outdated.

We are a society now conditioned to consume information quickly, not thoroughly.

A 2 minute response forces the same 'greatest hits,' that's all you gotta do. Stick to the hits.
It's speaking in Tweet and looking for a viral moment. That is, if you can get a word in.

I do think Trump set a precedence for this in 2016 and both candidates did again tonight.

But we should re-think this entire format.

And cut the fucking mics.
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That was pretty much what should have been expected....and also......

AWESOME! :lol:

Trump needs to move independents. Don’t think tonight helped much. For Biden, it’s just a matter of not losing. Ties go to the front runner.
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∞∞∞ wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:51 pm Sounds like it was really bad for Trump, and simply fine for Biden.

I guess Trump didn't condemn white supremacy and refused to acknowledge election results...sounds about right.

I'll have to replay it tomorrow.

The quote was "stand back and stand by."

And then something about ballots in a river and unsolicited ballots that I truly couldn't follow, which BDKJMU alluded to earlier.
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:10 pm
Col Hogan wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:45 am I predict the debate will be called off at the last second because Biden refuses to allow an independent third party inspection of his ears for ear pieces...and Trump refuses the same independent inspection for hair pieces...

And Biden the Biden campaign has asked for 2 breaks at the 30 minute intervals. Trump campaign has refused, as breaks aren't the norm. Translation. Biden will have an ear piece, and can't go for 90 minutes..
Or he wanted to go take a bathroom break. :suspicious:
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DuckDuckGriz wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:20 pm
∞∞∞ wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:51 pm Sounds like it was really bad for Trump, and simply fine for Biden.

I guess Trump didn't condemn white supremacy and refused to acknowledge election results...sounds about right.

I'll have to replay it tomorrow.

The quote was "stand back and stand by."

And then something about ballots in a river and unsolicited ballots that I truly couldn't follow, which BDKJMU alluded to earlier.
Here's the full quote: "Proud boys, stand back and stand by, but I'll tell you what, somebody's gotta do something about Antifa and the left."

"The left", or more than half the country: your kids, friends, coworkers, neighbors...

...and that's besides the fact he didn't agree to accept the results of the election.

But yeah, all these people keep telling me how Trump isn't a fascist. :roll: (not you specifically)
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:28 pm Biden: “The Green New Deal will pay for itself.”
Wallace: “Do you support the Green New Deal?”
Biden: “No I don’t support the Green New Deal.”
That was equally as bad as Trump not condemning white supremacists
WALLACE: You have repeatedly criticized the vice president for not specifically calling out antifa and other left-wing extremist groups. But are you willing, tonight, to condemn white supremacists and militia groups and to say that they need to stand down and not add to the violence in a number of these cities as we saw in Kenosha and as we've seen in Portland? Are you prepared to specifically do that?

TRUMP: Sure, I'm prepared to do that. But I would say almost everything I see is from the left wing, not from the right wing. If you look, I'm willing to do anything. I want to see peace.

WALLACE: Then do it, sir.

BIDEN: Do it. Say it.

TRUMP: You want to call them? What do you want to call them? Give me a name, give me a name, go ahead — who would you like me to condemn?

WALLACE: White supremacists, white supremacists and right-wing militia.

TRUMP: Proud Boys, stand back and stand by. But I'll tell you what: Somebody's got to do something about antifa and the left. Because this is not a right-wing problem — this is a left-wing problem.
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:53 pm
∞∞∞ wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:51 pm Sounds like it was really bad for Trump, and simply fine for Biden.

I guess Trump didn't condemn white supremacy and refused to acknowledge election results...sounds about right.

I'll have to replay it tomorrow.
According to whom?
Well my MAGA siblings thought it was a disaster for Trump. I guess it was a culmination of circus that is Trump Term 1.

It was a shit show - unless you're a died in the wool Trump/Biden supporter. I'm guessing you loved the fact that the man didn't have the self control to shut his mouth and let a moderate ask a question or let his opponent answer his question. Debates are to make your case, and more importantly, make it to those undecided voters. Trump played to his base, who wouldn't leave him anyway.
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:05 pm
UNI88 wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:59 pm

Seems like most people think Trump did poorly while opinions on Biden's performance were mixed. It was somewhere between a draw and a Biden win. If Trump is truly behind that isn't good enough.
In 2016 early Oct Trump was behind Clinton by 13% in the RCP national avg (its about 6% now), and the MSM claimed Clinton won all 3 debates (ask JSO), and we know what happened in the election..
YOU'RE LIVING IN THE PAST, MAN! YOU'RE HUNG UP ON A CLOWN FROM THE 60S, MAN!

That was 2016, who gives a flying fuck?!?! Past performance doesn't necessarily predict future outcomes.
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