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Natalie Wester and her husband wore masks inside a Texas restaurant to protect their newborn son who has cystic fibrosis — so the owner kicked them out.
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Gil Dobie wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:14 pm Natalie Wester and her husband wore masks inside a Texas restaurant to protect their newborn son who has cystic fibrosis — so the owner kicked them out.
Too many people have no sense of civic duty or belonging to a community anymore. Something something freedom.

But those same people claim "my body, my choice" when they really mean "your body, my choice."
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∞∞∞ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:37 pm
Gil Dobie wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:14 pm Natalie Wester and her husband wore masks inside a Texas restaurant to protect their newborn son who has cystic fibrosis — so the owner kicked them out.
Too many people have no sense of civic duty or belonging to a community anymore. Something something freedom.

But those same people claim "my body, my choice" when they really mean "your body, my choice."
But it's cool for businesses to require masks? Something something nazi's.
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SDHornet wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:37 pm
∞∞∞ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:37 pm

Too many people have no sense of civic duty or belonging to a community anymore. Something something freedom.

But those same people claim "my body, my choice" when they really mean "your body, my choice."
But it's cool for businesses to require masks? Something something nazi's.
People have a right to protect themselves. People don't have a right to be a risk to others.

So yes, businesses can require masks.

And the Nazi comparison is beneath you.
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SDHornet wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:37 pm
∞∞∞ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:37 pm

Too many people have no sense of civic duty or belonging to a community anymore. Something something freedom.

But those same people claim "my body, my choice" when they really mean "your body, my choice."
But it's cool for businesses to require masks? Something something nazi's.
Nice liberal tactic you are using there Mabel. :lol:
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Gil Dobie wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:14 pm Natalie Wester and her husband wore masks inside a Texas restaurant to protect their newborn son who has cystic fibrosis — so the owner kicked them out.
Well, if businesses can REQUIRE masks, they can require NO masks.
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Gil Dobie wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:00 pm
SDHornet wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:37 pm

But it's cool for businesses to require masks? Something something nazi's.
Nice liberal tactic you are using there Mabel. :lol:
I play by their rules.


They hate that. :coffee:
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∞∞∞ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:52 pm
SDHornet wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:37 pm

But it's cool for businesses to require masks? Something something nazi's.
People have a right to protect themselves. People don't have a right to be a risk to others.

So yes, businesses can require masks.

And the Nazi comparison is beneath you.
So then driving should be banned....something something if it saves just one life.

Fucking amateur hour up in this bitch tonight. :coffee:
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AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:03 pm
Gil Dobie wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:14 pm Natalie Wester and her husband wore masks inside a Texas restaurant to protect their newborn son who has cystic fibrosis — so the owner kicked them out.
Well, if businesses can REQUIRE masks, they can require NO masks.
My point exactly. :coffee:
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AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:03 pm
Gil Dobie wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:14 pm Natalie Wester and her husband wore masks inside a Texas restaurant to protect their newborn son who has cystic fibrosis — so the owner kicked them out.
Well, if businesses can REQUIRE masks, they can require NO masks.
If a law mandates it, then no. Society has a duty to protect itself.

But to your point, I don't disagree but there is a fundamental reason why there's a difference.

Someone wearing a mask literally affects no one, as was the case with the couple Gil Dobie cited. Their bodily autonomy infringes on no one else's bodily autonomy. Consequences for wearing a mask are inappropriate.

With the case of anti-maskers, during a global health crisis, their bodily autonomy to not wear a mask can have an effect on other people's bodily autonomy. Consequences for not wearing a mask are appropriate.

This is the main difference.
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∞∞∞ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:15 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:03 pm

Well, if businesses can REQUIRE masks, they can require NO masks.
If a law mandates it, then no.

But to your point, I don't disagree but there is a fundamental difference in why there's a difference.

Someone wearing a mask literally affects no one, as was the case with the couple Gil Dobie cited. Their bodily autonomy infringes on no one else's bodily autonomy. Their choice risks no one. Consequences for wearing a mask are inappropriate.

With the case of anti-maskers, during a global health crisis, their bodily autonomy to not wear a mask and go in areas where masks are mandated can have an effect on other people's bodily autonomy. Consequences for not wearing a mask are appropriate.

This is the main difference.
Who cares, a private business can do what it wants so long it's within the law...assuming laws aren't malleable in this case...and if they are malleable, then homeslice can do whatever the fuck he wants in his business establishment with regards to masks, no?
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AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:03 pm
Gil Dobie wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:14 pm Natalie Wester and her husband wore masks inside a Texas restaurant to protect their newborn son who has cystic fibrosis — so the owner kicked them out.
Well, if businesses can REQUIRE masks, they can require NO masks.
Sure they can act like a 5 year old like Trump does. I'll bet they voted for Trump.
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∞∞∞ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:15 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:03 pm

Well, if businesses can REQUIRE masks, they can require NO masks.
If a law mandates it, then no. Society has a duty to protect itself.

But to your point, I don't disagree but there is a fundamental reason why there's a difference.

Someone wearing a mask literally affects no one, as was the case with the couple Gil Dobie cited. Their bodily autonomy infringes on no one else's bodily autonomy. Consequences for wearing a mask are inappropriate.

With the case of anti-maskers, during a global health crisis, their bodily autonomy to not wear a mask and go in areas where masks are mandated can have an effect on other people's bodily autonomy. Consequences for not wearing a mask are appropriate.

This is the main difference.
Laws and mandates are malleable, so who gives a fuck?
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∞∞∞ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:00 pm Bill Burr is a national treasure. 5:02 to 8:36 is gold:

I love Bill Burr - although he's far funnier when he uses profanity. Listening to that clip felt so restrained.
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He can do it if the law permits (which it does in this case), but his reasons don't make sense.

Hopefully the business fails.
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GannonFan wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:21 pm
∞∞∞ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:00 pm Bill Burr is a national treasure. 5:02 to 8:36 is gold:

I love Bill Burr - although he's far funnier when he uses profanity. Listening to that clip felt so restrained.
For sure, but it was national television so he was definitely limited.
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∞∞∞ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:25 pm He can do it if the law permits (which it does in this case), but his reasons don't make sense.

Hopefully the business fails.
Laws are malleable, so again, who gives a fuck?

And good on you for being a good little neo-Marxist for wishing ill on those who don't align with your ideals.
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∞∞∞ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:25 pm He can do it if the law permits (which it does in this case), but his reasons don't make sense.

Hopefully the business fails.
Laws are malleable, so again, who gives a fuck?

And good on you for being a good little neo-Marxist for wishing ill on those who don't align with your ideals.
That’s how they roll

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SDHornet wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:29 pm
∞∞∞ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:25 pm He can do it if the law permits (which it does in this case), but his reasons don't make sense.

Hopefully the business fails.
Laws are malleable, so again, who gives a fuck?

And good on you for being a good little neo-Marxist for wishing ill on those who don't align with your ideals.
He can do whatever he wants. The rest of society can use or ignore the law however it wants as well.

You also don't understand neo-marxism but that's ok. Just know that not supporting a product/person because of XYZ is very much a capitalism thing. Capitalism is basically the ultimate cancel culture.
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∞∞∞ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:44 pm
SDHornet wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:29 pm

Laws are malleable, so again, who gives a fuck?

And good on you for being a good little neo-Marxist for wishing ill on those who don't align with your ideals.
He can do whatever he wants. The rest of society can use or ignore the law however it wants as well.

You also don't understand neo-marxism but that's ok. Just know that not supporting a product/person because of XYZ is very much a capitalism thing. Capitalism is basically the ultimate cancel culture.
You're the dumbass that said laws are malleable. Now you are bitching about something as useless as a mask mandate, or lack thereof, in a private business. I'm just here calling out your bullshit and enjoying your mental gymnastics. :popcorn:
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CID1990 wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:40 pm
SDHornet wrote:
Laws are malleable, so again, who gives a fuck?

And good on you for being a good little neo-Marxist for wishing ill on those who don't align with your ideals.
That’s how they roll

Rules and laws can be ignored... except for the ones our commissars enact (for the greater good)


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But it's so fun watching them try and explain which laws are important and should be followed. :lol:
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∞∞∞ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:15 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:03 pm

Well, if businesses can REQUIRE masks, they can require NO masks.
If a law mandates it, then no. Society has a duty to protect itself.

But to your point, I don't disagree but there is a fundamental reason why there's a difference.

Someone wearing a mask literally affects no one, as was the case with the couple Gil Dobie cited. Their bodily autonomy infringes on no one else's bodily autonomy. Consequences for wearing a mask are inappropriate.

With the case of anti-maskers, during a global health crisis, their bodily autonomy to not wear a mask can have an effect on other people's bodily autonomy. Consequences for not wearing a mask are appropriate.

This is the main difference.
Well, I disagree. The owner clearly said he felt it was a political statement for them to wear a mask where masks were prohibited. So….no masks! Kind of like “no shirt no shoes no service”….”masks? No service…”
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SDHornet wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:29 pm
∞∞∞ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:25 pm He can do it if the law permits (which it does in this case), but his reasons don't make sense.

Hopefully the business fails.
Laws are malleable, so again, who gives a fuck?

And good on you for being a good little neo-Marxist for wishing ill on those who don't align with your ideals.
If Trip is a neo-Marxist for wishing ill on a business that says no masks is BDKaren a neo-Nazi for wishing ill on businesses that require masks?
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