2020 General Election
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Re: 2020 General Election
I see a lot of stuff like this
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It's true. Republicans on here have rationalized and made excuses for a violent protest and have spent pages comparing it to BLM/Antifa.AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:22 amcome on Mark. You're smarter than that.Ibanez wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 6:45 am
The better irony/hypocrisy is that Republicans and Democrats have completely flipped the script on each other. Last summer the Dems were saying the protestors were ok and the violence was acceptable, blah blah blah. While the Republicans were saying violence is criminal and you don't loot a Target to make your point. You don't burn buildings to make your point. You obey the law and you'll be ok.
Now it's the opposite. Democrats are denouncing the GOP for their supporters and the GOP is saying, " Yeah , but BLM did it...."
What's worst is that there are people that actually believe that shit.
If the Trump supporters had gone and looted a Target because they were made at Congress, then your analogy would make sense. But what would you have them do? 75,000,000 people being disenfranchised all at once and they're supposed to just sit around and turn the other cheek and say, "thank you sir, may I have another"? Or maybe you'd RATHER they loot a Target?
Trump supporters vandalized and looted the US Capital b/c they believe a false narrative of a stolen election. 75M people aren't being disenfranchised - they're just upset and are choosing to believe a theory that isn't based on any facts instead of accepting reality (kind of like Democrats in 2016).
And suggesting that'd prefer the loot a Target is asinine. My position on BLM is painfully obvious. Go back to those threads, you'll not see a single post of mine supporting BLM/Antifa. Your entire post is making excuses.
People did bad things. It's perfectly alright to say they're wrong and that anyone that inspired their acts and/or urged them on shares the blame.
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Re: 2020 General Election
Any potential evidence was never adjudicated in court. The election investigations were not transparent and unfortunately we'll never truly know one way or the other.Ibanez wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:48 amIt's true. Republicans on here have rationalized and made excuses for a violent protest and have spent pages comparing it to BLM/Antifa.AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:22 am
come on Mark. You're smarter than that.
If the Trump supporters had gone and looted a Target because they were made at Congress, then your analogy would make sense. But what would you have them do? 75,000,000 people being disenfranchised all at once and they're supposed to just sit around and turn the other cheek and say, "thank you sir, may I have another"? Or maybe you'd RATHER they loot a Target?
Trump supporters vandalized and looted the US Capital b/c they believe a false narrative of a stolen election. 75M people aren't being disenfranchised - they're just upset and are choosing to believe a theory that isn't based on any facts instead of accepting reality (kind of like Democrats in 2016).
And suggesting that'd prefer the loot a Target is asinine. My position on BLM is painfully obvious. Go back to those threads, you'll not see a single post of mine supporting BLM/Antifa. Your entire post is making excuses.
People did bad things. It's perfectly alright to say they're wrong and that anyone that inspired their acts and/or urged them on shares the blame.
Re: 2020 General Election
Are you referring to those that are saying that if this were BLM, then the entire National Guard would've been there and the death count would've been higher?
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Re: 2020 General Election
My comparisons of the MAGAt riots to the BLM/AnTiFa riots is not to defend or make excuses for the MAGAt riots but to argue that they're all bad and that the response from our politicians and law enforcement should be consistent.Ibanez wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:48 amIt's true. Republicans on here have rationalized and made excuses for a violent protest and have spent pages comparing it to BLM/Antifa.AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:22 am
come on Mark. You're smarter than that.
If the Trump supporters had gone and looted a Target because they were made at Congress, then your analogy would make sense. But what would you have them do? 75,000,000 people being disenfranchised all at once and they're supposed to just sit around and turn the other cheek and say, "thank you sir, may I have another"? Or maybe you'd RATHER they loot a Target?
Trump supporters vandalized and looted the US Capital b/c they believe a false narrative of a stolen election. 75M people aren't being disenfranchised - they're just upset and are choosing to believe a theory that isn't based on any facts instead of accepting reality (kind of like Democrats in 2016).
And suggesting that'd prefer the loot a Target is asinine. My position on BLM is painfully obvious. Go back to those threads, you'll not see a single post of mine supporting BLM/Antifa. Your entire post is making excuses.
People did bad things. It's perfectly alright to say they're wrong and that anyone that inspired their acts and/or urged them on shares the blame.
I agree that many Trump supporters have bought into a false narrative. But their feelings/anger toward the government are real and should not be dismissed simply because of the actions of the few that stormed the Capital just like the feelings/anger of people of color should not be dismissed.
Being wrong about a topic is called post partisanism - kalm
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Spot on. The double standard held towards political violence is a very dangerous thing.UNI88 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:57 amMy comparisons of the MAGAt riots to the BLM/AnTiFa riots is not to defend or make excuses for the MAGAt riots but to argue that they're all bad and that the response from our politicians and law enforcement should be consistent.Ibanez wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:48 am It's true. Republicans on here have rationalized and made excuses for a violent protest and have spent pages comparing it to BLM/Antifa.
Trump supporters vandalized and looted the US Capital b/c they believe a false narrative of a stolen election. 75M people aren't being disenfranchised - they're just upset and are choosing to believe a theory that isn't based on any facts instead of accepting reality (kind of like Democrats in 2016).
And suggesting that'd prefer the loot a Target is asinine. My position on BLM is painfully obvious. Go back to those threads, you'll not see a single post of mine supporting BLM/Antifa. Your entire post is making excuses.
People did bad things. It's perfectly alright to say they're wrong and that anyone that inspired their acts and/or urged them on shares the blame.
I agree that many Trump supporters have bought into a false narrative. But their feelings/anger toward the government are real and should not be dismissed simply because of the actions of the few that stormed the Capital just like the feelings/anger of people of color should not be dismissed.
Re: 2020 General Election
Honest question - would it be more believable if Biden hadn't flipped Arizona and Georgia?SDHornet wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:51 amAny potential evidence was never adjudicated in court. The election investigations were not transparent and unfortunately we'll never truly know one way or the other.Ibanez wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:48 am It's true. Republicans on here have rationalized and made excuses for a violent protest and have spent pages comparing it to BLM/Antifa.
Trump supporters vandalized and looted the US Capital b/c they believe a false narrative of a stolen election. 75M people aren't being disenfranchised - they're just upset and are choosing to believe a theory that isn't based on any facts instead of accepting reality (kind of like Democrats in 2016).
And suggesting that'd prefer the loot a Target is asinine. My position on BLM is painfully obvious. Go back to those threads, you'll not see a single post of mine supporting BLM/Antifa. Your entire post is making excuses.
People did bad things. It's perfectly alright to say they're wrong and that anyone that inspired their acts and/or urged them on shares the blame.
Turns out I might be a little gay. 89Hen 11/7/17
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SDHornet wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:00 pmSpot on. The double standard held towards political violence is a very dangerous thing.UNI88 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:57 am
My comparisons of the MAGAt riots to the BLM/AnTiFa riots is not to defend or make excuses for the MAGAt riots but to argue that they're all bad and that the response from our politicians and law enforcement should be consistent.
I agree that many Trump supporters have bought into a false narrative. But their feelings/anger toward the government are real and should not be dismissed simply because of the actions of the few that stormed the Capital just like the feelings/anger of people of color should not be dismissed.
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Re: 2020 General Election
UNI88 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:57 amMy comparisons of the MAGAt riots to the BLM/AnTiFa riots is not to defend or make excuses for the MAGAt riots but to argue that they're all bad and that the response from our politicians and law enforcement should be consistent.Ibanez wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:48 am It's true. Republicans on here have rationalized and made excuses for a violent protest and have spent pages comparing it to BLM/Antifa.
Trump supporters vandalized and looted the US Capital b/c they believe a false narrative of a stolen election. 75M people aren't being disenfranchised - they're just upset and are choosing to believe a theory that isn't based on any facts instead of accepting reality (kind of like Democrats in 2016).
And suggesting that'd prefer the loot a Target is asinine. My position on BLM is painfully obvious. Go back to those threads, you'll not see a single post of mine supporting BLM/Antifa. Your entire post is making excuses.
People did bad things. It's perfectly alright to say they're wrong and that anyone that inspired their acts and/or urged them on shares the blame.
I agree that many Trump supporters have bought into a false narrative. But their feelings/anger toward the government are real and should not be dismissed simply because of the actions of the few that stormed the Capital just like the feelings/anger of people of color should not be dismissed.
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Re: 2020 General Election
As the resident purveyor of post partisanship on CS.com I approve of this post.UNI88 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:57 amMy comparisons of the MAGAt riots to the BLM/AnTiFa riots is not to defend or make excuses for the MAGAt riots but to argue that they're all bad and that the response from our politicians and law enforcement should be consistent.Ibanez wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:48 am It's true. Republicans on here have rationalized and made excuses for a violent protest and have spent pages comparing it to BLM/Antifa.
Trump supporters vandalized and looted the US Capital b/c they believe a false narrative of a stolen election. 75M people aren't being disenfranchised - they're just upset and are choosing to believe a theory that isn't based on any facts instead of accepting reality (kind of like Democrats in 2016).
And suggesting that'd prefer the loot a Target is asinine. My position on BLM is painfully obvious. Go back to those threads, you'll not see a single post of mine supporting BLM/Antifa. Your entire post is making excuses.
People did bad things. It's perfectly alright to say they're wrong and that anyone that inspired their acts and/or urged them on shares the blame.
I agree that many Trump supporters have bought into a false narrative. But their feelings/anger toward the government are real and should not be dismissed simply because of the actions of the few that stormed the Capital just like the feelings/anger of people of color should not be dismissed.
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I think we can call it a day then.kalm wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:04 pmAs the resident purveyor of post partisanship on CS.com I approve of this post.UNI88 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:57 am
My comparisons of the MAGAt riots to the BLM/AnTiFa riots is not to defend or make excuses for the MAGAt riots but to argue that they're all bad and that the response from our politicians and law enforcement should be consistent.
I agree that many Trump supporters have bought into a false narrative. But their feelings/anger toward the government are real and should not be dismissed simply because of the actions of the few that stormed the Capital just like the feelings/anger of people of color should not be dismissed.
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You guys are tiresome on this issue.
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Re: 2020 General Election
Let's hit the bar, Kalm's buying and he's our designated driver! Win/win!
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Re: 2020 General Election
I’m in! I’ll expense it to my kalmunist party account.
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And its just as easy to say that's BS. There sure as hell weren't 90%, or even 50%, condemning the defacing & tearing down of monuments & statues, which is a form of violence.kalm wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:40 amCondemning is not the same as making excuses.
For example, it’s easy to say 90% of Democrats condemned last summer’s violence and looting....while agreeing with the need for peaceful protests.
I agree with Ibanez on the script flipping just not your numbers based on what I’ve seen and read.
..peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard..
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Re: 2020 General Election
All that is showing is the little blue bird symbol.
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Re: 2020 General Election
Except for the Somalian, and the rest of the AOC half of the democrat party..
..peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard..
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I agree.
I want to sous vide something. What are you thinking? I need to check out the farmers market - a buddy of mine says there's a butcher there that gives good deals when you buy in "bulk."
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Here's something you and I can agree on - The Squad and the "progressives" of the Democrat Party are bat-shit crazy. I can't stand AOChe and her ilk.
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In your opinion. According to the below poll, 70% of conks, 30% of independents, and 2% of donks believe otherwise.Ibanez wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:48 amIt's true. Republicans on here have rationalized and made excuses for a violent protest and have spent pages comparing it to BLM/Antifa.AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:22 am
come on Mark. You're smarter than that.
If the Trump supporters had gone and looted a Target because they were made at Congress, then your analogy would make sense. But what would you have them do? 75,000,000 people being disenfranchised all at once and they're supposed to just sit around and turn the other cheek and say, "thank you sir, may I have another"? Or maybe you'd RATHER they loot a Target?
Trump supporters vandalized and looted the US Capital b/c they believe a false narrative of a stolen election. 75M people aren't being disenfranchised - they're just upset and are choosing to believe a theory that isn't based on any facts instead of accepting reality (kind of like Democrats in 2016).
And suggesting that'd prefer the loot a Target is asinine. My position on BLM is painfully obvious. Go back to those threads, you'll not see a single post of mine supporting BLM/Antifa. Your entire post is making excuses.
People did bad things. It's perfectly alright to say they're wrong and that anyone that inspired their acts and/or urged them on shares the blame.
https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-de ... aseID=3685
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70% of Republicans believe otherwise? Really, you don't say. Is it perhaps they're being fed the lies and misinformation?BDKJMU wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:13 pmIn your opinion. 70% of conks, 30% of independents, and 2% of donks believe otherwise.Ibanez wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:48 am It's true. Republicans on here have rationalized and made excuses for a violent protest and have spent pages comparing it to BLM/Antifa.
Trump supporters vandalized and looted the US Capital b/c they believe a false narrative of a stolen election. 75M people aren't being disenfranchised - they're just upset and are choosing to believe a theory that isn't based on any facts instead of accepting reality (kind of like Democrats in 2016).
And suggesting that'd prefer the loot a Target is asinine. My position on BLM is painfully obvious. Go back to those threads, you'll not see a single post of mine supporting BLM/Antifa. Your entire post is making excuses.
People did bad things. It's perfectly alright to say they're wrong and that anyone that inspired their acts and/or urged them on shares the blame.
https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-de ... aseID=3685
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