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Chizzang wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 8:11 pm
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We shouldn't worry. China doesn't have our greatest strength, diversity. Checkmate, conks. :coffee:
So you're telling me we've been wasting 600 billion dollars a year ..?



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You'd think for that kind of money we wouldn't have to let no chinamen push us around like that :ohno:
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houndawg wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 8:20 am
Chizzang wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 8:11 pm


So you're telling me we've been wasting 600 billion dollars a year ..?



:ohno:
You'd think for that kind of money we wouldn't have to let no chinamen push us around like that :ohno:
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kalm wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 8:28 am
houndawg wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 8:20 am


You'd think for that kind of money we wouldn't have to let no chinamen push us around like that :ohno:
They all look the same.
My grandpa was terrified of them, said if we let them in they'd own the country in short order. Liked Mexicans, hated Chinese. Used to wag his finger at me and wax poetic...he'd say: chinky chinky chinaman sittin on a fence, tryin to make a dollar out of fifteen cents.
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houndawg wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 8:36 am
kalm wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 8:28 am


They all look the same.
My grandpa was terrified of them, said if we let them in they'd own the country in short order. Liked Mexicans, hated Chinese. Used to wag his finger at me and wax poetic...he'd say: chinky chinky chinaman sittin on a fence, tryin to make a dollar out of fifteen cents.
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Re: China

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houndawg wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 8:20 am
Chizzang wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 8:11 pm


So you're telling me we've been wasting 600 billion dollars a year ..?



:ohno:
You'd think for that kind of money we wouldn't have to let no chinamen push us around like that :ohno:
well usually they tell us that the 600 billion a year is how Ronnie defeated the Russians
so... you know... if it worked once lets keep doing that
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Chizzang wrote:
houndawg wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 8:20 am


You'd think for that kind of money we wouldn't have to let no chinamen push us around like that :ohno:
well usually they tell us that the 600 billion a year is how Ronnie defeated the Russians
so... you know... if it worked once lets keep doing that
Well its true

We exploited a broken economic system. Argue it wasn’t the the case, fine. But the USSR did in fact run out of cash trying to keep up

Given that our foreign policy on China since Nixon has been to bolster them economically by allowing them into world markets AND given that we have only taken the PLA seriously for just the last 10 years.... I’d say that isn’t the strategy behind the spending

But yeah... we went to Afghanistan for the minerals and we’re spending on the military to bankrupt our creditors

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Chizzang wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 2:39 pm
houndawg wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 8:20 am


You'd think for that kind of money we wouldn't have to let no chinamen push us around like that :ohno:
well usually they tell us that the 600 billion a year is how Ronnie defeated the Russians
so... you know... if it worked once lets keep doing that
We didn't defeat the Russians.
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dbackjon wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 5:35 pm
Chizzang wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 2:39 pm


well usually they tell us that the 600 billion a year is how Ronnie defeated the Russians
so... you know... if it worked once lets keep doing that
We didn't defeat the Russians.
The Russians were just playing Soviet. :lol:

CID is right. We merely outspent them. The Russian were able to get a little bits of freedom after Gorbechev's rise to power and from there on it was a only a matter of time. The policies of "demokratizatsiya " and "Glasnost" did so much from a liberalism perspective that coupled with the shitty economy (and rising alcohol costs! :) ) collapse was shortly ahead.
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China effectively putting an end to “One Country, Two Systems” in Hong Kong

Did anybody really believe them in the 1990s anyway?


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CID1990 wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 4:59 pm


But yeah... we went to Afghanistan for the minerals and we’re spending on the military to bankrupt our creditors

10-4 Houndawg
well F*ck me...
I still can't figure out why we're in Afghanistan (makes zero sense)

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anything - I'll bite

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Chizzang wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 7:28 pm
CID1990 wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 4:59 pm


But yeah... we went to Afghanistan for the minerals and we’re spending on the military to bankrupt our creditors

10-4 Houndawg
well F*ck me...
I still can't figure out why we're in Afghanistan (makes zero sense)

I'm accepting applications for residency explanation
anything - I'll bite

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I’m sure it has nothing to do with money.
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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 4:59 pm


But yeah... we went to Afghanistan for the minerals and we’re spending on the military to bankrupt our creditors

10-4 Houndawg
well F*ck me...
I still can't figure out why we're in Afghanistan (makes zero sense)

I'm accepting applications for residency explanation
anything - I'll bite

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“I don’t know why we’re there, so it must be for the minerals.”

Gonna name this fallacy the “Clitz Dodge”


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CID1990 wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 7:09 pm
China effectively putting an end to “One Country, Two Systems” in Hong Kong

Did anybody really believe them in the 1990s anyway?


https://hotair.com/archives/john-s-2/20 ... kong-know/
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CID1990 wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 11:04 pm
Chizzang wrote: well F*ck me...
I still can't figure out why we're in Afghanistan (makes zero sense)

I'm accepting applications for residency explanation
anything - I'll bite

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“I don’t know why we’re there, so it must be for the minerals.”

Gonna name this fallacy the “Clitz Dodge”
well I don't know why we're in the middle east
it must be for the oil worked...

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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 11:04 pm
“I don’t know why we’re there, so it must be for the minerals.”

Gonna name this fallacy the “Clitz Dodge”
well I don't know why we're in the middle east
it must be for the oil worked...

:lol:
Yeah, but whatabour Afghanistan, Houndawg?

BTW Afgh is Near East Asia


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CID1990 wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 8:36 am
Chizzang wrote:
well I don't know why we're in the middle east
it must be for the oil worked...

:lol:
Yeah, but whatabour Afghanistan, Houndawg?

BTW Afgh is Near East Asia
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CID1990 wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 8:36 am
Chizzang wrote:
well I don't know why we're in the middle east
it must be for the oil worked...

:lol:
Yeah, but whatabour Afghanistan, Houndawg?

BTW Afgh is Near East Asia

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CID1990 wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 8:36 am
Chizzang wrote:
well I don't know why we're in the middle east
it must be for the oil worked...

:lol:
Yeah, but whatabour Afghanistan, Houndawg?

BTW Afgh is Near East Asia


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This actually isn’t that alarming since it has been expected since the 1990s. I am only surprised it didn’t happen 10 years ago.


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CID1990 wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 9:07 pm
This actually isn’t that alarming since it has been expected since the 1990s. I am only surprised it didn’t happen 10 years ago.


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An Op-Ed from the editor of the Thai Enquirer


https://www.thaienquirer.com/13657/opin ... o-beijing/

This paper tends to slant anti-West but it is very pro-Democracy and is generally consistent on government belligerence

I have seen this kind of opinion around Asia over the last couple years and thought I’d post it for some perspective from overseas


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CID1990 wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 9:31 pm
An Op-Ed from the editor of the Thai Enquirer


https://www.thaienquirer.com/13657/opin ... o-beijing/

This paper tends to slant anti-West but it is very pro-Democracy and is generally consistent on government belligerence

I have seen this kind of opinion around Asia over the last couple years and thought I’d post it for some perspective from overseas


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Ivytalk wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 9:31 pm
An Op-Ed from the editor of the Thai Enquirer


https://www.thaienquirer.com/13657/opin ... o-beijing/

This paper tends to slant anti-West but it is very pro-Democracy and is generally consistent on government belligerence

I have seen this kind of opinion around Asia over the last couple years and thought I’d post it for some perspective from overseas


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This guy has a way with words. Trump’s “braggadocious” personality. Appeasement of the PRC “calcified under Obama.”

Spot-on in substance.
There are some pretty sharp tacks over here in print media. Asia in general (minus China of course) has a pretty fair, robust media

Nikkei Asian Review is probably by far one if the most excellent outlets in the world.


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CID1990 wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 4:59 pm
Chizzang wrote:
well usually they tell us that the 600 billion a year is how Ronnie defeated the Russians
so... you know... if it worked once lets keep doing that
Well its true

We exploited a broken economic system. Argue it wasn’t the the case, fine. But the USSR did in fact run out of cash trying to keep up

Given that our foreign policy on China since Nixon has been to bolster them economically by allowing them into world markets AND given that we have only taken the PLA seriously for just the last 10 years.... I’d say that isn’t the strategy behind the spending

But yeah... we went to Afghanistan for the minerals and we’re spending on the military to bankrupt our creditors

10-4 Houndawg


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