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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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JohnStOnge wrote:
UNI88 wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:59 pm This is delusional thinking. You are a threat to the republic and shouldn't be allowed to vote.
It's accurate thinking. You need to listen and stop the crap of acting like we are in a symmetrical situation right now where both major Parties are equally bad. That's not reality. We are in a crisis right now with respect to our system of government and there is a clear villain: The Republican Party that has been corrupted by Trump.

Look, I know it's Chique to do the "pox on both their houses" thing and act like they're both equally bad. But at this time in history it just isn't true.
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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UNI88 wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:23 pm
JohnStOnge wrote:
It's accurate thinking. You need to listen and stop the crap of acting like we are in a symmetrical situation right now where both major Parties are equally bad. That's not reality. We are in a crisis right now with respect to our system of government and there is a clear villain: The Republican Party that has been corrupted by Trump.

Look, I know it's Chique to do the "pox on both their houses" thing and act like they're both equally bad. But at this time in history it just isn't true.
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I disagree!

You’re both wrong!!! Equally!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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kalm wrote:
UNI88 wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:23 pm Wrong!

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I disagree!

You’re both wrong!!! Equally!!!!!!!!!
You're harshing my buzz bro!

I'm responding to JSO's post with as few words as possible

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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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Thoughtful story at the intersection of grunge and the pandemic.

“Guy Maddison has experienced the pandemic from a unique viewpoint: He’s a registered nurse at Harborview Medical Center and he’s also a member of one of Seattle’s most legendary and enduring bands, Mudhoney. He has performed this unusual juggling act for a couple of decades, but none of the challenges during that tenure can compare with the upheaval of this past year and a half. Mudhoney halted its tour schedule, and Maddison’s Harborview job threw him into the middle of the emergency response to COVID-19….”

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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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JohnStOnge wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:45 pm
SDHornet wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:28 am

Agreed, since Bernie, AOC and the rest of the squat have told us that is exactly what they want and are pushing policies that do exactly that.
That is a ridiculous statement. None of them have even remotely suggested they want totalitarian socialism.
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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kalm wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:55 am
SDHornet wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:29 am

My concerns go away when we have enough long term data to understand what side effects (and their likelihoods) come from this never before used mRNA vaccine.
Which is fine. Just stay away from others until we’re out of the woods.

Thanks!
If you're vaxxed, what are you afraid of? Just look at the cornucopia of info JSO is spewing on this thread.

Besides, my freedom is more valuable than your safety. :coffee:
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JohnStOnge wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:47 pm
SDHornet wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:24 am

I'm sure it does. And the data shows certain age groups are at such a low risk of death that getting the vaxx is meaningless...especially since it doesn't stop transmission. The argument is against forced vaccinations for a new vaccine that we have no long term data on. I'm not against anyone who wants it getting it.
Again: The data suggest it significantly reduces transmission. What the heck, since SeattleGriz has been looking at the UK report at https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... eek_40.pdf.
With the delta variant, vaccine effectiveness against infection has been estimated at around 65% with Vaxzevria and 80% with
Comirnaty
Comirnaty is Pfizer.
As described above, several studies have provided evidence that vaccines are effective at
preventing infection. Uninfected individuals cannot transmit; therefore, the vaccines are also
effective at preventing transmission. There may be additional benefit, beyond that due to
prevention of infection, if some of those individuals who become infected despite vaccination
are also at a reduced risk of transmitting (for example, because of reduced duration or level of
viral shedding). A household transmission study in England found that household contacts of
cases vaccinated with a single dose had approximately 35 to 50% reduced risk of becoming a
confirmed case of COVID-19.
So just stop. You are not "looking at the data" if you are concluding that it doesn't impede transmission.
Now do natural immunity. How many non-vaxxed folks have antibodies from a prior infection, and why do they need to get vaxxed?
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JohnStOnge wrote:
SDHornet wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:28 am Agreed, since Bernie, AOC and the rest of the squat have told us that is exactly what they want and are pushing policies that do exactly that.
That is a ridiculous statement. None of them have even remotely suggested they want totalitarian socialism.
Of course they haven’t. They never do. And, I am sure they mean it.

But socialist systems always migrate there.


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SDHornet wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:15 pm
kalm wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:55 am

Which is fine. Just stay away from others until we’re out of the woods.

Thanks!
If you're vaxxed, what are you afraid of? Just look at the cornucopia of info JSO is spewing on this thread.

Besides, my freedom is more valuable than your safety. :coffee:
Spoken like a true cultist. :lol:

I like my community and things opening up.

Why are you scared of science?

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Florida numbers are improving. Active cases have dropped almost by a quarter million. Still a reported 3/4 million active cases.
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kalm wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:37 am Why are you scared of science?
You're better than this.
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89Hen wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:56 am
kalm wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:37 am Why are you scared of science?
You're better than this.
Pretty simple. Some need to be reminded. It’s like the global warming debate. Lots of time and energy spent seeking politically based confirmation bias vs. best science and medicine.
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kalm wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:23 am
89Hen wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:56 am

You're better than this.
Pretty simple. Some need to be reminded. It’s like the global warming debate. Lots of time and energy spent seeking politically based confirmation bias vs. best science and medicine.
OK. I guess you're not.
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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kalm wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:37 am
Why are you scared of science?

Advice shifting on aspirin use for preventing heart attacks

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory ... s-80536935
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CAA Flagship wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:46 am
kalm wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:37 am
Why are you scared of science?

Advice shifting on aspirin use for preventing heart attacks

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory ... s-80536935
That's crazy, plus they give aspirin to horses! No wonder it never worked. Next they'll tell us to completely revamp the food pyramid because all those years they were wrong. Oh wait.
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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89Hen wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:56 am
kalm wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:37 am Why are you scared of science?
You're better than this.
Your informative and earnest thoughts are appreciated as always, Hen. :thumb:
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CAA Flagship wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:46 am
kalm wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:37 am
Why are you scared of science?

Advice shifting on aspirin use for preventing heart attacks

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory ... s-80536935
Read that yesterday. Also science.
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CID1990 wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:15 am
JohnStOnge wrote:
That is a ridiculous statement. None of them have even remotely suggested they want totalitarian socialism.
Of course they haven’t. They never do. And, I am sure they mean it.

But socialist systems always migrate there.


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And yet somehow he misses this well documented transformation...and the piles of bodies that accompany it.
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kalm wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:37 am
SDHornet wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:15 pm

If you're vaxxed, what are you afraid of? Just look at the cornucopia of info JSO is spewing on this thread.

Besides, my freedom is more valuable than your safety. :coffee:
Spoken like a true cultist. :lol:

I like my community and things opening up.

Why are you scared of science?

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So valuing freedom over safety is "cultist" now. Sweet Jesus, don't EVER proclaim yourself to be a post-partisan centrist again.

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AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:16 am
kalm wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:37 am

Spoken like a true cultist. :lol:

I like my community and things opening up.

Why are you scared of science?

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So valuing freedom over safety is "cultist" now. Sweet Jesus, don't EVER proclaim yourself to be a post-partisan centrist again.

Ben Franklin is rolling over in his grave as we speak.
I always get a kick from those that were most vocal about the gubmints grab on personal freedoms during 9/11 now going full "do what the gubmint says" retard wrt the freedom grab during the China Virus response. :lol: :dunce:
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AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:16 am
kalm wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:37 am

Spoken like a true cultist. :lol:

I like my community and things opening up.

Why are you scared of science?

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So valuing freedom over safety is "cultist" now. Sweet Jesus, don't EVER proclaim yourself to be a post-partisan centrist again.

Ben Franklin is rolling over in his grave as we speak.
Freedom relies on all of us…or at least enough of us to do what’s necessary to end the pandemic.

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SDHornet wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:45 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:16 am

So valuing freedom over safety is "cultist" now. Sweet Jesus, don't EVER proclaim yourself to be a post-partisan centrist again.

Ben Franklin is rolling over in his grave as we speak.
I always get a kick from those that were most vocal about the gubmints grab on personal freedoms during 9/11 now going full "do what the gubmint says" retard wrt the freedom grab during the China Virus response. :lol: :dunce:
9/11? So long ago and so few died that no one really cares. :|

I’d be surprised if there was anyone on this board more vocal about the patriot act than me.
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kalm wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:49 am
SDHornet wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:45 am

I always get a kick from those that were most vocal about the gubmints grab on personal freedoms during 9/11 now going full "do what the gubmint says" retard wrt the freedom grab during the China Virus response. :lol: :dunce:
9/11? So long ago and so few died that no one really cares. :|

I’d be surprised if there was anyone on this board more vocal about the patriot act than me.
:lol: Keep digging that totalitarian hole, klammy. :lol:
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Its getting close! I really though AZ's comment would have done it, but he's hanging tough.
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SDHornet wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:22 am
kalm wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:49 am

9/11? So long ago and so few died that no one really cares. :|

I’d be surprised if there was anyone on this board more vocal about the patriot act than me.
:lol: Keep digging that totalitarian hole, klammy. :lol:
I’m sorry you didn’t have more. Better luck next time. :thumb:
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