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SDHornet wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:49 pm
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Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:31 am

You think? The Trump supporters on this site have said they'd lie to a pollster if asked - and then bitch about the integrity of polls. :roll: I think 2020 is different. We've had 4 years of division, crisis, gaffes, MSM, etc... His supporters are so much more vocal now than in 2016. I'd say some still lie about it (punk bitches) but not nearly as much as 2016. :twocents:
Difference between 2016 and 2020 wrt to this issue is that there have been violence against Trump supporters, and plenty of people don't seem to have an issue with this escalation. So yeah, I'd be inclined to think your typical non-vocal Trump supporters (the silent majority if you will) wouldn't be in a hurry to tell a pollster who they are voting for.
I think the idea that Trump supporters are afraid to say they are Trump supporters was way overplayed in 2016 and if it's a factor at all i poling now I don't think it is much. From what I can tell Trump supporters generally do not hide the fact that they are Trump supporters.

They SHOULD be ashamed to be Trump supporters. But I don't think that they are.
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Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:26 pm
At this point I would be very optimistic about getting rid of Trump if we were in normal circumstances such as those that prevailed during every Presidential election of my lifetime through 2012. But there are a few things that really concern me:

1) People who are going to vote for Biden are more likely to be rational about the COVID-19 thing and attempt to vote by mail or by drop box. There is risk that a given person who votes by mail will make a mistake so that their vote is not counted.

2) Republicans are working very hard to suppress voting in areas where high percentages are likely to vote Democrat. So far they are having limited success but there are certain court decisions that are tenuous.

3) The Russians do want Trump to win and they have been doing things. I do not think I can rule out stuff like having people in heavily Democrat districts showing up and finding out there is no record of their being registered to vote, more "October Surprise" misinformation, etc. The Russians are in this and they really want Trump to win because Trump being President hurts the United States and helps them. That worries me.
The Russians might favor Trump but China and Iran favor Biden. You're bias causes you to focus on things that are negatives for Trump rather than seeing the entire situation.

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Didn't we just catch Iran sending emails to registered Democrats in Florida telling them to vote for Trump?
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UNI88 wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:39 pm
JohnStOnge wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:26 pm
At this point I would be very optimistic about getting rid of Trump if we were in normal circumstances such as those that prevailed during every Presidential election of my lifetime through 2012. But there are a few things that really concern me:

1) People who are going to vote for Biden are more likely to be rational about the COVID-19 thing and attempt to vote by mail or by drop box. There is risk that a given person who votes by mail will make a mistake so that their vote is not counted.

2) Republicans are working very hard to suppress voting in areas where high percentages are likely to vote Democrat. So far they are having limited success but there are certain court decisions that are tenuous.

3) The Russians do want Trump to win and they have been doing things. I do not think I can rule out stuff like having people in heavily Democrat districts showing up and finding out there is no record of their being registered to vote, more "October Surprise" misinformation, etc. The Russians are in this and they really want Trump to win because Trump being President hurts the United States and helps them. That worries me.
The Russians might favor Trump but China and Iran favor Biden. You're bias causes you to focus on things that are negatives for Trump rather than seeing the entire situation.
As has been reported many times, Russia is a much bigger problem in this area than China or Iran are. All I'm talking about here is what worries me. And I do not think China and Iran are anywhere near as involved in trying to influence this election as Russia is. I also think the FBI would agree with me.
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JohnStOnge wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:43 pm
UNI88 wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:39 pm

The Russians might favor Trump but China and Iran favor Biden. You're bias causes you to focus on things that are negatives for Trump rather than seeing the entire situation.
As has been reported many times, Russia is a much bigger problem in this area than China or Iran are. All I'm talking about here is what worries me. And I do not think China and Iran are anywhere near as involved in trying to influence this election as Russia is. I also think the FBI would agree with me.
You're bias causes you to focus on things that are negatives for Trump rather than seeing the entire situation.

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Didn't we just catch Iran sending emails to registered Democrats in Florida telling them to vote for Trump?

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Re: 2020 General Election

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Ibanez wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:31 am
UNI88 wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:49 am


I think there might still be a lot of potential Trump voters who aren't being honest with pollsters so I have no idea what will happen. Could be close or it could be a landslide for Biden.



I do think that a landslide for Biden would be much more of a rebuke for Trump than a mandate for Biden and progressive policies.
You think? The Trump supporters on this site have said they'd lie to a pollster if asked - and then bitch about the integrity of polls. :roll: I think 2020 is different. We've had 4 years of division, crisis, gaffes, MSM, etc... His supporters are so much more vocal now than in 2016. I'd say some still lie about it (punk bitches) but not nearly as much as 2016. :twocents:
So people who lie to pollsters are punk bitches. Um..Ok.. :roll:
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UNI88 wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:45 pm
JohnStOnge wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:43 pm


As has been reported many times, Russia is a much bigger problem in this area than China or Iran are. All I'm talking about here is what worries me. And I do not think China and Iran are anywhere near as involved in trying to influence this election as Russia is. I also think the FBI would agree with me.
You're bias causes you to focus on things that are negatives for Trump rather than seeing the entire situation.
You should have seen his analysis of Covington Catholic.
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Ibanez wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:28 am
BDKJMU wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:03 am

He’s not a “current” rapper?

The only rappers I could have named are the Ice guys: Ice Cube, Ice T, and Vanilla Ice. And Tupac and Biggy Smalls? And M&M...6 is pretty good for someone who doesn’t listen to rap..
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SDHornet wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:49 pm
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Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:31 am

You think? The Trump supporters on this site have said they'd lie to a pollster if asked - and then bitch about the integrity of polls. :roll: I think 2020 is different. We've had 4 years of division, crisis, gaffes, MSM, etc... His supporters are so much more vocal now than in 2016. I'd say some still lie about it (punk bitches) but not nearly as much as 2016. :twocents:
Difference between 2016 and 2020 wrt to this issue is that there have been violence against Trump supporters, and plenty of people don't seem to have an issue with this escalation. So yeah, I'd be inclined to think your typical non-vocal Trump supporters (the silent majority if you will) wouldn't be in a hurry to tell a pollster who they are voting for.
They're chickenshit. :coffee:
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Baldy wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:56 am
kalm wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:58 am
Why Trump is toast.

(We will see)

https://thebulwark.com/trump-is-toast/? ... claPAWi-4M
bUlWARk. :lol:
I received the exact same response from a FB friend. Sykes and Kristin are CINO’s.

Conks eating their own.

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This is the foreign policy we’ll get with Biden...brilliant people who think they know everything...

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BDKJMU wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:20 pm
Ibanez wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:28 am


The Ice Guys...i love that. :clap: :clap: :notworthy: :notworthy:

Surely you've heard of the Beastie Boys? Run DMC? Kurtis Blow? Dr. Dre? Fresh Prince and DJ Jazzy Jeff?
Beatie Boys: Yes, forgot about them.
Run DMC: Yes, but forgot about him.
Blow: No
Dr Dre: Vaguely
Fresh Prince and DJ Jazzy Jeff: Vaguely.
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Good god, you’re whiter than kalm!

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kalm wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:04 am
Baldy wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:56 am

bUlWARk. :lol:
I received the exact same response from a FB friend. Sykes and Kristin are CINO’s.

Conks eating their own.

:lol:
BuLwArK :lol:

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Baldy wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:31 am
kalm wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:04 am

I received the exact same response from a FB friend. Sykes and Kristin are CINO’s.

Conks eating their own.

:lol:
BuLwArK :lol:
Are they kind of like the left's version of the NY Post?

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Re: 2020 General Election

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UNI88 wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:39 am
Baldy wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:31 am

BuLwArK :lol:
Are they kind of like the left's version of the NY Post?
Center right folks who still believe there’s room for well reasoned and respectful conservative opinions and like the Lincoln Project, terrified of the damage that’s being done to the Republican brand.
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kalm wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:43 am
UNI88 wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:39 am

Are they kind of like the left's version of the NY Post?
Center right folks who still believe there’s room for well reasoned and respectful conservative opinions and like the Lincoln Project, terrified of the damage that’s being done to the Republican brand.
So they're less biased and more reputable than the NY Post.

Who fills that role for the Democrats? We need a Kennedy Project.

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kalm wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:12 am
BDKJMU wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:20 pm

Beatie Boys: Yes, forgot about them.
Run DMC: Yes, but forgot about him.
Blow: No
Dr Dre: Vaguely
Fresh Prince and DJ Jazzy Jeff: Vaguely.
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Good god, you’re whiter than kalm!

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Baldy wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:31 am
kalm wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:04 am


I received the exact same response from a FB friend. Sykes and Kristin are CINO’s.

Conks eating their own.

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BuLwArK :lol:
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UNI88 wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:39 am
Baldy wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:31 am

BuLwArK :lol:
Are they kind of like the left's version of the NY Post?
Super Donk and Hillary lover Peter Daou gives a very good description...



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When they say the silent part out loud.


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kalm wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:43 am
UNI88 wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:39 am


Are they kind of like the left's version of the NY Post?
Center right folks who still believe there’s room for well reasoned and respectful conservative opinions and like the Lincoln Project, terrified of the damage that’s being done to the Republican brand.
The Lincoln Project is a bunch of grifters that are are doing a great job of milking gullible Dems for money that they pay to consulting firms they own to make ads against Trump.

Edit: I see Baldy beat me to it. :lol:
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Baldy wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:54 pm
When they say the silent part out loud.

:shock: :suspicious: :dunce: :lol: :rofl:
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HI54UNI wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:00 pm
kalm wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:43 am


Center right folks who still believe there’s room for well reasoned and respectful conservative opinions and like the Lincoln Project, terrified of the damage that’s being done to the Republican brand.
The Lincoln Project is a bunch of grifters that are are doing a great job of milking gullible Dems for money that they pay to consulting firms they own to make ads against Trump.

Edit: I see Baldy beat me to it. :lol:
That they are. Who isn’t a grifter in politics?
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