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Ibanez wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 5:44 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 12:07 pm

I already have a heavy investment in SPY. But not puts....
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There was a meme stock that tanked on Monday or Tuesday (and it tanked b/c some shady capital firm manipulated the stock). I bought a bunch of calls and so far it's doing well. if it reaches the ATH today or the next trading day, i'll sell.
Was that CEI?
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Re-taking our supply chains sounds like bigoted Trumpism and nationalism. We just need to keep the faith. More free trade and I'm sure China will join a liberal world order.
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Apple is still complying with their totalitarian masters

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/a ... ar-AAPyNqz


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I’m glad this is finally open source. This is one of the things I’m thinking about when I say that China is whipping us in terms of military technology in ways that completely upset the global strategic balance.

This missile is blindingly fast, can go to orbit and loiter there, and then come down at hypersonic speeds onto a target. Our ABM systems, to my knowledge, are not geared for shooting this kind of missile down (they are for shooting down much slower objects on ballistic paths). Also- to my knowledge, we have nothing like this. If I could say how fast it is, nobody would believe me.

This is why I complain about big, wasteful spending but give defense spending a pass (defense spending that is targeted and not wasteful). China needs to understand that they will also be destroyed if they attempt strategic war. Right now I do not believe we can guarantee that. Without it, they can add military force to economic coercion to their box of foreign policy tools which we will not be able to counter. And as our weaker allies knuckle under, we will be isolated and our economy will be wrecked.

The need for that big stick is more necessary now than ever

FT is behind a paywall but HotAir has the main paragraphs here:

https://hotair.com/headlines/2021/10/17 ... le-n422912


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The Chinese are also most likely ahead of us in quantum entanglement tech and probably quantum computing itself (which can be used to break encrypted communications quickly). We can definitely spend a lot less on defense AND have the best military in the world.

But hey, we'll have the Chinese beat on defense contractor profits and their board room diversity, and that's what matters.
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Pwns wrote:The Chinese are also most likely ahead of us in quantum entanglement tech and probably quantum computing itself (which can be used to break encrypted communications quickly). We can definitely spend a lot less on defense AND have the best military in the world.

But hey, we'll have the Chinese beat on defense contractor profits and their board room diversity, and that's what matters.
WAY ahead

Quantum communications too... completely unbreakable secure communications.


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Interesting thread given the recent tech news on the Chicoms.

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SDHornet wrote:Interesting thread given the recent tech news on the Chicoms.

There is something very wrong with that graphic.

It is true when talking about “most” hypersonics but it is waay off in reference to this new Chinese missile. It is in a class all its own.


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Pwns wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:19 am The Chinese are also most likely ahead of us in quantum entanglement tech and probably quantum computing itself (which can be used to break encrypted communications quickly). We can definitely spend a lot less on defense AND have the best military in the world.

But hey, we'll have the Chinese beat on defense contractor profits and their board room diversity, and that's what matters.
This probably a bigger deal than even the hypersonic missiles - if you want to read a fascinating pair of stories about cryptography check out Neal Stephenson's Cryptonomicon. Some of our "lucky breaks" during WW2 weren't luck at all - like we knew right where Yamamoto was going to be and had P-38s waiting on his flight. When the Brits cracked the German Enigma machine they were using a brute force approach and got lucky fairly early while trying the billions of possible permutations. Their biggest problem was how to act on the information without tipping off the Germans that the codes had been broken by suddenly being in the right place all the time.

With respect to China - we either accept the on-going Chinese usurpation of our position as king-of-the-hill or we whittle their population down to a sustainable number and they can return to being a hermit kingdom. One of the points made in the book mentioned above is that a fundamental miscalculation made by the Japanese was their failure to understand that we are grudge-holders on a scale that a people who learn to swallow their pride from infancy simply can't comprehend.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 3:50 pm
Ibanez wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 5:44 am
My man. :clap: :clap:

There was a meme stock that tanked on Monday or Tuesday (and it tanked b/c some shady capital firm manipulated the stock). I bought a bunch of calls and so far it's doing well. if it reaches the ATH today or the next trading day, i'll sell.
Was that CEI?
:lol:

Yup. Bought $1C for $.18....sold around $1.14


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Pwns wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 10:37 am Re-taking our supply chains sounds like bigoted Trumpism and nationalism. We just need to keep the faith. More free trade and I'm sure China will join a liberal world order.
Its more important for the 0.01% to have a reliable supply of wage-slave labor. All this jive and nonsense about a "living wage" and "quality of life" just makes us seem like ingrates that don't understand that we're already living our best life and shouldn't be annoyed by small shit like picking up the healthcare tab for employees of Wal-Mart and McDonalds so their owners can move more billions offshore and out of circulation. Americans need to stop whining and get behind our visionary billionaires.
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Ibanez wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 5:08 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 3:50 pm

Was that CEI?
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Yup. Bought $1C for $.18....sold around $1.14


That's my favorite play....take the inverse of meme stocks.
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houndawg wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 5:11 am
Pwns wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 10:37 am Re-taking our supply chains sounds like bigoted Trumpism and nationalism. We just need to keep the faith. More free trade and I'm sure China will join a liberal world order.
Its more important for the 0.01% to have a reliable supply of wage-slave labor. All this jive and nonsense about a "living wage" and "quality of life" just makes us seem like ingrates that don't understand that we're already living our best life and shouldn't be annoyed by small shit like picking up the healthcare tab for employees of Wal-Mart and McDonalds so their owners can move more billions offshore and out of circulation. Americans need to stop whining and get behind our visionary billionaires.
There's a lot of truth to this.
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Ibanez wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 5:08 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 3:50 pm

Was that CEI?
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Yup. Bought $1C for $.18....sold around $1.14


That's my favorite play....take the inverse of meme stocks.
I bought ACTUAL stock. It hasn’t done well. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
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AZGrizFan wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:21 pm
Ibanez wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 5:08 am
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Yup. Bought $1C for $.18....sold around $1.14


That's my favorite play....take the inverse of meme stocks.
I bought ACTUAL stock. It hasn’t done well. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
You pumped AFTER the dump. What's your avg?

You gotta hit during the pump. :lol: I've been gun shy lately and have missed out on some SPY and MSFT calls.
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:38 am
andy7171 wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 6:52 am
I think that depends on Miley still being "in-charge"
I’m sure General Benedict is calling his Chicom counterpart saying don’t worry about us, we won’t attack….
As a former enlisted troop I hate to get caught out of character praising the officer corps but even a dumb cunt like you should be able to recognize that the General may have saved our Republic's bacon and that it is a good thing that the guys calling the shots for our military are highly educated. Thank all the gods for West Point and Annapolis providing the only adults in the room during those foul years.
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houndawg wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:03 am
BDKJMU wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:38 am
I’m sure General Benedict is calling his Chicom counterpart saying don’t worry about us, we won’t attack….
As a former enlisted troop I hate to get caught out of character praising the officer corps but even a dumb cunt like you should be able to recognize that the General may have saved our Republic's bacon and that it is a good thing that the guys calling the shots for our military are highly educated. Thank all the gods for West Point and Annapolis providing the only adults in the room during those foul years.
Only the left wing retards such as yourself think the woke Gen Dipstick saved us from anything. :dunce: :lol:
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houndawg wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:03 am
BDKJMU wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:38 am
I’m sure General Benedict is calling his Chicom counterpart saying don’t worry about us, we won’t attack….
As a former enlisted troop I hate to get caught out of character praising the officer corps but even a dumb cunt like you should be able to recognize that the General may have saved our Republic's bacon and that it is a good thing that the guys calling the shots for our military are highly educated. Thank all the gods for West Point and Annapolis providing the only adults in the room during those foul years.
Your attitude toward China is similar to Trump's toward Putin.
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houndawg wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:03 am
BDKJMU wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:38 am
I’m sure General Benedict is calling his Chicom counterpart saying don’t worry about us, we won’t attack….
As a former enlisted troop I hate to get caught out of character praising the officer corps but even a dumb cunt like you should be able to recognize that the General may have saved our Republic's bacon and that it is a good thing that the guys calling the shots for our military are highly educated. Thank all the gods for West Point and Annapolis providing the only adults in the room during those foul years.
I bet you spent some time in the brig. :lol: :lol:
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AZGrizFan wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:21 pm
Ibanez wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 5:08 am
:lol:

Yup. Bought $1C for $.18....sold around $1.14


That's my favorite play....take the inverse of meme stocks.
I bought ACTUAL stock. It hasn’t done well. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
A pumper got back in today and it jumped 14%...depending where you, you may be able to get out with less pain.
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UNI88 wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:09 am
houndawg wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:03 am

As a former enlisted troop I hate to get caught out of character praising the officer corps but even a dumb cunt like you should be able to recognize that the General may have saved our Republic's bacon and that it is a good thing that the guys calling the shots for our military are highly educated. Thank all the gods for West Point and Annapolis providing the only adults in the room during those foul years.
Your attitude toward China is similar to Trump's toward Putin.
Even you couldn't be more wrong about that. I see military confrontation with China as inevitable. Trump does dog tricks for Putin in public.
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Ibanez wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:43 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:21 pm

I bought ACTUAL stock. It hasn’t done well. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
A pumper got back in today and it jumped 14%...depending where you, you may be able to get out with less pain.
got back to even. :thumb:

I'll stick around for a while...see if it makes one more jump.
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China shouldn't be too proud of the technological terror they've constructed. The ability to launch a hypersonic missile with a nuclear warhead is insignificant next to the power of having an inclusive and diverse high command.
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houndawg wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 6:02 am
UNI88 wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:09 am
Your attitude toward China is similar to Trump's toward Putin.
Even you couldn't be more wrong about that. I see military confrontation with China as inevitable. Trump does dog tricks for Putin in public.
After you've wiped the Chinese spooge off your chin, tell me how electing the socialist dolts like Bernie that you support will help us avoid or win this inevitable military confrontation?
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AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 7:06 am
Ibanez wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:43 am
A pumper got back in today and it jumped 14%...depending where you, you may be able to get out with less pain.
got back to even. :thumb:

I'll stick around for a while...see if it makes one more jump.
I might be losing some green on it this week. Decided to buy some calls and was almost there until I don't know what happened. Still 2 days left but the Greeks are eating up any profit...
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