JoltinJoe wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 12:20 pm
My dad and uncle grew up in Bayonne, NJ, across the street from a guy who went on to become a NJ labor leader/mobster very active in Hudson County and state politics.
My uncle knew this pretty well because they were the same age and went to school together all through high school.
Any way, years later, my uncle ran into him leaving a polling place on election day. So my uncle asked his old classmate why it took the voting precincts in that area to report vote counts.
So the guy replied: "Come on. We gotta know how many votes we need before we report."
If you think the vote counting after-the-fact is on the up and up, you're dreaming. It's almost comical that we are told to accept that the "mail-in vote" comes from Democrats as an explanation as to why every extended count results in enough votes to wipe out any lead less than 2% by a Republican on election night.
I saw PA AG Josh Shapiro explaining that all is well, that the vote counters were "volunteers," and I almost laughed out loud. Where I come from, those "volunteers" include many people very loyal to the labor unions, if you catch my drift. But I'm sure Philly is clean as a whistle.
It's amazing how blatantly corrupt elections in the US used to be, heck, for at least the first 170 years or so of this country. Obviously tons of crap in the 1800's, especially after Reconstruction and the sheer violence that coincided with election day, mostly in the South, but far more than you realize in the north as well. Reading an LBJ book recently and the first election for Congress he lost was when he "released" "his votes" too early, before his competitor, and he lost because the competitor knew how many votes he now needed. LBJ didn't make that mistake again and, just like JJ notes above, LBJ waited to release his votes until he knew what was needed. And that happened at least in the open well into the 1960's.
We're still so antiquated in terms of election technology. Heck, in PA you couldn't even do a recount back in 2016 (so just 4 years ago) because there were no paper copies of the ballots that were cast. No paper trail whatsoever, you hit buttons to turn on lights next to the person you wanted, hit the "cast" button at the bottom, and just hoped everything went well. When Jill Stein sued for a recount, PA said all we had were the numbers, didn't have any actual votes to recount. Pretty dubious that we decided that postmarks weren't needed on mail in ballots (that were mailed in). You have to think that is going to be looked back on as a poor decision. Even if there is no skullduggery, something like that will just feed the trolls.