If you were on this board claiming for the past 10 months that the politicians were only looking after our best interests and that shutting down and locking down were legit alternatives to "stopping the spread" (despite MOUNDS of evidence to the contrary), you should just go ahead and ban yourself.
It's now been made PAINFULLY obvious the shutdowns were ONLY a political tool to oust Trump from office (as anyone with a brainstem has said all along). The three biggest mouthpieces for locking down (Newsom, Cuomo and the Chicago Mayor) have ALL done complete 180's on lockdowns now that Trump has been defeated...but not before completely destroying their states' economies, and then awaiting the promised bailout from the Feds once Biden got elected.
If you weren't smart enough to see through that bullshit you should stay out of the deep end of these conversations--forever.
Re: Coronavirus COVID-19
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:39 pm
by SeattleGriz
BDKJMU wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:24 am
Hey SD, good to see Newsome says you can your house now.
AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:28 pm
If you were on this board claiming for the past 10 months that the politicians were only looking after our best interests and that shutting down and locking down were legit alternatives to "stopping the spread" (despite MOUNDS of evidence to the contrary), you should just go ahead and ban yourself.
It's now been made PAINFULLY obvious the shutdowns were ONLY a political tool to oust Trump from office (as anyone with a brainstem has said all along). The three biggest mouthpieces for locking down (Newsom, Cuomo and the Chicago Mayor) have ALL done complete 180's on lockdowns now that Trump has been defeated...but not before completely destroying their states' economies, and then awaiting the promised bailout from the Feds once Biden got elected.
If you weren't smart enough to see through that bullshit you should stay out of the deep end of these conversations--forever.
Politics played a roll, mistakes were made (true), and most political leaders in the world from Sweden to China to Israel were all in on this grand conspiracy to get Biden elected.
And everything is now opened back up, right? It will be April in Paris by April!
AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:28 pm
If you were on this board claiming for the past 10 months that the politicians were only looking after our best interests and that shutting down and locking down were legit alternatives to "stopping the spread" (despite MOUNDS of evidence to the contrary), you should just go ahead and ban yourself.
It's now been made PAINFULLY obvious the shutdowns were ONLY a political tool to oust Trump from office (as anyone with a brainstem has said all along). The three biggest mouthpieces for locking down (Newsom, Cuomo and the Chicago Mayor) have ALL done complete 180's on lockdowns now that Trump has been defeated...but not before completely destroying their states' economies, and then awaiting the promised bailout from the Feds once Biden got elected.
If you weren't smart enough to see through that bullshit you should stay out of the deep end of these conversations--forever.
Politics played a roll, mistakes were made (true), and most political leaders in the world from Sweden to China to Israel were all in on this grand conspiracy to get Biden elected.
And everything is now opened back up, right? It will be April in Paris by April!
I'd love to see some stats and an apples-to-apples comparison on infections, hospitalizations and deaths by state over the last 3-6 months to see if things are really that much better to justify the sudden change in reducing restrictions in Donk runs states.
Re: Coronavirus COVID-19
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:28 pm
by BDKJMU
Apparently 1 mask is no longer good enough. Now you have ass clowns saying people (the gen public) should be wearing 2 masks..
AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:28 pm
If you were on this board claiming for the past 10 months that the politicians were only looking after our best interests and that shutting down and locking down were legit alternatives to "stopping the spread" (despite MOUNDS of evidence to the contrary), you should just go ahead and ban yourself.
It's now been made PAINFULLY obvious the shutdowns were ONLY a political tool to oust Trump from office (as anyone with a brainstem has said all along). The three biggest mouthpieces for locking down (Newsom, Cuomo and the Chicago Mayor) have ALL done complete 180's on lockdowns now that Trump has been defeated...but not before completely destroying their states' economies, and then awaiting the promised bailout from the Feds once Biden got elected.
If you weren't smart enough to see through that bullshit you should stay out of the deep end of these conversations--forever.
Politics played a roll, mistakes were made (true), and most political leaders in the world from Sweden to China to Israel were all in on this grand conspiracy to get Biden elected.
And everything is now opened back up, right? It will be April in Paris by April!
*role
Like it or not, other countries take their cue from America.
And I never said everything (yet) was opened back up. But when the biggest opponents of opening things up all (within days of each other) do 180's, that doesn't peak your interest? Or make you look askance at the whole process?
Re: Coronavirus COVID-19
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:56 pm
by 89Hen
Take it FWIW, but this is an interesting piece...
Re: Coronavirus COVID-19
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:58 pm
by SDHornet
BDKJMU wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:24 am
Hey SD, good to see Newsome says you can your house now.
At this point, only dumbasses listen to him. Aside from athletic and entertainment events, the SD household have been back in the norm for a long time. Seeing friends, family, etc. We've been cautions but still get out. Biggest impact to us was having the kid's activities shut down, but that opened back up a few months ago and have stayed open.
Re: Coronavirus COVID-19
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:59 pm
by SDHornet
AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:28 pm
If you were on this board claiming for the past 10 months that the politicians were only looking after our best interests and that shutting down and locking down were legit alternatives to "stopping the spread" (despite MOUNDS of evidence to the contrary), you should just go ahead and ban yourself.
It's now been made PAINFULLY obvious the shutdowns were ONLY a political tool to oust Trump from office (as anyone with a brainstem has said all along). The three biggest mouthpieces for locking down (Newsom, Cuomo and the Chicago Mayor) have ALL done complete 180's on lockdowns now that Trump has been defeated...but not before completely destroying their states' economies, and then awaiting the promised bailout from the Feds once Biden got elected.
If you weren't smart enough to see through that bullshit you should stay out of the deep end of these conversations--forever.
AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:28 pm
If you were on this board claiming for the past 10 months that the politicians were only looking after our best interests and that shutting down and locking down were legit alternatives to "stopping the spread" (despite MOUNDS of evidence to the contrary), you should just go ahead and ban yourself.
It's now been made PAINFULLY obvious the shutdowns were ONLY a political tool to oust Trump from office (as anyone with a brainstem has said all along). The three biggest mouthpieces for locking down (Newsom, Cuomo and the Chicago Mayor) have ALL done complete 180's on lockdowns now that Trump has been defeated...but not before completely destroying their states' economies, and then awaiting the promised bailout from the Feds once Biden got elected.
If you weren't smart enough to see through that bullshit you should stay out of the deep end of these conversations--forever.
Lance sounds like a fucking genius.
Re: Coronavirus COVID-19
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:03 pm
by SeattleGriz
Can't make this up.
Pasco, WA teachers union president calls reopening schools tantamount to white supremacy.
Really? Seems the groups suffering the most are minorities. If it were really racist, you'd keep them closed forever.
Re: Coronavirus COVID-19
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:03 pm
by SDHornet
Per woldometer, CA cases have been magically dropping like a rock since Jan 14. Deaths are still steady. Both are at all-time highs since this all started, yet for some reason now CA lockdowns are lifted.
New cases 7 day average: 26,020. Was at 44,087 on Jan 14.
Deaths 7 day average: 504. Peaked at 536 on Jan 14
89Hen wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:56 pm
Take it FWIW, but this is an interesting piece...
Very disturbing if true. Not surprising liar liar pants on fire Fauci is involved..
BTW, this didn't age well. from a yr + 4 days ago:
This is why I was saying Dr Atlas was a better spokesman than Fauci. Fauci is no idiot, but he just seems to stick his foot in his mouth far too often.
Politics played a roll, mistakes were made (true), and most political leaders in the world from Sweden to China to Israel were all in on this grand conspiracy to get Biden elected.
And everything is now opened back up, right? It will be April in Paris by April!
I'd love to see some stats and an apples-to-apples comparison on infections, hospitalizations and deaths by state over the last 3-6 months to see if things are really that much better to justify the sudden change in reducing restrictions in Donk runs states.
The postmortems and specific time frame studies will be fascinating and challenging considering all of the variables.
Date of first infection. A “last three months” comparison between locations has to take into account disease timeline, baseline numbers, initial mitigating restrictions. For example, one state’s surge was just starting prior to enhanced mandates and voluntary social distancing while another is half way through the surge. Also, the later the outbreak the more likely prevention and treatments were improved and implemented reducing hospitalizations and deaths.
Population density. Still seems to play a big roll in total cases.
Location. Proximity and travel between states with different restrictions/level of compliance, level of enforcement. EG Spokane County has tougher restrictions while neighboring N. Idaho has virtually none with a ton of commerce and travel between the two.
Demographics. Extended family driven cultures. Greater respect for the elderly (CID mentioned this regarding Asia), at risk elderly populations that voluntarily isolate regardless of state imposed restrictions.
If you look at the CDC tracker going back to last January, no state escapes it. Assuming blue states have stronger restrictions, Illinois and R.I. are the only solidly blue states in the top two groups of highest infection rates. CA, TX, and FL are all in the same range.
The economic outcome studies tied to lockdowns and cases (long term effects and costs will obviously take awhile to unravel and become clear as will the health effects caused by lockdowns).
At this point, no one has avoided the crisis and there’s no decisive evidence that the lockdown cure is worse than the affliction.
Bad leadership from both sides continues to haunt us. Hypocrisy and inconsistency of mandates. Lockdowns without consistent relief stimulus for effected business owners, landlords, and workers.
Nice try. I will admit there are plenty of opinions, as there should be. Very few lock solid answers in the biological sciences.
