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Re: Joe Biden gaffe and verbal bungles watch

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 7:12 am
by 89Hen
kalm wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 6:21 am But do you think he’s wrong or being dishonest?
Yes, you racist.

Re: Joe Biden gaffe and verbal bungles watch

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 7:15 am
by Ibanez
Ivytalk wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 6:27 am
kalm wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 6:21 am

But do you think he’s wrong or being dishonest?
Both. Joe is playing to the “plantation mentality” approach that the Democrats take to blacks and other minorities.
If he keeps this crap up he'll need Stacy Abrams..... :thumbdown: :thumbdown:

Re: Joe Biden gaffe and verbal bungles watch

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 7:28 am
by kalm
Pwns wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 7:03 am
kalm wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 6:21 am

But do you think he’s wrong or being dishonest?


Just an observation here: Conservatives (and your left-leaners who are not Social Justice Warriors) generally see not being racist as not judging individuals as being part of monoliths.

Liberals (specifically the woke type) think anti-racism means retweeting as many "journalists of color" as possible and getting a selfie with the black restaurant owner that makes the great kale soup. They think people delude themselves into being racist because they have a black friend when in fact (IMO) they're the ones that have deluded themselves into think they're making things right and have some paternalistic contempt for minorities. And it's that contempt that apparently slipped by Biden's verbal filter, here. :nod:
So you think Trump’s policies and leadership serve blacks better?

Re: Joe Biden gaffe and verbal bungles watch

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 7:30 am
by Ibanez
kalm wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 6:21 am
Pwns wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 5:58 am :lol: :lol: :lol:



Good thing for Joe Democrats get free passes on statements like this.
But do you think he’s wrong or being dishonest?
He is wrong. A person's "blackness" or "whiteness" isn't and shouldn't be defined by political affiliation. It's almost like a purity test. :thumbdown: :twocents:

Re: Joe Biden gaffe and verbal bungles watch

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 7:41 am
by HI54UNI
kalm wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 7:28 am
Pwns wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 7:03 am



Just an observation here: Conservatives (and your left-leaners who are not Social Justice Warriors) generally see not being racist as not judging individuals as being part of monoliths.

Liberals (specifically the woke type) think anti-racism means retweeting as many "journalists of color" as possible and getting a selfie with the black restaurant owner that makes the great kale soup. They think people delude themselves into being racist because they have a black friend when in fact (IMO) they're the ones that have deluded themselves into think they're making things right and have some paternalistic contempt for minorities. And it's that contempt that apparently slipped by Biden's verbal filter, here. :nod:
So you think Trump’s policies and leadership serve blacks better?
Prior to Covid black unemployment and poverty rates were at record lows. More funding for HBCUs. Criminal justice reform with 90% of those benefiting from reduced sentences being black. He's also for school choice which is good for minority families so their kids aren't stuck in inner city schools.

:coffee:

Re: Joe Biden gaffe and verbal bungles watch

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 7:42 am
by kalm
Ibanez wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 7:30 am
kalm wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 6:21 am

But do you think he’s wrong or being dishonest?
He is wrong. A person's "blackness" or "whiteness" isn't and shouldn't be defined by political affiliation. It's almost like a purity test. :thumbdown: :twocents:
Don’t disagree on that principle but that’s not the point. The point is Biden thinks he’s a better leader for blacks which I think he can make a strong point for. Saying so doesn’t necessarily equate to racial division.

Re: Joe Biden gaffe and verbal bungles watch

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 7:51 am
by ALPHAGRIZ1
kalm wrote:
Pwns wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 7:03 am

Just an observation here: Conservatives (and your left-leaners who are not Social Justice Warriors) generally see not being racist as not judging individuals as being part of monoliths.

Liberals (specifically the woke type) think anti-racism means retweeting as many "journalists of color" as possible and getting a selfie with the black restaurant owner that makes the great kale soup. They think people delude themselves into being racist because they have a black friend when in fact (IMO) they're the ones that have deluded themselves into think they're making things right and have some paternalistic contempt for minorities. And it's that contempt that apparently slipped by Biden's verbal filter, here. :nod:
So you think Trump’s policies and leadership serve blacks better?
Trumps policies serve EVERY American better

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Re: Joe Biden gaffe and verbal bungles watch

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 8:00 am
by Pwns
kalm wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 7:42 am
Ibanez wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 7:30 am
He is wrong. A person's "blackness" or "whiteness" isn't and shouldn't be defined by political affiliation. It's almost like a purity test. :thumbdown: :twocents:
Don’t disagree on that principle but that’s not the point. The point is Biden thinks he’s a better leader for blacks which I think he can make a strong point for. Saying so doesn’t necessarily equate to racial division.
Except "I'm a better choice for blacks" isn't what he said.

Re: Joe Biden gaffe and verbal bungles watch

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 8:19 am
by Baldy
kalm wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 7:42 am
Ibanez wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 7:30 am
He is wrong. A person's "blackness" or "whiteness" isn't and shouldn't be defined by political affiliation. It's almost like a purity test. :thumbdown: :twocents:
Don’t disagree on that principle but that’s not the point. The point is Biden thinks he’s a better leader for blacks which I think he can make a strong point for. Saying so doesn’t necessarily equate to racial division.
That's not what he said, not even close.

What he literally said was if you're black and vote for Trump, you're not really black.

I can only imagine the vapor lock in the WH press room if Trump said anything like that. :lol:

Joe Biden gaffe and verbal bungles watch

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 8:29 am
by CID1990
kalm wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 7:30 am
He is wrong. A person's "blackness" or "whiteness" isn't and shouldn't be defined by political affiliation. It's almost like a purity test. :thumbdown: :twocents:
Don’t disagree on that principle but that’s not the point. The point is Biden thinks he’s a better leader for blacks which I think he can make a strong point for. Saying so doesn’t necessarily equate to racial division.
^^^^ Here you go, folks

This is exactly what Trumpsters do for Trump

Parse out really stupid tripe that comes out of his mouth and tell us what he really meant

And here’s the equivalent anti-Trumpy response in photonegative:

Y’all house negroes better keep your black asses on the plantation


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Re: Joe Biden gaffe and verbal bungles watch

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 9:15 am
by kalm
CID1990 wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 8:29 am
kalm wrote:
Don’t disagree on that principle but that’s not the point. The point is Biden thinks he’s a better leader for blacks which I think he can make a strong point for. Saying so doesn’t necessarily equate to racial division.
^^^^ Here you go, folks

This is exactly what Trumpsters do for Trump

Parse out really stupid tripe that comes out of his mouth and tell us what he really meant

And here’s the equivalent anti-Trumpy response in photonegative:

Y’all house negroes better keep your black asses on the plantation


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Except I’m not a Bidenster and Trump doesn’t even pretend to be complimentary but yeah....both sides do it. I’ll stand corrected on what he actually said but good god this is all getting tedious.

Re: Joe Biden gaffe and verbal bungles watch

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 9:18 am
by Ivytalk
kalm wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 9:15 am
CID1990 wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 8:29 am
^^^^ Here you go, folks

This is exactly what Trumpsters do for Trump

Parse out really stupid tripe that comes out of his mouth and tell us what he really meant

And here’s the equivalent anti-Trumpy response in photonegative:

Y’all house negroes better keep your black asses on the plantation


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Except I’m not a Bidenster and Trump doesn’t even pretend to be complimentary but yeah....both sides do it. I’ll stand corrected on what he actually said but good god this is all getting tedious.
You’re the one who dragged it out

Re: Joe Biden gaffe and verbal bungles watch

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 9:27 am
by kalm
Ivytalk wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 9:18 am
kalm wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 9:15 am

Except I’m not a Bidenster and Trump doesn’t even pretend to be complimentary but yeah....both sides do it. I’ll stand corrected on what he actually said but good god this is all getting tedious.
You’re the one who dragged it out
Sorry.

Re: Joe Biden gaffe and verbal bungles watch

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 9:28 am
by 89Hen
kalm wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 9:15 am
CID1990 wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 8:29 am
^^^^ Here you go, folks

This is exactly what Trumpsters do for Trump

Parse out really stupid tripe that comes out of his mouth and tell us what he really meant

And here’s the equivalent anti-Trumpy response in photonegative:

Y’all house negroes better keep your black asses on the plantation


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Except I’m not a Bidenster and Trump doesn’t even pretend to be complimentary but yeah....both sides do it. I’ll stand corrected on what he actually said but good god this is all getting tedious.
Racism can get tedious when you defend it.

Re: Joe Biden gaffe and verbal bungles watch

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 9:36 am
by CID1990
kalm wrote:
CID1990 wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 8:29 am ^^^^ Here you go, folks

This is exactly what Trumpsters do for Trump

Parse out really stupid tripe that comes out of his mouth and tell us what he really meant

And here’s the equivalent anti-Trumpy response in photonegative:

Y’all house negroes better keep your black asses on the plantation


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Except I’m not a Bidenster and Trump doesn’t even pretend to be complimentary but yeah....both sides do it. I’ll stand corrected on what he actually said but good god this is all getting tedious.
And yet here you are

Explaining what he meant


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Re: Joe Biden gaffe and verbal bungles watch

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 10:06 am
by kalm
CID1990 wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 9:36 am
kalm wrote:
Except I’m not a Bidenster and Trump doesn’t even pretend to be complimentary but yeah....both sides do it. I’ll stand corrected on what he actually said but good god this is all getting tedious.
And yet here you are

Explaining what he meant


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But unlike you (and Mrs. kalm) I can admit when I’m wrong.

Re: Joe Biden gaffe and verbal bungles watch

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 10:28 am
by Ivytalk
kalm wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 10:06 am
CID1990 wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 9:36 am
And yet here you are

Explaining what he meant


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But unlike you (and Mrs. kalm) I can admit when I’m wrong.
*89hen

Re: Joe Biden gaffe and verbal bungles watch

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 10:42 am
by Chizzang
Baldy wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 8:19 am
kalm wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 7:42 am

Don’t disagree on that principle but that’s not the point. The point is Biden thinks he’s a better leader for blacks which I think he can make a strong point for. Saying so doesn’t necessarily equate to racial division.
That's not what he said, not even close.

What he literally said was if you're black and vote for Trump, you're not really black.

I can only imagine the vapor lock in the WH press room if Trump said anything like that. :lol:
I love how badly says "Thats not what he said"
and then goes on to also quote something he did NOT say - and use the word "literally" while making a figurative statement

:rofl:

Re: Joe Biden gaffe and verbal bungles watch

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 11:08 am
by kalm
Ivytalk wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 10:28 am
kalm wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 10:06 am

But unlike you (and Mrs. kalm) I can admit when I’m wrong.
*89hen
Accuracy. It’s like having three scolding wives.

Re: Joe Biden gaffe and verbal bungles watch

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 11:09 am
by Baldy
Chizzang wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 10:42 am
Baldy wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 8:19 am
That's not what he said, not even close.

What he literally said was if you're black and vote for Trump, you're not really black.

I can only imagine the vapor lock in the WH press room if Trump said anything like that. :lol:
I love how badly says "Thats not what he said"
and then goes on to also quote something he did NOT say - and use the word "literally" while making a figurative statement

:rofl:
Poor Clitz. :ohno:

1. I did not quote anything or anyone (See emphasis above).
2. You don't know what the definition of literally is (it has many meanings).
Merriam Webster wrote: Definition of literally
1 : in a literal sense or manner: such as
a: in a way that uses the ordinary or primary meaning of a term or expression
He took the remark literally.
a word that can be used both literally and figuratively
b: used to emphasize the truth and accuracy of a statement or description.
The party was attended by literally hundreds of people.

c: with exact equivalence : with the meaning of each individual word given exactly
The term "Mardi Gras" literally means "Fat Tuesday" in French.
d: in a completely accurate way a story that is basically true even if not literally true
In describing Joe Biden's racist remark, I used "literally" in the context of definition 1b (above).

:lol:

Re: Joe Biden gaffe and verbal bungles watch

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 11:11 am
by kalm
Baldy wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 11:09 am
Chizzang wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 10:42 am

I love how badly says "Thats not what he said"
and then goes on to also quote something he did NOT say - and use the word "literally" while making a figurative statement

:rofl:
Poor Clitz. :ohno:

1. I did not quote anything or anyone (See emphasis above).
2. You don't know what the definition of literally is (it has many meanings).
Merriam Webster wrote: Definition of literally
1 : in a literal sense or manner: such as
a: in a way that uses the ordinary or primary meaning of a term or expression
He took the remark literally.
a word that can be used both literally and figuratively
b: used to emphasize the truth and accuracy of a statement or description.
The party was attended by literally hundreds of people.

c: with exact equivalence : with the meaning of each individual word given exactly
The term "Mardi Gras" literally means "Fat Tuesday" in French.
d: in a completely accurate way a story that is basically true even if not literally true
In describing Joe Biden's racist remark, I used "literally" in the context of definition 1b (above).

:lol:
Make that 4 scolding wives.

Re: Joe Biden gaffe and verbal bungles watch

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 11:18 am
by UNI88
Ivytalk wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 10:28 am
kalm wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 10:06 am
But unlike you (and Mrs. kalm) I can admit when I’m wrong.
*89hen
:rofl:

Re: Joe Biden gaffe and verbal bungles watch

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 9:35 pm
by SDHornet
kalm wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 7:28 am
Pwns wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 7:03 am



Just an observation here: Conservatives (and your left-leaners who are not Social Justice Warriors) generally see not being racist as not judging individuals as being part of monoliths.

Liberals (specifically the woke type) think anti-racism means retweeting as many "journalists of color" as possible and getting a selfie with the black restaurant owner that makes the great kale soup. They think people delude themselves into being racist because they have a black friend when in fact (IMO) they're the ones that have deluded themselves into think they're making things right and have some paternalistic contempt for minorities. And it's that contempt that apparently slipped by Biden's verbal filter, here. :nod:
So you think Trump’s policies and leadership serve blacks better?
His economy does. :coffee:

Re: Joe Biden gaffe and verbal bungles watch

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 9:37 pm
by SDHornet
Pwns wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 5:58 am :lol: :lol: :lol:



Good thing for Joe Democrats get free passes on statements like this.
So much for the "Joe has the black vote locked up". Nothing better than a 77 year old white man telling blacks that they aren't black enough if they don't vote for him. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Re: Joe Biden gaffe and verbal bungles watch

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 9:46 pm
by JohnStOnge
SDHornet wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 9:37 pm
Pwns wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 5:58 am :lol: :lol: :lol:



Good thing for Joe Democrats get free passes on statements like this.
So much for the "Joe has the black vote locked up". Nothing better than a 77 year old white man telling blacks that they aren't black enough if they don't vote for him. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
It was a gaffe, no doubt, But he's got the Black vote locked up. The only questions involve whether it'll be a little above 90% or a little below 90% and whether Blacks will have high turnout relative to historical turnout.

I think he needs to pick Stacey Abrams as his Vice Presidential candidate. If he does that he'll get above 90% of the Black vote and Blacks will turn out. She'll also absolutely pound Mike Pence in the Vice Presidential debate. But that's just a bonus.