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Re: Here we go again (Brunswick, Georgia)

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Pwns wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 12:15 pm
I'm pretty sure lynching would require premeditated murder. Unless the plan all along was to try and let Arbery grab the younger McMichael's gun and have the elder McMichael try to shoot him without hitting his son it looks like just plain second-degree murder.
Like I posted above, GA doesn't have '2nd degree murder'..

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Chizzang wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 12:05 pm
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Fri May 15, 2020 11:44 am
Reading back on the Zimmerman trial the options the jury had were 2nd degree murder and manslaughter. Apparently FL is one of 3 states with "3rd degree murder" that he wasn't charged with (other states PA and Minnesota). I live in PA & didn't even know that it had 3rd degree murder..

Neighboring GA is apparently different- has no 1st, 2nd, 2nd, or 3rd degree murder, just Felony Murder.
https://statelaws.findlaw.com/georgia-l ... -laws.html
manslaughter
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and involuntary manslaughter..
I repeat: Manslaughter

book it
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South Georgia?

Bottle of bourbon says Involuntary manslaughter.


The dude rushed them, they didn't have any choice. Hope I'm wrong.
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Re: Here we go again (Brunswick, Georgia)

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clenz wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 8:43 am
CID1990 wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 8:41 am

Clench

Nobody here is disagreeing with you, so far as I can ascertain

These guys are guilty of murder 2 based on what I can see, and any jury not co-opted in 1949 will agree


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Re: Here we go again (Brunswick, Georgia)

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The four minute chase could impact things.
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Why that police department, the DA and those 3 rednecks are still alive shows you how far this country has fallen.

We used to beat shoot and burn shitbags like this........... Oh I mean "lynch" them. RMFE

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Re: Here we go again (Brunswick, Georgia)

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Mon May 18, 2020 1:45 pm
Why that police department, the DA and those 3 rednecks are still alive shows you how far this country has fallen.

We used to beat shoot and burn shitbags like this........... Oh I mean "lynch" them. RMFE
What "country" are you talking about exactly..?
The one where 55 years ago black people legally couldn't use the same bathroom and had to sit at the back of the bus..?

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Re: Here we go again (Brunswick, Georgia)

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89Hen wrote:The four minute chase could impact things.
Hell I’m not a lawyer and I could shoot that down in court

It’s immaterial to the use of force. Especially since these guys weren’t police


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Chizzang wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 2:52 pm
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 1:45 pm
Why that police department, the DA and those 3 rednecks are still alive shows you how far this country has fallen.

We used to beat shoot and burn shitbags like this........... Oh I mean "lynch" them. RMFE
What "country" are you talking about exactly..?
The one where 55 years ago black people legally couldn't use the same bathroom and had to sit at the back of the bus..?

:shock:

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CID1990 wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 4:52 pm
89Hen wrote:The four minute chase could impact things.
Hell I’m not a lawyer and I could shoot that down in court

It’s immaterial to the use of force. Especially since these guys weren’t police
Actually I think the fact there weren't police makes it worse. Wouldn't be out of the ordinary for police to follow for 4+ minutes. Rednecks with weapons in a pick up following a guy on foot... sounds premeditated to me.
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Chizzang wrote:
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 1:45 pm
Why that police department, the DA and those 3 rednecks are still alive shows you how far this country has fallen.

We used to beat shoot and burn shitbags like this........... Oh I mean "lynch" them. RMFE
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The one where 55 years ago black people legally couldn't use the same bathroom and had to sit at the back of the bus..?

:shock:

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89Hen wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 6:22 am
CID1990 wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 4:52 pm

Hell I’m not a lawyer and I could shoot that down in court

It’s immaterial to the use of force. Especially since these guys weren’t police
Actually I think the fact there weren't police makes it worse. Wouldn't be out of the ordinary for police to follow for 4+ minutes. Rednecks with weapons in a pick up following a guy on foot... sounds premeditated to me.

meh, its south Georgia
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89Hen wrote:
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Hell I’m not a lawyer and I could shoot that down in court

It’s immaterial to the use of force. Especially since these guys weren’t police
Actually I think the fact there weren't police makes it worse. Wouldn't be out of the ordinary for police to follow for 4+ minutes. Rednecks with weapons in a pick up following a guy on foot... sounds premeditated to me.
I thought you were suggesting something in the other direction

I agree that every new bit of info that comes out about this makes it look worse


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CID1990 wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 9:40 am
89Hen wrote:
Actually I think the fact there weren't police makes it worse. Wouldn't be out of the ordinary for police to follow for 4+ minutes. Rednecks with weapons in a pick up following a guy on foot... sounds premeditated to me.
I thought you were suggesting something in the other direction

I agree that every new bit of info that comes out about this makes it look wors
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Re: Here we go again (Brunswick, Georgia)

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CID1990 wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 9:40 am
89Hen wrote:
Actually I think the fact there weren't police makes it worse. Wouldn't be out of the ordinary for police to follow for 4+ minutes. Rednecks with weapons in a pick up following a guy on foot... sounds premeditated to me.
I thought you were suggesting something in the other direction

I agree that every new bit of info that comes out about this makes it look worse
presumably this goes to trial by jury...
which just for fun lets guess how many black folks are in the jury - my 1st guess is ZERO
at that point the prosecution has to settle on manslaughter (period) because no way 12 white folks in Georgie hang bubba

so I repeat
regardless of how this "looks"
its a manslaughter case

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Re: Here we go again (Brunswick, Georgia)

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Chizzang wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 10:17 am
CID1990 wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 9:40 am

I thought you were suggesting something in the other direction

I agree that every new bit of info that comes out about this makes it look worse
presumably this goes to trial by jury...
which just for fun lets guess how many black folks are in the jury - my 1st guess is ZERO
at that point the prosecution has to settle on manslaughter (period) because no way 12 white folks in Georgie hang bubba

so I repeat
regardless of how this "looks"
its a manslaughter case

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With a 26% or so black population
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and with as high profile and as racially charged as this is, no way do they allow this to be an all white jury. I am willing to bet they'll be at least 1 black. My guess is they'll be 2-3.

Newsflash- they can charge with more than manslaughter, and yet it not be a capital murder case. Of course they aren't going to 'hang' bubba. One, GA doesn't do death penalty by hanging anymore. Second, there's close to zero chance this is going to be a death penalty case.

Whether or not they are charged with murder (again no degrees in GA), yes, at least the son (shooter), will probably be found guilty of manslaughter.

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Chizzang wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 10:17 am
CID1990 wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 9:40 am

I thought you were suggesting something in the other direction

I agree that every new bit of info that comes out about this makes it look worse
presumably this goes to trial by jury...
which just for fun lets guess how many black folks are in the jury - my 1st guess is ZERO
at that point the prosecution has to settle on manslaughter (period) because no way 12 white folks in Georgie hang bubba

so I repeat
regardless of how this "looks"
its a manslaughter case

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Involuntary. That black man attacked him and he stood his ground
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houndawg wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 7:44 am
Chizzang wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 10:17 am


presumably this goes to trial by jury...
which just for fun lets guess how many black folks are in the jury - my 1st guess is ZERO
at that point the prosecution has to settle on manslaughter (period) because no way 12 white folks in Georgie hang bubba

so I repeat
regardless of how this "looks"
its a manslaughter case

:nod:
Involuntary. That black man attacked him and he stood his ground
Agreed. I think the guy and his son are the true victims.
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89Hen wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 7:51 am
houndawg wrote:
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Involuntary. That black man attacked him and he stood his ground
Agreed. I think the guy and his son are the true victims.
pretty bad when you can't even execute a negro in south Georgia anymore without lawyers getting involved.. :ohno:
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houndawg wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 8:02 am
89Hen wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 7:51 am

Agreed. I think the guy and his son are the true victims.
pretty bad when you can't even execute a negro in south Georgia anymore without lawyers getting involved.. :ohno:
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89Hen wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 8:03 am
houndawg wrote:
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pretty bad when you can't even execute a negro in south Georgia anymore without lawyers getting involved.. :ohno:
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houndawg wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 8:15 am
89Hen wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 8:03 am


Yeah, I don't know what's happened to this country.
Its the end of the empire... just like the Soviet Union, one monday morning we'll awaken to a whole different world
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89Hen wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 8:20 am
houndawg wrote:
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Its the end of the empire... just like the Soviet Union, one monday morning we'll awaken to a whole different world
As long as they don't take down my gated community.
I'm going to need some labor if you know any white folk that that are worth hiring.
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Wed May 20, 2020 8:22 am
89Hen wrote:
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As long as they don't take down my gated community.
I'm going to need some labor if you know any white folk that that are worth hiring.
I know a couple Filipino's you can have for free.
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89Hen wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 8:20 am
houndawg wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 8:15 am


Its the end of the empire... just like the Soviet Union, one monday morning we'll awaken to a whole different world
As long as they don't take down my gated community.
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89Hen wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 8:23 am
houndawg wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 8:22 am


I'm going to need some labor if you know any white folk that that are worth hiring.
I know a couple Filipino's you can have for free.
Gotta be females - all the hottest hapas are half Filipina
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