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Re: Here we go again (Brunswick, Georgia)

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Fucker

I just spent the last 30 minutes trying to line up the police report through a buddy still on the job. It was 2003.

I was going to avatar bet your ass and it was going to be a doozy

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Re: Here we go again (Brunswick, Georgia)

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Gil Dobie wrote:
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The victim was inside another house under construction just before this chase and shooting occured. Not that it justifies a killing, but certainly runs opposite to him being innocently jogging.
I see no evidence that he wasn't out for a jog or a run. He stopped and looked at a house under construction, nothing stolen, nothing broken. I've done that many times and have never been chased down or shot. If I'm running and hiding from someone, I'm in the woods.
:suspicious: He tripped an alarm inside a house under construction. Have you ever entered a random house under construction and tripped an alarm while ‘out on a jog’? I know I haven’t..

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BDKJMU wrote:
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I see no evidence that he wasn't out for a jog or a run. He stopped and looked at a house under construction, nothing stolen, nothing broken. I've done that many times and have never been chased down or shot. If I'm running and hiding from someone, I'm in the woods.
:suspicious: He tripped an alarm inside a house under construction. Have you ever entered a random house under construction and tripped an alarm while ‘out on a jog’? I know I haven’t..
I'm not seeing the part about tripping an alarm at the house under construction. I see where a security camera taped him and he was there for approx 5 minutes and didn't do anything against the law.
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Gil Dobie wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 3:51 pm
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:suspicious: He tripped an alarm inside a house under construction. Have you ever entered a random house under construction and tripped an alarm while ‘out on a jog’? I know I haven’t..
I'm not seeing the part about tripping an alarm at the house under construction. I see where a security camera taped him and he was there for approx 5 minutes and didn't do anything against the law.
Wouldn't he technically have been trespassing at that point then?
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This thread is so laughable......we always seem to get one annual CS.com thread where a racist murder is so apparent that 95% of you pile on to denounce the murder and wash your consciences for another year. :roll:

On to 2021! :lol:

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Re: Here we go again (Brunswick, Georgia)

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Winterborn wrote:
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Gil Dobie wrote:
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I'm not seeing the part about tripping an alarm at the house under construction. I see where a security camera taped him and he was there for approx 5 minutes and didn't do anything against the law.
Wouldn't he technically have been trespassing at that point then?
Here is the Georgia Law, not sure on the specific county or township.

(a) A person commits the offense of criminal trespass when he or she intentionally damages any property of another without consent of that other person and the damage thereto is $500.00 or less or knowingly and maliciously interferes with the possession or use of the property of another person without consent of that person.

(b) A person commits the offense of criminal trespass when he or she knowingly and without authority:

(1) Enters upon the land or premises of another person or into any part of any vehicle, railroad car, aircraft, or watercraft of another person for an unlawful purpose;

(2) Enters upon the land or premises of another person or into any part of any vehicle, railroad car, aircraft, or watercraft of another person after receiving, prior to such entry, notice from the owner, rightful occupant, or, upon proper identification, an authorized representative of the owner or rightful occupant that such entry is forbidden; or

(3) Remains upon the land or premises of another person or within the vehicle, railroad car, aircraft, or watercraft of another person after receiving notice from the owner, rightful occupant, or, upon proper identification, an authorized representative of the owner or rightful occupant to depart.

(c) For the purposes of subsection (b) of this Code section, permission to enter or invitation to enter given by a minor who is or is not present on or in the property of the minor's parent or guardian is not sufficient to allow lawful entry of another person upon the land, premises, vehicle, railroad car, aircraft, or watercraft owned or rightfully occupied by such minor's parent or guardian if such parent or guardian has previously given notice that such entry is forbidden or notice to depart.

(d) A person who commits the offense of criminal trespass shall be guilty of a misdemeanor.

(e) A person commits the offense of criminal trespass when he or she intentionally defaces, mutilates, or defiles any grave marker, monument, or memorial to one or more deceased persons who served in the military service of this state, the United States of America or any of the states thereof, or the Confederate States of America or any of the states thereof, or a monument, plaque, marker, or memorial which is dedicated to, honors, or recounts the military service of any past or present military personnel of this state, the United States of America or any of the states thereof, or the Confederate States of America or any of the states thereof if such grave marker, monument, memorial, plaque, or marker is privately owned or located on land which is privately owned.
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And what do you do that makes you better than that 95%?
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Gil Dobie wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 4:03 pm
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Wouldn't he technically have been trespassing at that point then?
Here is the Georgia Law, not sure on the specific county or township.

(a) A person commits the offense of criminal trespass when he or she intentionally damages any property of another without consent of that other person and the damage thereto is $500.00 or less or knowingly and maliciously interferes with the possession or use of the property of another person without consent of that person.

(b) A person commits the offense of criminal trespass when he or she knowingly and without authority:

(1) Enters upon the land or premises of another person or into any part of any vehicle, railroad car, aircraft, or watercraft of another person for an unlawful purpose;
I guess it would depend. I can see several avenues of defense by the defendant for using Trespassing. Assuming they actually own the land/house that the incident occurred on.

Does that justify (or any other defense) the amount of force used is big question.
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Re: Here we go again (Brunswick, Georgia)

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Gil Dobie wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 3:51 pm
BDKJMU wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 3:43 pm
:suspicious: He tripped an alarm inside a house under construction. Have you ever entered a random house under construction and tripped an alarm while ‘out on a jog’? I know I haven’t..
I'm not seeing the part about tripping an alarm at the house under construction. I see where a security camera taped him and he was there for approx 5 minutes and didn't do anything against the law.
If you enter someone else’s house (whether its open because its under construction or not), at a minimim that’s tresspassing. Again, if you’re out on a jog, you’re not entering someone else’s house..

Edit: I see Winterborn already beat me too it.

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BDKJMU wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 4:23 pm
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Mon May 11, 2020 3:51 pm


I'm not seeing the part about tripping an alarm at the house under construction. I see where a security camera taped him and he was there for approx 5 minutes and didn't do anything against the law.
If you enter someone else’s house (whether its open because its under construction or not), at a minimim that’s tresspassing. Again, if you’re out on a jog, you’re not entering someone else’s house..

Edit: I see Winterborn already beat me too it.
There is an argument either way with how the statue is written (at least with how I am reading it). It depends on what they can prove/imply what the "intent" of the deceased was.
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Gil Dobie wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 3:51 pm
I'm not seeing the part about tripping an alarm at the house under construction. I see where a security camera taped him and he was there for approx 5 minutes and didn't do anything against the law.
Wouldn't he technically have been trespassing at that point then?
Not if the property wasn’t marked “no trespassing”.

GA’s law is similar to SC’s. Trespassing requires notice, unless the perpetrator also commits vandalism, theft, or some other crime while on the premises.

Check the law you posted.. it has “after notice” in there in the second or third element.
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Gil Dobie wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 3:51 pm
I'm not seeing the part about tripping an alarm at the house under construction. I see where a security camera taped him and he was there for approx 5 minutes and didn't do anything against the law.
If you enter someone else’s house (whether its open because its under construction or not), at a minimim that’s tresspassing. Again, if you’re out on a jog, you’re not entering someone else’s house..

Edit: I see Winterborn already beat me too it.
Read the law he posted.

If there was a sign on the property then yeah. But I don’t know if that’s established.
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CID1990 wrote:
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Wouldn't he technically have been trespassing at that point then?
Not if the property wasn’t marked “no trespassing”.

GA’s law is similar to SC’s. Trespassing requires notice, unless the perpetrator also commits vandalism, theft, or some other crime while on the premises.

Check the law you posted.. it has “after notice” in there in the second or third element.
Yup, I caught that re-reading the referenced section. There are two paths to prove trespassing (which you mentioned); one/both/neither could be valid depending on the facts of the case. Based on what has been posted, it is probably neither but the whole story isn't known yet and that is just me speculating.
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CID1990 wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 7:14 pm
BDKJMU wrote: If you enter someone else’s house (whether its open because its under construction or not), at a minimim that’s tresspassing. Again, if you’re out on a jog, you’re not entering someone else’s house..

Edit: I see Winterborn already beat me too it.
Read the law he posted.

If there was a sign on the property then yeah. But I don’t know if that’s established.
So hypothetically speaking, in GA, SC, (and some other states I presume), if you didn’t have a no tresspass sign in your yard, someone could walk into your unlocked house, irregardless of how long they spent there, and as long as they didn’t steal or intentionally break or damage anything, there’s no tresspass?

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BDKJMU wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 8:43 pm
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Read the law he posted.

If there was a sign on the property then yeah. But I don’t know if that’s established.
So hypothetically speaking, in GA, SC, (and some other states I presume), if you didn’t have a no tresspass sign in your yard, someone could walk into your unlocked house, irregardless of how long they spent there, and as long as they didn’t steal or intentionally break or damage anything, there’s no tresspass?
Have to have a lawyer weigh in on that one. It use to be commonplace for people open a door and take a couple steps in and ask if anyone was home. My parents home and other homes, you had to walk into the garage to get to the main door. Most people lock their doors now.
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BDKJMU wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 8:43 pm
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Read the law he posted.

If there was a sign on the property then yeah. But I don’t know if that’s established.
So hypothetically speaking, in GA, SC, (and some other states I presume), if you didn’t have a no tresspass sign in your yard, someone could walk into your unlocked house, irregardless of how long they spent there, and as long as they didn’t steal or intentionally break or damage anything, there’s no tresspass?

Think how many 7th day Adventists would get shot in Georgia if walking on to a property was illegal

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out here we've got Mormons gallivanting around our property all the fucking time... I'd love to start shooting at them
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BDKJMU wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 8:43 pm
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Read the law he posted.

If there was a sign on the property then yeah. But I don’t know if that’s established.
So hypothetically speaking, in GA, SC, (and some other states I presume), if you didn’t have a no tresspass sign in your yard, someone could walk into your unlocked house, irregardless of how long they spent there, and as long as they didn’t steal or intentionally break or damage anything, there’s no tresspass?
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Chizzang wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 8:43 pm
So hypothetically speaking, in GA, SC, (and some other states I presume), if you didn’t have a no tresspass sign in your yard, someone could walk into your unlocked house, irregardless of how long they spent there, and as long as they didn’t steal or intentionally break or damage anything, there’s no tresspass?

Think how many 7th day Adventists would get shot in Georgia if walking on to a property was illegal

:shock:

out here we've got Mormons gallivanting around our property all the fucking time... I'd love to start shooting at them
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Just happened to be following a truck carrying three armed men as they rolled up on a burglar running down the street. Even manuvered the car to try and keep the kid in sight when the kid tried to avoid what he probably saw as a rapidly deteriorating situation
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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Show me one example of a cop arresting another cop on the spot. When a power tripping tactical Timmy violates a citizen and right then and there the good cop arrests the other one.

I'll wait.

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Winterborn wrote:
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Think how many 7th day Adventists would get shot in Georgia if walking on to a property was illegal

:shock:

out here we've got Mormons gallivanting around our property all the fucking time... I'd love to start shooting at them
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