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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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UNI88 wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:16 pm
SDHornet wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:29 pm

Laws are malleable, so again, who gives a fuck?

And good on you for being a good little neo-Marxist for wishing ill on those who don't align with your ideals.
If Trip is a neo-Marxist for wishing ill on a business that says no masks is BDKaren a neo-Nazi for wishing ill on businesses that require masks?
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Freedom is the right of the business to refuse service AND the right of people to criticize said business for their policies.

This one isn’t a legal question, it’s a moral question.
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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kalm wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:17 am
See? That’s why I like you WB. You’re helpful problem solver and you care!

And I buy most of my medical supplies from the feed and tack these days anyway, so this fits perfectly!
Think of it as a down payment on bribing a potential future interment camp guard. :kisswink:
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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kalm wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:14 am Being healthy certainly helps but even that is not a guarantee…
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So in light of vaccine talk, this is an interesting take. You can see from the COVID data, it's around the age of 50 that people take a bad turn. That age point is right where the MMR went from one shot to two. So if you didn't get two shots of MMR, you're not as protected. Just a guys guess, but still interesting.

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Winterborn wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:46 am
kalm wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:14 am Being healthy certainly helps but even that is not a guarantee…
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Gil Dobie wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 6:25 am
Winterborn wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:46 am

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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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∞∞∞ wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 4:02 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:58 pm

Glad you are well and congratulations on probably having one of the most pissed off at COVID immunities around.

May you never have to worry again.
God I hope so. I was talking with my friend at the NIH yesterday and asking him how what my chances are heading in winter, and he's thinking it's at 95-99% resistance right now. With Delta, it was probably 80%-85% prior to infection. Still, I'm rethinking how I'm going to handle things heading forward; I clearly relaxed and it got me. If I a roll a d100 and get a 1 anytime I encounter the virus this Fall/Winter, I could be re-infected.

I think I'm ok doing outdoor things with small groups, but I think I'm done doing anything in large gatherings for a while. Definitely not doing anything indoors besides work and hanging out with parents/sister. Gonna double-mask when I'm indoors shopping or whatever.

Still, chance of severe sickness is incredibly low at this point no matter if I get it again or not.
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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Gil Dobie wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:14 pm Natalie Wester and her husband wore masks inside a Texas restaurant to protect their newborn son who has cystic fibrosis — so the owner kicked them out.
Did the restaurant have a sign saying no masks allowed?
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:03 pm
Gil Dobie wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:14 pm Natalie Wester and her husband wore masks inside a Texas restaurant to protect their newborn son who has cystic fibrosis — so the owner kicked them out.
Well, if businesses can REQUIRE masks, they can require NO masks.
Bingo.
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FDA official:
”Census goes door-to-door if you don’t respond. So, we have the infrastructure to do it [forced COVID vaccinations]. I mean, it’ll cost a ton of money. But I think, at that point, I think there needs to be a registry of people who aren’t vaccinated. Although that’s sounding very [much like Nazi] Germany.

Nazi Germany…I mean, think about it like the Jewish Star [for unvaccinated Americans],”
https://redstate.com/brandon_morse/2021 ... ns-n446975
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Notice how the specific rules for Biden’s vaccine mandate have yet to be released 2 weeks after he announced his mandate. Its clear as soon as the formal rules are released by the Dept of Labor, they are going to be a flurry of lawsuits filed in numerous Fed Courts, and some judge (all it takes is one) is going to issue a nationwide injunction, and by the end of the year SCOTUS will rule the mandate unconstitutional.
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 3:37 pm Notice how the specific rules for Biden’s vaccine mandate have yet to be released 2 weeks after he announced his mandate. Its clear as soon as the formal rules are released by the Dept of Labor, they are going to be a flurry of lawsuits filed in numerous Fed Courts, and some judge (all it takes is one) is going to issue a nationwide injunction, and by the end of the year SCOTUS will rule the mandate unconstitutional.
I'm still of the belief it was never really going to gain any traction and was simply thrown out there to distract from Afghanistan.
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:36 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 3:37 pm Notice how the specific rules for Biden’s vaccine mandate have yet to be released 2 weeks after he announced his mandate. Its clear as soon as the formal rules are released by the Dept of Labor, they are going to be a flurry of lawsuits filed in numerous Fed Courts, and some judge (all it takes is one) is going to issue a nationwide injunction, and by the end of the year SCOTUS will rule the mandate unconstitutional.
I'm still of the belief it was never really going to gain any traction and was simply thrown out there to distract from Afghanistan.
Do they have shitty lawyers at the White House? Did they think the CDC’s eviction moratorium (which amounted to govt seizure of private property without dues process) or this vaccine mandate on private businesses (a 1st of its type in our nation’s history) is going to be upheld by SCOTUS?
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:16 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:36 pm

I'm still of the belief it was never really going to gain any traction and was simply thrown out there to distract from Afghanistan.
Do they have shitty lawyers at the White House? Did they think the CDC’s eviction moratorium (which amounted to govt seizure of private property without dues process) or this vaccine mandate on private businesses (a 1st of its type in our nation’s history) is going to be upheld by SCOTUS?
When it's used as a distraction, which worked, then I don't think any of that matters. Just drag it out and try to make it look like you really cared and that's about it. Just something else to divide the country, press people's buttons and you don't have to talk about Afghanistan anymore.
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Delta Variant losing steam across the country and across the globe….unleash the next Variant, Fauci! You’re about to lose your power!
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Yep, time for the Moo variant…
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SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:36 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 3:37 pm Notice how the specific rules for Biden’s vaccine mandate have yet to be released 2 weeks after he announced his mandate. Its clear as soon as the formal rules are released by the Dept of Labor, they are going to be a flurry of lawsuits filed in numerous Fed Courts, and some judge (all it takes is one) is going to issue a nationwide injunction, and by the end of the year SCOTUS will rule the mandate unconstitutional.
I'm still of the belief it was never really going to gain any traction and was simply thrown out there to distract from Afghanistan.
The same thought has crossed my mind as well and it is because when you really get down into the order, parts of it do not add up if they were really concerned about "saving lives". Overall the scope is too narrow and limited to be much more than a publicity stunt. Especially if one takes into account the demographics of who it affects and who has already been "vaccinated".
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Good god…we really are this fucking stupid… :lol:

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kalm wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:31 am Good god…we really are this fucking stupid… :lol:

My bet is every single person in that video voted for Trump. The Republican Party has become the Party of Stupid. It is what it is.
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Winterborn wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 4:49 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:36 pm

I'm still of the belief it was never really going to gain any traction and was simply thrown out there to distract from Afghanistan.
The same thought has crossed my mind as well and it is because when you really get down into the order, parts of it do not add up if they were really concerned about "saving lives". Overall the scope is too narrow and limited to be much more than a publicity stunt. Especially if one takes into account the demographics of who it affects and who has already been "vaccinated".
It also gives no allowance for those who have natural immunity..
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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:55 pm
Winterborn wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 4:49 am

The same thought has crossed my mind as well and it is because when you really get down into the order, parts of it do not add up if they were really concerned about "saving lives". Overall the scope is too narrow and limited to be much more than a publicity stunt. Especially if one takes into account the demographics of who it affects and who has already been "vaccinated".
It also gives no allowance for those who have natural immunity..
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kalm wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 7:05 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:55 pm
It also gives no allowance for those who have natural immunity..
(Every anti-vaxxer raises hand…)
Antibody testing.
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kalm wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 7:05 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:55 pm
It also gives no allowance for those who have natural immunity..
(Every anti-vaxxer raises hand…)
20 plus percent of people that have had a positive covid test, did not create antibodies, while others would get more protection from getting a serious infection.
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Gil Dobie wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:43 am
kalm wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 7:05 pm

(Every anti-vaxxer raises hand…)
20 plus percent of people that have had a positive covid test, did not create antibodies, while others would get more protection from getting a serious infection.
So maybe those 20% had a false positive. Got any links?
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