2020 General Election

[mainejeff]

Yes, you are missing the point by trying to justify the one sidedness of the media by people falling for it. Here's where I have a problem. These are completely made up numbers but I think:

50% of conservatives think Fox is one-sided (99% of liberals do)

20% of liberals think NBC, CBS, ABC are one-sided

I hate to tell you but after watching many hours of Fox, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC and CBS, Fox offers the most balanced news, BUT that's only 80/20. The others are all 98/2.

Not to mention Fox has been correct about all the made up crimes levied at Trump. Oh yeah, Covington Catholic as well.

Makes you start to wonder how much was true in the Obama years as well.

[89Hen]

I watched a few minutes. Why do you believe crap like that? There was absolutely no evidence for anything the guy was saying.

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/5199 ... voting-for

An NBC town hall with Joe Biden billed as consisting only of "an audience of undecided Florida voters" included two Cuban American voters who told MSNBC in August they were voting for the former vice president, according to a Tuesday report in the Washington Free Beacon.

https://www.collegian.psu.edu/news/boro ... 075f8.html

Haeck is the wife of Ezra Nanes, a Democratic politician who ran for Pennsylvania Senate in 2018. Nanes lost to Republican Jake Corman.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/nateosburn/

State Level Communications
Company Name Obama for America
Dates Employed Aug 2008 – Nov 2008
Employment Duration 4 mos
Location Anchorage, Alaska
State-level communications director handling high-profile media inquiries (local, national, and international).

[SeattleGriz]

Not to mention Fox has been correct about all the made up crimes levied at Trump. Oh yeah, Covington Catholic as well.

Makes you start to wonder how much was true in the Obama years as well.

Welcome back Jeff.

[SeattleGriz]

[houndawg]

As is Michigan (as of now)
https://www.npr.org/2020/10/17/92493003 ... ection-day

Well, Trump did say that they should maybe extend the election out past Nov 3rd and Dems said he was trying to undermine our Democracy (Hildabeast's go-to line), so we had better stick to the deadline.

Your only chance to avoid the Blue Tsunami

[houndawg]

There you go again, stuck on Russia, Russia, Russia!

I wish that we could learn from Obama, who in 2012 schooled Romney that Russians were a threat in the last century not this one, and was then caught on a hot mike telling an aide to tell Putin once he was re-elected Obama would have more leeway to do what Putin wanted.


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Learned that one from the Iran Hostage crisis.

[houndawg]

At the time I remember wondering what super secret deep intel authority Old Rudy was operating under.

The FBI has the same info but it took Rudy to blow the doors off this grand conspiracy.

You mean the same FBI that beclowned themselves over Russia collusion? I think we both know why Rudy had to take the lead on this one.

On a more serious note, it'll be interesting to see what Wray has to say in a couple days.

Nothing delivers like some halfwit conkulistic pinhead whining about the evil FBI...

Everybody else knew this 50 years ago, Dr. Hawking...

[SeattleGriz]

You mean the same FBI that beclowned themselves over Russia collusion? I think we both know why Rudy had to take the lead on this one.

On a more serious note, it'll be interesting to see what Wray has to say in a couple days.

Nothing delivers like some halfwit conkulistic pinhead whining about the evil FBI...

Everybody else knew this 50 years ago, Dr. Hawking...

So your statement includes Klam as well then. Here that Klam. We're pinheads.

[AZGrizFan]

Nothing delivers like some halfwit conkulistic pinhead whining about the evil FBI...

Everybody else knew this 50 years ago, Dr. Hawking...

So your statement includes Klam as well then. Here that Klam. We're pinheads.

*Hear

[SDHornet]

It'll still be 60-40 Biden. A wasted and pointless trip for Trump.

I'll take the under on that 20 point spread, Alex.

Deal. Loser sends a dick pic to jon.

Btw hilldog won CA by 30 points in '16. Even with Joes retardism in play, he should still clear 20 pts easy.

[BDKJMU]

You're missing the point. It's not that they're not both miserable piles of shit. It's that the 4th estate is openly ROOTING for one side over the other. The media has become the lapdog of the left. It's out in the wide open now.

So you haven't heard that the next debate won't be on foreign policy because, you know, Hunter and stuff. Not to mention the changing of the debate rules days before the debate.

Yeah this whole thing is rigged.

Yep, the last debate historically has been heavy on foreign policy. According to the released topics, nothing on foreign policy. Such a crock.

[JohnStOnge]

You may have seen video of Trump telling Lesley Stahl that, before COVID-19, the US had its best economy ever. Stahl said "you know that's not true" then Trump insisted that it was because it was the lowest unemployment rate ever (it wasn't...while it's been a long time the US unemployment rate has been as low as 1.2%).

It WAS the lowest unemployment rate in 50 years. But, overall, there is no way it was even close to the best economy ever. I compared the three years of Trump pre COVID, 2017 through 2019, to the best three years of Clinton, 1997 through 1999.

The unemployment rates were a little lower 2017 through 2019. The average monthly rate was 4.0% (range 3.5% through 4.7%) vs. an average monthly rate of 4.6% (range 4.0% through 5.3%).

However:

During 1997 through 1999 the economy added an average of 267,000 jobs per month. during 2017 through 2019 it was 187,000.

During 1997 through 1999 the average annual Growth Domestic Product growth was 4.6%. During 2017 through 2019 it was 2.5%.

During 1997 through 1999 the value of the Dow Jones Industrial Average increased by 78%. During 2017 through 2019 it was 43%.

I won't go into detail for other Administrations but there were three year periods with better GDP growth than Trump's three years prior to COVID during the George H.W. Bush, Clinton, H.W. Bush, Reagan, Carter, Ford, Nixon, Johnson, Kennedy, and Eisenhower Administrations. I stopped going back after that.

And there was a three year period during the Obama Administration, 2013 through 2015, that barely missed having the average GDP growth of Trump's first three years. It was 2.47%.

The idea that we had the best economy ever during the Trump Administration prior to COVID is outright ridiculous. When Trump tells you that he is trying to B.S. you. It wasn't even CLOSE to the best economy we've had.

Here are links at which you can check the data:

Unemployment: https://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/surveymost?bls (select Unemployment Rate (Seasonally Adjusted).

Jobs added per month: https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0000000001...

GDP growth per year: https://www.thebalance.com/us-gdp-by-year-3305543

Dow Jones: https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/%5EDJI/history...

[SDHornet]

[BDKJMU]

Some big rapper named 50 Cents endorsed Trump.
https://nypost.com/2020/10/20/50-cent-b ... biden/amp/

[kalm]

Why Trump is toast.

(We will see)

https://thebulwark.com/trump-is-toast/? ... claPAWi-4M

[Ibanez]

Some big rapper named 50 Cents endorsed Trump.
https://nypost.com/2020/10/20/50-cent-b ... biden/amp/

So have the Taliban and David Duke.

[kalm]

Some big rapper named 50 Cents endorsed Trump.
https://nypost.com/2020/10/20/50-cent-b ... biden/amp/

So have the Taliban and David Duke.

Not nearly as dope as “50 cents”.

[UNI88]

Why Trump is toast.

(We will see)

https://thebulwark.com/trump-is-toast/? ... claPAWi-4M

I think there might still be a lot of potential Trump voters who aren't being honest with pollsters so I have no idea what will happen. Could be close or it could be a landslide for Biden.

That doesn’t tell us anything about a Biden presidency, of course. You don’t get, say, an extra Supreme Court appointment just for getting more votes than any presidential candidate in American history. But it will be part of his mandate, part of the continuing realignment of American politics, and the most vociferous rejection of a sitting president in decades—and possibly in any of our lifetimes.

I do think that a landslide for Biden would be much more of a rebuke for Trump than a mandate for Biden and progressive policies.

[Baldy]

Some big rapper named 50 Cents endorsed Trump.
https://nypost.com/2020/10/20/50-cent-b ... biden/amp/

It's obvious 50cent doesn't want to be turned into 19cent.

[Baldy]

Why Trump is toast.

(We will see)

https://thebulwark.com/trump-is-toast/? ... claPAWi-4M

bUlWARk.

[SDHornet]

Some big rapper named 50 Cents endorsed Trump.
https://nypost.com/2020/10/20/50-cent-b ... biden/amp/

This endorsement might have actually meant something if we were in 2004.

[BDKJMU]

Some big rapper named 50 Cents endorsed Trump.
https://nypost.com/2020/10/20/50-cent-b ... biden/amp/

This endorsement might have actually meant something if we were in 2004.

He’s not a “current” rapper?

The only rappers I could have named are the Ice guys: Ice Cube, Ice T, and Vanilla Ice. And Tupac and Biggy Smalls? And M&M...6 is pretty good for someone who doesn’t listen to rap..

[Ibanez]

Some big rapper named 50 Cents endorsed Trump.
https://nypost.com/2020/10/20/50-cent-b ... biden/amp/

This endorsement might have actually meant something if we were in 2004.

And his opinion had any weight.

[Ibanez]

This endorsement might have actually meant something if we were in 2004.

He’s not a “current” rapper?

The only rappers I could have named are the Ice guys: Ice Cube, Ice T, and Vanilla Ice. And Tupac and Biggy Smalls? And M&M...6 is pretty good for someone who doesn’t listen to rap..

The Ice Guys...i love that.

Surely you've heard of the Beastie Boys? Run DMC? Kurtis Blow? Dr. Dre? Fresh Prince and DJ Jazzy Jeff?

[Ibanez]

Why Trump is toast.

(We will see)

https://thebulwark.com/trump-is-toast/? ... claPAWi-4M

I think there might still be a lot of potential Trump voters who aren't being honest with pollsters so I have no idea what will happen. Could be close or it could be a landslide for Biden.

That doesn’t tell us anything about a Biden presidency, of course. You don’t get, say, an extra Supreme Court appointment just for getting more votes than any presidential candidate in American history. But it will be part of his mandate, part of the continuing realignment of American politics, and the most vociferous rejection of a sitting president in decades—and possibly in any of our lifetimes.

I do think that a landslide for Biden would be much more of a rebuke for Trump than a mandate for Biden and progressive policies.

You think? The Trump supporters on this site have said they'd lie to a pollster if asked - and then bitch about the integrity of polls. I think 2020 is different. We've had 4 years of division, crisis, gaffes, MSM, etc... His supporters are so much more vocal now than in 2016. I'd say some still lie about it (punk bitches) but not nearly as much as 2016.