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Nearly two dozen Chinese military aircraft and ships were detected around Taiwan on Monday morning after the U.S. Navy and Marine Corps held joint exercises in the South China Sea over the weekend.

Taiwan's Defense Ministry said that 18 People's Liberation Army aircraft were detected, 11 of which crossed the median line of the Taiwan Strait, an unofficial buffer zone in between the island and China. Four vessels were also detected around Taiwan..
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ch ... r-AA17pi9E

Nothing to worry about here. I’m sure Brandon has it all under control…
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BDKJMU wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:09 pm
houndawg wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:24 pm

:rofl:

You didn't seem to think this was a big deal during the last administration. I don't think you made a single peep about it in fact.:coffee:
Only after Brandon allowed a Chinese spy ballon to float across the entirety of both Alaska and the lower 48, over a whole week, including hovering over many of our most sensitive military installations, did an ‘unnamed’ official and ‘anonymous sources’ claim it happended during Trump. Umm yeah, ok.. :lol:

If anywhere close to this had happened during Trump, every Trump hating lefty, along with the MSM, would have been labeling Trump a Manchurian candidate, in bed with China, a Xi Jinping stooge, and putting the safety and security of the US at risk.. :coffee:
It did. And you didn't say shit.
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BDKJMU wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:43 pm
Nearly two dozen Chinese military aircraft and ships were detected around Taiwan on Monday morning after the U.S. Navy and Marine Corps held joint exercises in the South China Sea over the weekend.

Taiwan's Defense Ministry said that 18 People's Liberation Army aircraft were detected, 11 of which crossed the median line of the Taiwan Strait, an unofficial buffer zone in between the island and China. Four vessels were also detected around Taiwan..
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ch ... r-AA17pi9E

Nothing to worry about here. I’m sure Brandon has it all under control…
You and SeagullJizz are the only ones whining. :coffee:

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houndawg wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:50 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:09 pm

Only after Brandon allowed a Chinese spy ballon to float across the entirety of both Alaska and the lower 48, over a whole week, including hovering over many of our most sensitive military installations, did an ‘unnamed’ official and ‘anonymous sources’ claim it happended during Trump. Umm yeah, ok.. :lol:

If anywhere close to this had happened during Trump, every Trump hating lefty, along with the MSM, would have been labeling Trump a Manchurian candidate, in bed with China, a Xi Jinping stooge, and putting the safety and security of the US at risk.. :coffee:
It did. And you didn't say shit.
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GannonFan wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:08 am We need to start seeing what we're shooting down. If we're going to be using military force we should be being told exactly what we're hitting and why. Way too much secrecy over what we're doing right now - transparency needs to start happening real soon.
Still way too little information over this. Do we even know what we're doing and what we're shooting down? This is kinda a big deal and we've not been very upfront or expeditious about any of this. Is it China, is it non-governmental stuff, is it extraterrestrial? Now that the Super Bowl is out of the way, it's time for answers. The scary part is we may not even know what we're doing.
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GannonFan wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 8:38 am
GannonFan wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:08 am We need to start seeing what we're shooting down. If we're going to be using military force we should be being told exactly what we're hitting and why. Way too much secrecy over what we're doing right now - transparency needs to start happening real soon.
Still way too little information over this. Do we even know what we're doing and what we're shooting down? This is kinda a big deal and we've not been very upfront or expeditious about any of this. Is it China, is it non-governmental stuff, is it extraterrestrial? Now that the Super Bowl is out of the way, it's time for answers. The scary part is we may not even know what we're doing.
Here you go. Within the first 10 seconds Kirby says they are going to continue to share all information with the public but at this time have none to share. Hasn't shared shit, but gonna keep it up! Attaboy Kirby!!

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SeattleGriz wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:28 am
GannonFan wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 8:38 am

Still way too little information over this. Do we even know what we're doing and what we're shooting down? This is kinda a big deal and we've not been very upfront or expeditious about any of this. Is it China, is it non-governmental stuff, is it extraterrestrial? Now that the Super Bowl is out of the way, it's time for answers. The scary part is we may not even know what we're doing.
Here you go. Within the first 10 seconds Kirby says they are going to continue to share all information with the public but at this time have none to share. Hasn't shared shit, but gonna keep it up! Attaboy Kirby!!

On an issue where we should be out in front of and amazingly clear, we are anything other than that. Maybe it is a lot more complex, maybe we're worried that we've been doing a lot of crap over other airspaces that we shouldn't be doing, maybe we're concerned that there is a real threat to our air space, both military as well as civilian, so we don't want to admit the vulnerability, or maybe these are alien craft and we haven't figured out which sci-fi movie plot we want to follow yet? But we've had 4 instances of using military force over our own country for more than a week now and the most we have to show for it yet is a still photo of some navy guys hauling in a lot of white balloon material into a boat. Is the military even telling the White House what's going on? Who's in charge here? Just when you thought we didn't need another Alexander Haig. :coffee:
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4 star Air Foce general doesn‘t rule out extra terrestrial.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ruling ... 023-02-13/
White House contradicts him, claims not extraterrestrial, but claims they don‘t know who is behind the UFOs..
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BDKJMU wrote:4 star Air Foce general doesn‘t rule out extra terrestrial.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ruling ... 023-02-13/
White House contradicts him, claims not extraterrestrial, but claims they don‘t know who is behind the UFOs..
I haven’t read the articles but why would an alien species capable of interstellar travel use balloons?


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UNI88 wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 6:41 pm
BDKJMU wrote:4 star Air Foce general doesn‘t rule out extra terrestrial.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ruling ... 023-02-13/
White House contradicts him, claims not extraterrestrial, but claims they don‘t know who is behind the UFOs..
I haven’t read the articles but why would an alien species capable of interstellar travel use balloons?


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BDKJMU wrote:4 star Air Foce general doesn‘t rule out extra terrestrial.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ruling ... 023-02-13/
White House contradicts him, claims not extraterrestrial, but claims they don‘t know who is behind the UFOs..
Yeah. This guy is typical of general and flag officers at DoD today. They are all experts at being nuts or DEIA. The last warfighters left during the purge of 2010. Its like 1939 again.. the interval between us learning our lesson gets shorter and shorter

If a real war comes they will have to all be replaced like in 1941 if we aren’t completely overrun before that


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CID1990 wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 8:01 pm
BDKJMU wrote:4 star Air Foce general doesn‘t rule out extra terrestrial.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ruling ... 023-02-13/
White House contradicts him, claims not extraterrestrial, but claims they don‘t know who is behind the UFOs..
Yeah. This guy is typical of general and flag officers at DoD today. They are all experts at being nuts or DEIA. The last warfighters left during the purge of 2010. Its like 1939 again.. the interval between us learning our lesson gets shorter and shorter

If a real war comes they will have to all be replaced like in 1941 if we aren’t completely overrun before that

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Starting to see pushback against Communist Chinese companies, at least in red states.

Last month Gov Youngkin removed Virginia from consideration from a 3.5 billion $$/2.5k jobs battery plant in southern VA near the NC border, to be operated by a Chicom battery company.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/rest ... tery-plant

A week ago:
Chinese company's North Dakota corn mill project struck down by Grand Forks, prompting cheers of 'USA!'
Chinese-owned Fufeng Group paid $2.3 million to purchase North Dakota land
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GannonFan wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 8:38 am
GannonFan wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:08 am We need to start seeing what we're shooting down. If we're going to be using military force we should be being told exactly what we're hitting and why. Way too much secrecy over what we're doing right now - transparency needs to start happening real soon.
Still way too little information over this. Do we even know what we're doing and what we're shooting down? This is kinda a big deal and we've not been very upfront or expeditious about any of this. Is it China, is it non-governmental stuff, is it extraterrestrial? Now that the Super Bowl is out of the way, it's time for answers. The scary part is we may not even know what we're doing.
:rofl:
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Remember the Biden admin claim that they didn’t know about the 1st one until Jan 28 when it entered US airspace off of Alaska? Liar liar pants on fire..
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Now the White is claiming that they have found
-no debris from the 2nd aircraft, despite it being shot down 5 days ago.
-no debris from the 3rd aircraft, despite it being shot down 4 days ago.
-no debris from the 4th aircraft, despite it being shot down 3 days ago.

Saying they’re NOT from China or extraterrestrial, but they don’t know where they’re from. If they don’t know where they’re from, how can they say not from China or extraterrestrial? And does anyone believe they have found no debris?

Lies, lies, lies..The American people aren’t being told the whole story..
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BDKJMU wrote:Now the White is claiming that they have found
-no debris from the 2nd aircraft, despite it being shot down 5 days ago.
-no debris from the 2nd aircraft, despite it being shot down 4 days ago.
-no debris from the 2nd aircraft, despite it being shot down 3 days ago.

Saying they’re NOT from China or extraterrestrial, but they don’t know where they’re from. If they don’t know where they’re from, how can they say not from China or extraterrestrial? And does anyone believe they have found no debris?

Lies, lies, lies..The American people aren’t being told the whole story..
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houndawg wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:01 am
GannonFan wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 8:38 am

Still way too little information over this. Do we even know what we're doing and what we're shooting down? This is kinda a big deal and we've not been very upfront or expeditious about any of this. Is it China, is it non-governmental stuff, is it extraterrestrial? Now that the Super Bowl is out of the way, it's time for answers. The scary part is we may not even know what we're doing.
:rofl:
Yeah, I don't think it's alien-based either, but it would be nice to know exactly what it is we're shooting down in the skies. I think those sidewinder missiles are about $500k a pop, and apparently we missed on the first shot on one of the small "things" and had to shoot a second missile to take it down. You figure we haven't used military force in our own airspace for something like, I don't know, since WWII, and now we break that string of 80 years of no military force in our airspace and in the span of two weeks we shoot off 5 missiles. I really just want to know what we're shooting at - I don't think that's a big ask. :coffee:
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GannonFan wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 11:08 am
houndawg wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:01 am

:rofl:
Yeah, I don't think it's alien-based either, but it would be nice to know exactly what it is we're shooting down in the skies. I think those sidewinder missiles are about $500k a pop, and apparently we missed on the first shot on one of the small "things" and had to shoot a second missile to take it down. You figure we haven't used military force in our own airspace for something like, I don't know, since WWII, and now we break that string of 80 years of no military force in our airspace and in the span of two weeks we shoot off 5 missiles. I really just want to know what we're shooting at - I don't think that's a big ask. :coffee:
I agree - and I'd hate to find out that we're shooting at NOAA weather balloons or some university's research project or something that was released at a funeral....I'm actually a bit surprised that some of our usual wackadoodle deep-staters that see conspiracies everywhere hasn't seen this as a brilliant plan by the Chinese to fuck with us by making us afraid of something we continuously put into our air space for hundreds of different reasons. Cheap and effective ...
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:16 am Now the White is claiming that they have found
-no debris from the 2nd aircraft, despite it being shot down 5 days ago.
-no debris from the 2nd aircraft, despite it being shot down 4 days ago.
-no debris from the 2nd aircraft, despite it being shot down 3 days ago.

Saying they’re NOT from China or extraterrestrial, but they don’t know where they’re from. If they don’t know where they’re from, how can they say not from China or extraterrestrial? And does anyone believe they have found no debris?

Lies, lies, lies..The American people aren’t being told the whole story..
That 2nd aircraft seems to be a tough out. :lol:

Weather is keeping them retrieving the one off the coast of Alaska, when they do get it it will probably be my old unit thats closest, 222nd Aviation Bn at Ft. Wainwright.

When I was stationed there in the 70s there were a lot of balloons released by NOAA as well as rockets they'd shoot to enhance the Aurora. Back before satellites in the early days of the Cold War there were radar stations all across northern Alaska and Canada to spot Russian ICBMs coming over the pole, the Distant Early Warning Line. When satellites replaced them many were repurposed for civilian scientific research.
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GannonFan wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 11:08 am
houndawg wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:01 am

:rofl:
Yeah, I don't think it's alien-based either, but it would be nice to know exactly what it is we're shooting down in the skies. I think those sidewinder missiles are about $500k a pop, and apparently we missed on the first shot on one of the small "things" and had to shoot a second missile to take it down. You figure we haven't used military force in our own airspace for something like, I don't know, since WWII, and now we break that string of 80 years of no military force in our airspace and in the span of two weeks we shoot off 5 missiles. I really just want to know what we're shooting at - I don't think that's a big ask. :coffee:
Agreed. $439k a pop.
https://www.msn.com/en-US/news/world/th ... r-AA17rkGh

For the lower altitude ones not sure why we couldn’t use A10s or C130 gun ships. Putting up a pair of A10s or a single C130 gunship + a burst of 20 MM from a Gatling I would imagine would be a lot cheaper than putting up a pair of F22s or F16s + a $439k sidewinder (Edit: and in the one case 2 sidewinders)..
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:16 am Now the White is claiming that they have found
-no debris from the 2nd aircraft, despite it being shot down 5 days ago.
-no debris from the 2nd aircraft, despite it being shot down 4 days ago.
-no debris from the 2nd aircraft, despite it being shot down 3 days ago.

Saying they’re NOT from China or extraterrestrial, but they don’t know where they’re from. If they don’t know where they’re from, how can they say not from China or extraterrestrial? And does anyone believe they have found no debris?

Lies, lies, lies..The American people aren’t being told the whole story..
Make up your mind, when was the 2nd aircraft shot down?
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 1:30 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:16 am Now the White is claiming that they have found
-no debris from the 2nd aircraft, despite it being shot down 5 days ago.
-no debris from the 3rd aircraft, despite it being shot down 4 days ago.
-no debris from the 4th aircraft, despite it being shot down 3 days ago.

Saying they’re NOT from China or extraterrestrial, but they don’t know where they’re from. If they don’t know where they’re from, how can they say not from China or extraterrestrial? And does anyone believe they have found no debris?

Lies, lies, lies..The American people aren’t being told the whole story..
Make up your mind, when was the 2nd aircraft shot down?
:lol:
I was copying and pasting ahould read 3rd and 4th aircraft as I edited above..
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