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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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kalm wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:49 am
Ibanez wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:32 am

Since the Delta variant is hitting children - we're a bit worried. We homeschooled last year and this year we are sending her to 1st Grade. South Carolina could give a rats ass about public health (politics over everything else).

A childhood friend of MrsCCU refused to get the vaccine b/c she thought it was dangerous and there's a 99% chance that she'd survive if she got COVID. Her funeral is next week. Her husband, who is MAGA x2, just got his 1st shot and is requiring anyone who wants to attend to have had at least the 1st shot. It's wat too late for so many families.

For me the benefits of the vaccine far outweighed the risks of any complication from the vaccine (or any long lasting effect from surviving COVID). :twocents: But - if you don't think it's right for you, then that's fine. Just don't be a dick to those that had.
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One of my closest friend’s father is a denier who is now intubated after catching it in Branson. He’s back home at a hospital in Austin. It’s been sad hearing about his daily decline. It’s politics driven, with some members of the family Q followers. The wife had to secretly get vaccinated behind the father’s back.

My buddy had it last fall and has experienced months of long haulers symptoms with mental acuity.

It’s just sad.
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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Interesting history here. Spanish orphans used and shipped as vaccine storage containers to fight the spread of smallpox in the 18th century. 300,000 doses delivered worldwide.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... wTrpC-KqXc
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This sure didn't help and where is all the data Biden said was going to be available to everyone?

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SeattleGriz wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:19 am This sure didn't help and where is all the data Biden said was going to be available to everyone?

Similar to the efficacy of masks...contrarians are going contrarian.
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kalm wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:37 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:19 am This sure didn't help and where is all the data Biden said was going to be available to everyone?

Similar to the efficacy of masks...contrarians are going contrarian.
No they won't.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:47 am
kalm wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:37 am

Similar to the efficacy of masks...contrarians are going contrarian.
No they won't.
You are.
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kalm wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:49 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:47 am

No they won't.
You are.
No, he's not.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:19 am This sure didn't help and where is all the data Biden said was going to be available to everyone?

With the health care law that Trump said was forthcoming...and never came. :lol:
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89Hen wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:51 am
kalm wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:49 am
You are.
No, he's not.
He was talking about SG? Here I thought Biden was the contrarian - saying one thing during the campaign and then contradicting himself while in office. Maybe contrarian isn't the right word for Biden, hypocrite might be better.
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UNI88 wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:05 am
89Hen wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:51 am

No, he's not.
He was talking about SG? Here I thought Biden was the contrarian - saying one thing during the campaign and then contradicting himself while in office. Maybe contrarian isn't the right word for Biden, hypocrite might be better.
(...got to...avoid...taking the bait of reacting to an out of context hackey video that adds nothing to a reasoned discussion of the topic...somehow...)

:lol:

Yes...I was speaking of SG.
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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kalm wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:23 am
UNI88 wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:05 am
He was talking about SG? Here I thought Biden was the contrarian - saying one thing during the campaign and then contradicting himself while in office. Maybe contrarian isn't the right word for Biden, hypocrite might be better.
(...got to...avoid...taking the bait of reacting to an out of context hackey video that adds nothing to a reasoned discussion of the topic...somehow...)

:lol:

Yes...I was speaking of SG.
Well I am a contrarian and SG is no contrarian.

Biden's partisan hypocrisy should not be defended/deflected from by a post-partisan.
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UNI88 wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:31 am
kalm wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:23 am

(...got to...avoid...taking the bait of reacting to an out of context hackey video that adds nothing to a reasoned discussion of the topic...somehow...)

:lol:

Yes...I was speaking of SG.
Well I am a contrarian and SG is no contrarian.

Biden's partisan hypocrisy should not be defended/deflected from by a post-partisan.
Correct.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:47 am
kalm wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:46 pm

The earlier stuff was a reported story that Covid was found in Italian blood samples from September ‘19.

I read this story today regarding under-counts.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... TvoaRQqrpU
I have read as well that COVID was here earlier and much larger than believed. The study came to their conclusion by testing of the blood supply donations just like your statement.

It wouldn't surprise me that more have had COVID, as roughly 80% of the population had some form of immunity to COVID before the pandemic started, so you'll have a large pool that probably felt "something" but didn't get full on I'll. Although I'm sure they will use modeling and we've seen how poor the modeling has been from the start.
Same here in CA. I recall an article stating that it is likely it was here in Dec 2019. That said, raising the number on those that had it decreases it's death rate, no?
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SeattleGriz wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:05 am
kalm wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:54 am

Sweet! So it will also disrupt supply chains, strain hospitals, create further lockdowns, and only kill 700,000 people here!
Not if we use the common sense approach we have done for hundreds of years, where we isolate those most susceptible.

Lock downs and masking have both taken a beating in the studies.

COVID is gonna COVID.
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SDHornet wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:37 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:47 am

I have read as well that COVID was here earlier and much larger than believed. The study came to their conclusion by testing of the blood supply donations just like your statement.

It wouldn't surprise me that more have had COVID, as roughly 80% of the population had some form of immunity to COVID before the pandemic started, so you'll have a large pool that probably felt "something" but didn't get full on I'll. Although I'm sure they will use modeling and we've seen how poor the modeling has been from the start.
Same here in CA. I recall an article stating that it is likely it was here in Dec 2019. That said, raising the number on those that had it decreases it's death rate, no?
Correct. Pushes the Infection Fatality Rate lower.
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kalm wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:23 am
UNI88 wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:05 am

He was talking about SG? Here I thought Biden was the contrarian - saying one thing during the campaign and then contradicting himself while in office. Maybe contrarian isn't the right word for Biden, hypocrite might be better.
(...got to...avoid...taking the bait of reacting to an out of context hackey video that adds nothing to a reasoned discussion of the topic...somehow...)

:lol:

Yes...I was speaking of SG.
It's very important. Vaccine rates among the two most populous minorities that vote overwhelmingly Democrat are very low. Biden's playing cutsie politics is now biting him in the rear.
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Ibanez wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:06 am
The ex-President did tell his supporters to get the vaccine on Saturday — but in such a way that offered an out for those who have bought into conservative misinformation about it -- and in an attack on Biden, he further politicized the issue. Yet again, Trump showed that he was not willing to diminish his own political capital for the greater good.
"I recommend that you take it, but I also believe in your freedoms 100%," Trump said, before adding, "because they don't trust the President, people aren't doing it."
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/25/politics ... index.html

Trump talking on both sides of the issues and blaming Biden for the reason people aren't getting vaccinated (which I'm not sure how that is, but I'm sure he has proof). :lol: And we call UNI88 a fence straddler.

Trump is the main importer of distrust. I'm not sure why anyone would believe him. He's off his rocker if he thinks Republicans and alt-righters like BDK aren't getting the vaccine (which Trump takes credit for getting to the market so quickly) b/c of Biden. I'm not sure of the logic there. :dunce:
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SeattleGriz wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:48 am
SDHornet wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:37 am
Same here in CA. I recall an article stating that it is likely it was here in Dec 2019. That said, raising the number on those that had it decreases it's death rate, no?
Correct. Pushes the Infection Fatality Rate lower.
Indeed. It was apparent from the start that Covid makes its hay from high infection rates. Still has killed millions tho.
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:13 am
Ibanez wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:06 am

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/25/politics ... index.html

Trump talking on both sides of the issues and blaming Biden for the reason people aren't getting vaccinated (which I'm not sure how that is, but I'm sure he has proof). :lol: And we call UNI88 a fence straddler.

Trump is the main importer of distrust. I'm not sure why anyone would believe him. He's off his rocker if he thinks Republicans and alt-righters like BDK aren't getting the vaccine (which Trump takes credit for getting to the market so quickly) b/c of Biden. I'm not sure of the logic there. :dunce:
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Oh. The other virus.

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So this is really a pandemic of the people, not just unvaccinated. Now if the CDC would start testing those that have been vaccinated (asymptomatic) and also start counting those who are not in the hospital or dead, we could get an understanding of what really is happening. Don't forget they want to change the tests now too.



This didn't age well.

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I just did a rapid scroll down on all this hyper bullshit

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