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Re: 2020 General Election

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JohnStOnge wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:53 pm
SDHornet wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:19 pm Like anyone with a brain didn't already know.

Did you notice how many times he said "without saying it?" In other words: Nobody told him that. Also, did you notice how the guy narrating the video called him a "CNN director?" He's not a CNN director. "Director" and "Technical Director" are two different things. That's a sly attempt to use of his title to make it sound like he's a big deal when he is not. He's in a job that typically carries about a $51,000 per year salary at CNN.

This is an example, I think, of why the source I use for checking the credibility of sources has Project Veritas as a "Questionable Source." Very deceptive.
Project Veritas is a questionable source?

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Re: 2020 General Election

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89Hen wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:42 am
JohnStOnge wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:53 pm This is an example, I think, of why the source I use for checking the credibility of sources has Project Veritas as a "Questionable Source." Very deceptive.
You mean like CNN.
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Re: 2020 General Election

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89Hen wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:42 am
JohnStOnge wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:53 pm This is an example, I think, of why the source I use for checking the credibility of sources has Project Veritas as a "Questionable Source." Very deceptive.
You mean like CNN.
No. Not like CNN. CNN has issues and I typically do not cite them. But they're not as bad as Project Veritas. For what it's worth, here are some metrics from the mediabiasfactcheck site I use:

CNN
Bias Rating: LEFT
Factual Reporting: MIXED
Country: USA (45/180 Press Freedom)
Media Type: TV Station
Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: MEDIUM CREDIBILITY

Project Veritas
Bias Rating: RIGHT
Factual Reporting: MIXED
Country: USA (45/180 Press Freedom)
Media Type: Website
Traffic/Popularity: MediumTraffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: LOW CREDIBILITY

If you are citing Project Veritas, you are really in the muck. It's not credible. At all.
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Re: 2020 General Election

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Here is an article that actually gives SOME credence to the CNN Technical Director thing:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-BB1fCuH1

But it includes this statement:
It is unlikely that he would have had editorial input at CNN, or participated in the network's daily editorial calls.
What happened here is obvious. Project Veritas "Catfished" somebody who worked at CNN. He thought he was getting a hot set of dates. He was mouthing off to try to impress her. He was not, at all, somebody who was in position to have direct knowledge into what CNN management was thinking. Also, he said that the stuff he was assuming was not said.

This is a complete nothing burger.
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JohnStOnge wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 3:59 pm
89Hen wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:42 am

You mean like CNN.
No. Not like CNN. CNN has issues and I typically do not cite them. But they're not as bad as Project Veritas. For what it's worth, here are some metrics from the mediabiasfactcheck site I use:

CNN
Bias Rating: LEFT
Factual Reporting: MIXED
Country: USA (45/180 Press Freedom)
Media Type: TV Station
Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: MEDIUM CREDIBILITY

Project Veritas
Bias Rating: RIGHT
Factual Reporting: MIXED
Country: USA (45/180 Press Freedom)
Media Type: Website
Traffic/Popularity: MediumTraffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: LOW CREDIBILITY

If you are citing Project Veritas, you are really in the muck. It's not credible. At all.
Media Bias Fact Check? Like this one listed on Wikipedia as:
The website has been described as an amateur effort to rate news media sources based on factual accuracy and political bias.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_B ... 20using%20
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Re: 2020 General Election

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SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 5:53 pm
JohnStOnge wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 3:59 pm

No. Not like CNN. CNN has issues and I typically do not cite them. But they're not as bad as Project Veritas. For what it's worth, here are some metrics from the mediabiasfactcheck site I use:

CNN
Bias Rating: LEFT
Factual Reporting: MIXED
Country: USA (45/180 Press Freedom)
Media Type: TV Station
Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: MEDIUM CREDIBILITY

Project Veritas
Bias Rating: RIGHT
Factual Reporting: MIXED
Country: USA (45/180 Press Freedom)
Media Type: Website
Traffic/Popularity: MediumTraffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: LOW CREDIBILITY

If you are citing Project Veritas, you are really in the muck. It's not credible. At all.
Media Bias Fact Check? Like this one listed on Wikipedia as:
The website has been described as an amateur effort to rate news media sources based on factual accuracy and political bias.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_B ... 20using%20
It's a wiki ... you went in and edited the description and then quoted it didn't you? :mrgreen:
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Re: 2020 General Election

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UNI88 wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:18 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 5:53 pm

Media Bias Fact Check? Like this one listed on Wikipedia as:



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_B ... 20using%20
It's a wiki ... you went in and edited the description and then quoted it didn't you? :mrgreen:
Maybe.
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Re: 2020 General Election

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SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:43 pm
UNI88 wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:18 pm

It's a wiki ... you went in and edited the description and then quoted it didn't you? :mrgreen:
Maybe.
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Re: 2020 General Election

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JohnStOnge wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 3:59 pm
No. Not like CNN. CNN has issues and I typically do not cite them. But they're not as bad as Project Veritas.
And that is exactly why CNN is actually far WORSE. Because people like you give them a pass. We all know PV is partisan, but lemmings like you watch CNN thinking it's actually reporting the news. :coffee:
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Re: 2020 General Election

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89Hen wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:19 am
JohnStOnge wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 3:59 pm
No. Not like CNN. CNN has issues and I typically do not cite them. But they're not as bad as Project Veritas.
And that is exactly why CNN is actually far WORSE. Because people like you give them a pass. We all know PV is partisan, but lemmings like you watch CNN thinking it's actually reporting the news. :coffee:
Neither are “the news”. CNN will propagandize the corporate angle from a cultural standpoint. PV propagandizes anti-left politics.
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kalm wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:33 am Neither are “the news”.
You're in the vast minority of the left.
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Re: 2020 General Election

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89Hen wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:45 am
kalm wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:33 am Neither are “the news”.
You're in the vast minority of the left.
Maybe. Did you take a poll?
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Re: 2020 General Election

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kalm wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:54 am
89Hen wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:45 am

You're in the vast minority of the left.
Maybe. Did you take a poll?
Heard it on Fox.
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89Hen wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:23 am
kalm wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:54 am

Maybe. Did you take a poll?
Heard it on Fox.
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Officer Sicknick not murdered, died of natural causes, ME says.
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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:10 pm Officer Sicknick not murdered, died of natural causes, ME says.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/capitol-poli ... t-examiner
Wasn’t this already well known?
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AZGrizFan wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 10:07 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:10 pm Officer Sicknick not murdered, died of natural causes, ME says.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/capitol-poli ... t-examiner
Wasn’t this already well known?
I don't think the Blue Anon crowd knows it.
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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:10 pm Officer Sicknick not murdered, died of natural causes, ME says.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/capitol-poli ... t-examiner
The medical examiner's report showed that Sicknick was sprayed with a chemical substance around 2:20 p.m. on Jan. 6 and collapsed at the Capitol around 10 p.m. that evening. He died around 9:30 p.m. on Jan. 7, according to the examiner's office.

Diaz told the Washington Post, which first reported the news, that the Jan. 6 events "played a role in his condition."
A little more context...sounds like the dude had a stressful day on Jan 6.
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Ibanez wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:32 am
BDKJMU wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:10 pm Officer Sicknick not murdered, died of natural causes, ME says.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/capitol-poli ... t-examiner
The medical examiner's report showed that Sicknick was sprayed with a chemical substance around 2:20 p.m. on Jan. 6 and collapsed at the Capitol around 10 p.m. that evening. He died around 9:30 p.m. on Jan. 7, according to the examiner's office.

Diaz told the Washington Post, which first reported the news, that the Jan. 6 events "played a role in his condition."
A little more context...sounds like the dude had a stressful day on Jan 6.
That resulted in his death? Doesn't sounds like it.

So much for the "Trump supporters stormed the Capitol and killed a cop" narrative.
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SDHornet wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:32 am
Ibanez wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:32 am


A little more context...sounds like the dude had a stressful day on Jan 6.
That resulted in his death? Doesn't sounds like it.

So much for the "Trump supporters stormed the Capitol and killed a cop" narrative.
I guess we'll have to stick with storming the Capitol, beating cops, spraying them with chemicals, vandalizing publicly property, theft, rioting, etc....

They weren't any better than the BLM/Antifa crowd. :twocents:
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Ibanez wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:38 am
SDHornet wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:32 am

That resulted in his death? Doesn't sounds like it.

So much for the "Trump supporters stormed the Capitol and killed a cop" narrative.
I guess we'll have to stick with storming the Capitol, beating cops, spraying them with chemicals, vandalizing publicly property, theft, rioting, etc....

They weren't any better than the BLM/Antifa crowd. :twocents:
Agreed, crack down on all political violence. :nod:
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Ibanez wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:38 am
SDHornet wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:32 am

That resulted in his death? Doesn't sounds like it.

So much for the "Trump supporters stormed the Capitol and killed a cop" narrative.
I guess we'll have to stick with storming the Capitol, beating cops, spraying them with chemicals, vandalizing publicly property, theft, rioting, etc....

They weren't any better than the BLM/Antifa crowd. :twocents:
Sure, let's stipulate to that. The key is, no worse either. And remind me again how the all out effort to root out ANTIFA/BLM rioters across the country has gone? :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Re: 2020 General Election

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AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:12 pm
Ibanez wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:38 am
I guess we'll have to stick with storming the Capitol, beating cops, spraying them with chemicals, vandalizing publicly property, theft, rioting, etc....

They weren't any better than the BLM/Antifa crowd. :twocents:
Sure, let's stipulate to that. The key is, no worse either. And remind me again how the all out effort to root out ANTIFA/BLM rioters across the country has gone? :roll: :roll: :roll:
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SDHornet wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:45 am
Ibanez wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:38 am
I guess we'll have to stick with storming the Capitol, beating cops, spraying them with chemicals, vandalizing publicly property, theft, rioting, etc....

They weren't any better than the BLM/Antifa crowd. :twocents:
Agreed, crack down on all political violence. :nod:
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