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kalm wrote:
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It's the FBI. Do I really have to tell you how to get there?
It was your assertion. A working link would be nice...if you actually had anything....thanks for trying tho.
At this point there can be no doubt that you are willfully ignorant. Crime stats are readily accessible all over the internet. I'm sure you are even aware of crime stats concerning blacks, but you just don't want to acknowledge them.
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CitadelGrad wrote:
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It was your assertion. A working link would be nice...if you actually had anything....thanks for trying tho.
At this point there can be no doubt that you are willfully ignorant. Crime stats are readily accessible all over the internet. I'm sure you are even aware of crime stats concerning blacks, but you just don't want to acknowledge them.
I’m sure you can easily find supporting stats, Champ. You’re just being lazy.

Look for the ones that correlate pigmentation to violence without any other variables.

For example...southerners favor BBC porn more than any other region...
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It was your assertion. A working link would be nice...if you actually had anything....thanks for trying tho.
At this point there can be no doubt that you are willfully ignorant. Crime stats are readily accessible all over the internet. I'm sure you are even aware of crime stats concerning blacks, but you just don't want to acknowledge them.
Crime stats concerning blacks are racist and should be removed from the internet.

It's systemic

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kalm wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:58 am
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At this point there can be no doubt that you are willfully ignorant. Crime stats are readily accessible all over the internet. I'm sure you are even aware of crime stats concerning blacks, but you just don't want to acknowledge them.
I’m sure you can easily find supporting stats, Champ. You’re just being lazy.

Look for the ones that correlate pigmentation to violence without any other variables.

For example...southerners favor BBC porn more than any other region...
What the fuck does porn have to do with astonishing amount of violent crime committed by the Negro? How do you know the southern negro isn't watching all that BBC porn? They do have blacks in the South, you know.

What variables would you like to talk about? Perhaps the low rate of two-parent black families? Then we could get into the effects on education, income, crime, etc that single-parent or single-mother families produce. Then we could get into the causes of the decline of black two-parent families over the past 50 years (hint: it ain't whitey's fault).

Perhaps we could talk about the systemic racism that exists in cities that are run by blacks -- mayors, district attorneys, city council, police chiefs, etc. Baltimore, Detroit, Atlanta ... the list goes on. If blacks are running the show in those cities, how could there possibly be systemic racism?
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CitadelGrad wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:26 am
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I’m sure you can easily find supporting stats, Champ. You’re just being lazy.

Look for the ones that correlate pigmentation to violence without any other variables.

For example...southerners favor BBC porn more than any other region...
What the fuck does porn have to do with astonishing amount of violent crime committed by the Negro? How do you know the southern negro isn't watching all that BBC porn? They do have blacks in the South, you know.

What variables would you like to talk about? Perhaps the low rate of two-parent black families? Then we could get into the effects on education, income, crime, etc that single-parent or single-mother families produce. Then we could get into the causes of the decline of black two-parent families over the past 50 years (hint: it ain't whitey's fault).

Perhaps we could talk about the systemic racism that exists in cities that are run by blacks -- mayors, district attorneys, city council, police chiefs, etc. Baltimore, Detroit, Atlanta ... the list goes on. If blacks are running the show in those cities, how could there possibly be systemic racism?
Your statement that is being questioned is "We are talking about the Negro. They are irrationally violent." How does what you've posted prove that the Negro is "irrationally violent"?

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UNI88 wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:34 am
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What the fuck does porn have to do with astonishing amount of violent crime committed by the Negro? How do you know the southern negro isn't watching all that BBC porn? They do have blacks in the South, you know.

What variables would you like to talk about? Perhaps the low rate of two-parent black families? Then we could get into the effects on education, income, crime, etc that single-parent or single-mother families produce. Then we could get into the causes of the decline of black two-parent families over the past 50 years (hint: it ain't whitey's fault).

Perhaps we could talk about the systemic racism that exists in cities that are run by blacks -- mayors, district attorneys, city council, police chiefs, etc. Baltimore, Detroit, Atlanta ... the list goes on. If blacks are running the show in those cities, how could there possibly be systemic racism?
Your statement that is being questioned is "We are talking about the Negro. They are irrationally violent." How does what you've posted prove that the Negro is "irrationally violent"?
It doesn't... Just proves that he is a flaming KKK racist.
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BDKJMU wrote: Got cancelled last week, as did COPS, because apparently we can't have police shows any more..
Thank God now get rid of all the shit cop programs on TV like NCIS, Chicago whatever and Blue Bloods.

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Agreed on the scripted shows being shitty. The only one I watched was Live PD (and I know it wasn't 'Live' Live). Bottom line is shitty shows or not, they shouldn't be cancelled because of liberal snowflakes.

Live PD was the #1 watched show in all of cable television. Mind boggling that they would cancel it. Its like eyeballs/ratings don't mean anything.
What makes even less sense, is they've taken off reruns. They're replacing it with stuff that less people are going to watch. I don't get it.

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Agreed on the scripted shows being shitty. The only one I watched was Live PD (and I know it wasn't 'Live' Live). Bottom line is shitty shows or not, they shouldn't be cancelled because of liberal snowflakes.

Live PD was the #1 watched show in all of cable television. Mind boggling that they would cancel it. Its like eyeballs/ratings don't mean anything.
What makes even less sense, is they've taken off reruns. They're replacing it with stuff that less people are going to watch. I don't get it.
That shocks me that live PD was #1. Never watched it because cop shows suck but it blows me away it had that many viewers.

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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 10:11 am
BDKJMU wrote: Agreed on the scripted shows being shitty. The only one I watched was Live PD (and I know it wasn't 'Live' Live). Bottom line is shitty shows or not, they shouldn't be cancelled because of liberal snowflakes.

Live PD was the #1 watched show in all of cable television. Mind boggling that they would cancel it. Its like eyeballs/ratings don't mean anything.
What makes even less sense, is they've taken off reruns. They're replacing it with stuff that less people are going to watch. I don't get it.
That shocks me that live PD was #1. Never watched it because cop shows suck but it blows me away it had that many viewers.

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Because it wasn't scripted, left leaning Hollywood BS. Over 4 seasons (I didn't start watching until Season 3, but watched some Season 1-2 re runs), up to 8 departments at a time. Not sure why it was mostly red state departments (40 of 49 by my count). Most of those were Sheriff's Dept (29 by my count). They even had Missoula Co Sheriffs Dept on late Season 3 (last Fall). I realize:
-they put the camera crews with the most experienced, competent officers, well spoken officers most likely to look good on camera (sometimes with specialized anti crime or anti gang units)
-the officers probably acted different knowing there was a camera crew(s).
-it was on a delay (and sometimes they showed stuff from earlier in the day, week)
But outside of that it wasn't fake acting/scripted- that's what made it so popular.

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UNI88 wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:34 am
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What the fuck does porn have to do with astonishing amount of violent crime committed by the Negro? How do you know the southern negro isn't watching all that BBC porn? They do have blacks in the South, you know.

What variables would you like to talk about? Perhaps the low rate of two-parent black families? Then we could get into the effects on education, income, crime, etc that single-parent or single-mother families produce. Then we could get into the causes of the decline of black two-parent families over the past 50 years (hint: it ain't whitey's fault).

Perhaps we could talk about the systemic racism that exists in cities that are run by blacks -- mayors, district attorneys, city council, police chiefs, etc. Baltimore, Detroit, Atlanta ... the list goes on. If blacks are running the show in those cities, how could there possibly be systemic racism?
Your statement that is being questioned is "We are talking about the Negro. They are irrationally violent." How does what you've posted prove that the Negro is "irrationally violent"?
The disproportionality of their violent crime rates.
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dbackjon wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:38 am
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Your statement that is being questioned is "We are talking about the Negro. They are irrationally violent." How does what you've posted prove that the Negro is "irrationally violent"?
It doesn't... Just proves that he is a flaming KKK racist.
Can you actually refute anything I wrote? BTW, everything I wrote is well documented and has been acknowledged by many blacks who have left the Dem plantation.
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CitadelGrad wrote:
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Your statement that is being questioned is "We are talking about the Negro. They are irrationally violent." How does what you've posted prove that the Negro is "irrationally violent"?
The disproportionality of their violent crime rates.
Maybe if all of that violent crime occurred in a bubble with no other variables but it doesn't. I would guess that socio-economic status is significantly more indicative of violent crime rates than skin color. Your arguments demonstrate your own racial bias.

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Howard said following the shooting, the officers failed to give Brooks any medical attention for 2 minutes and 12 seconds.

“During that 2 minutes and 12 seconds, Officer Rolfe actually kicked Mr. Brooks as he laid on the ground, while he was there fighting for his life,” Howard said. “Officer Brosnan actually stood on Mr. Brooks shoulder.”

Howard said his office concluded at time of Brooks’ death, he did not pose a threat to the officers. He said Brooks was running away from the officers when Rolfe shot him in the back two times.

“We have also concluded that Rolfe was aware that the Taser in Brooks’ possession, it was fired twice, and once it’s fired twice it presented no danger to him or to any other persons,” Howard said.



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Howard said his office concluded at time of Brooks’ death, he did not pose a threat to the officers. He said Brooks was running away from the officers when Rolfe shot him in the back two times.

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I watched the 1st 15 min or so of the press conference. The DA mentioned Brooks polite, compliant manner, no mention of the professional manner by the officers as shown on the bodycams. No mention that Brooks resisted arrest, assaulted the officers, or stole the taser (he did mention Brooks fired the taser at Rolfe, but completely downplayed it. The DA appeared to be going out of his way to make the officers look in the worst possible light, and Brooks in the best possible light. Completely one sided.

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Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:38 pm
I watched the 1st 15 min or so of the press conference. The DA mentioned Brooks polite, compliant manner, no mention of the professional manner by the officers as shown on the bodycams. No mention that Brooks resisted arrest, assaulted the officers, or stole the taser (he did mention Brooks fired the taser at Rolfe, but completely downplayed it. The DA appeared to be going out of his way to make the officers look in the worst possible light, and Brooks in the best possible light. Completely one sided.
The officers will have their day in court. Brooks won't.

But what's the saying - if you aren't doing anything wrong, you don't have anything to worry about...
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UNI88 wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:55 pm
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The disproportionality of their violent crime rates.
Maybe if all of that violent crime occurred in a bubble with no other variables but it doesn't. I would guess that socio-economic status is significantly more indicative of violent crime rates than skin color. Your arguments demonstrate your own racial bias.
I've already addressed some of the significant variables. Skin color doesn't have anything to do with it. It's a matter of culture -- or lack thereof. Whites, Asians, and Hispanics also commit more crimes if they come from families where there is no father present. The difference is that more white, Asiana and Hispanic families remain together or if not, the father is still a strong presence in the lives of the children.

Only about 20% of black children come from two-parent homes. 50 years ago, only 20% didn't come from two-parent homes.

Disturbingly, one of the stated goals of BLM is the disruption of the nuclear family. It's right there on their web site.

They can tear down all the statues they want and rename all the building they want, etc., etc., but none of that will change their dysfunctional culture. The problem with blacks is blacks. 7000 blacks were murdered last year. Damn near all of them were murdered by other blacks.
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BDKJMU wrote:
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I watched the 1st 15 min or so of the press conference. The DA mentioned Brooks polite, compliant manner, no mention of the professional manner by the officers as shown on the bodycams. No mention that Brooks resisted arrest, assaulted the officers, or stole the taser (he did mention Brooks fired the taser at Rolfe, but completely downplayed it. The DA appeared to be going out of his way to make the officers look in the worst possible light, and Brooks in the best possible light. Completely one sided.
It isn't uncommon for prosecutors to prosecute in the court of public opinion before they prosecute in a court of law if they know they don't have a strong case.
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CitadelGrad wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 2:05 pm
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Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:55 pm


Maybe if all of that violent crime occurred in a bubble with no other variables but it doesn't. I would guess that socio-economic status is significantly more indicative of violent crime rates than skin color. Your arguments demonstrate your own racial bias.
I've already addressed some of the significant variables. Skin color doesn't have anything to do with it. It's a matter of culture -- or lack thereof. Whites, Asians, and Hispanics also commit more crimes if they come from families where there is no father present. The difference is that more white, Asiana and Hispanic families remain together or if not, the father is still a strong presence in the lives of the children.

Only about 20% of black children come from two-parent homes. 50 years ago, only 20% didn't come from two-parent homes.

Disturbingly, one of the stated goals of BLM is the disruption of the nuclear family. It's right there on their web site.

They can tear down all the statues they want and rename all the building they want, etc., etc., but none of that will change their dysfunctional culture. The problem with blacks is blacks. 7000 blacks were murdered last year. Damn near all of them were murdered by other blacks.
Are there white negroes?
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I'm surprised Mediate put this on their site. Ted Williams (attorney and former DC homicide detective) lays out why this is a crock, and Rolfe is going to be found not guilty:
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I've already addressed some of the significant variables. Skin color doesn't have anything to do with it. It's a matter of culture -- or lack thereof. Whites, Asians, and Hispanics also commit more crimes if they come from families where there is no father present. The difference is that more white, Asiana and Hispanic families remain together or if not, the father is still a strong presence in the lives of the children.

Only about 20% of black children come from two-parent homes. 50 years ago, only 20% didn't come from two-parent homes.

Disturbingly, one of the stated goals of BLM is the disruption of the nuclear family. It's right there on their web site.

They can tear down all the statues they want and rename all the building they want, etc., etc., but none of that will change their dysfunctional culture. The problem with blacks is blacks. 7000 blacks were murdered last year. Damn near all of them were murdered by other blacks.
Are there white negroes?
I think that’s what he’s saying. Asian and brown ones too.
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Are there white negroes?
I think that’s what he’s saying. Asian and brown ones too.
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Maybe if all of that violent crime occurred in a bubble with no other variables but it doesn't. I would guess that socio-economic status is significantly more indicative of violent crime rates than skin color. Your arguments demonstrate your own racial bias.
I've already addressed some of the significant variables. Skin color doesn't have anything to do with it. It's a matter of culture -- or lack thereof. Whites, Asians, and Hispanics also commit more crimes if they come from families where there is no father present. The difference is that more white, Asiana and Hispanic families remain together or if not, the father is still a strong presence in the lives of the children.

Only about 20% of black children come from two-parent homes. 50 years ago, only 20% didn't come from two-parent homes.

Disturbingly, one of the stated goals of BLM is the disruption of the nuclear family. It's right there on their web site.

They can tear down all the statues they want and rename all the building they want, etc., etc., but none of that will change their dysfunctional culture. The problem with blacks is blacks. 7000 blacks were murdered last year. Damn near all of them were murdered by other blacks.
I'll let Kalm take the lead on Negroes being "irrationally violent" and focus on the disruption of the nuclear family ...

I don't particularly like that goal but there is some leeway for interpretation of the intent of that goal. What is the "Western-prescribed nuclear family" that they want to disrupt? Could it be that they are advocating for acceptance of a broader definition of family to include ones with 2 mothers, 2 fathers or gender fluid parents? I have no problem with LGBTQ parents if they chose to adopt or have children via a surrogate.

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UNI88 wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 3:34 pm
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I've already addressed some of the significant variables. Skin color doesn't have anything to do with it. It's a matter of culture -- or lack thereof. Whites, Asians, and Hispanics also commit more crimes if they come from families where there is no father present. The difference is that more white, Asiana and Hispanic families remain together or if not, the father is still a strong presence in the lives of the children.

Only about 20% of black children come from two-parent homes. 50 years ago, only 20% didn't come from two-parent homes.

Disturbingly, one of the stated goals of BLM is the disruption of the nuclear family. It's right there on their web site.

They can tear down all the statues they want and rename all the building they want, etc., etc., but none of that will change their dysfunctional culture. The problem with blacks is blacks. 7000 blacks were murdered last year. Damn near all of them were murdered by other blacks.
I'll let Kalm take the lead on Negroes being "irrationally violent" and focus on the disruption of the nuclear family ...

I don't particularly like that goal but there is some leeway for interpretation of the intent of that goal. What is the "Western-prescribed nuclear family" that they want to disrupt? Could it be that they are advocating for acceptance of a broader definition of family to include ones with 2 mothers, 2 fathers or gender fluid parents? I have no problem with LGBTQ parents if they chose to adopt or have children via a surrogate.
Pretty much.

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Right-wing media are now attempting to cast a new boogeyman against the Black Lives Matter movement and the country’s ongoing protests over police brutality by claiming they’re not just about racial justice — but about a radical plot to destroy the institution of the family in America.

This attack hinges on some of the inclusive language of the “What We Believe” page on the national Black Lives Matter website, describing the intersection of LGBTQ rights and racial justice. The actual text in question both affirms the health and vibrancy of families while also calling for a greater overall diversity of what that should mean in practice:
BLM wrote:We make our spaces family-friendly and enable parents to fully participate with their children. We dismantle the patriarchal practice that requires mothers to work “double shifts” so that they can mother in private even as they participate in public justice work.

We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.

We foster a queer‐affirming network. When we gather, we do so with the intention of freeing ourselves from the tight grip of heteronormative thinking, or rather, the belief that all in the world are heterosexual (unless s/he or they disclose otherwise).

So the right-wing gets upset over the non-straight portion. I don't like the "Western-prescribed nuclear family structure" bit as what they are advocating really isn't that uncommon in small towns, some western nations, etc.
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Re: Here we go again- Atlanta

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dbackjon wrote:Howard said following the shooting, the officers failed to give Brooks any medical attention for 2 minutes and 12 seconds.

“During that 2 minutes and 12 seconds, Officer Rolfe actually kicked Mr. Brooks as he laid on the ground, while he was there fighting for his life,” Howard said. “Officer Brosnan actually stood on Mr. Brooks shoulder.”

Howard said his office concluded at time of Brooks’ death, he did not pose a threat to the officers. He said Brooks was running away from the officers when Rolfe shot him in the back two times.

“We have also concluded that Rolfe was aware that the Taser in Brooks’ possession, it was fired twice, and once it’s fired twice it presented no danger to him or to any other persons,” Howard said.



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