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SDHornet wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:22 pm
kalm wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:58 pm

:lol:

It would just seem to depend on how long the virus cells live on the surface of the mask. I was thinking more along the lines of a mask's ability to block particles. For someone who has to wear it daily for work it's probably significant, but for someone like me who only has to wear one every few days, it's probably less important.

But anything that reduces the amount of airborne cells is still better than nothing, no?
Since used masks aren't treated as a biohazard waste, I'm thinking the whole thing is moot.
Based on how many I have seen lying on the ground they must also be biodegradable. :nod:
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SDHornet wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:24 pm So what's the point of getting the vaccine? :lol: :dunce:


Shush! You are not supposed to ask those types of questions to ones betters. :lol:


Florida seems to be doing very well. :coffee:
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SDHornet wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:24 pm So what's the point of getting the vaccine? :lol: :dunce:

It's stuff like this why I have him on my punch list.
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HI54UNI wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:37 am
SDHornet wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:24 pm So what's the point of getting the vaccine? :lol: :dunce:

It's stuff like this why I have him on my punch list.
I don't think Fauci is all there, unless there is context I'm missing. People are dining indoors and going to events, even without the vaccine.

After listening to the video, it sounds like he's talking about wearing mask at these places, to prevent spreading the virus, even if you are vaccinated.
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The context is WRT to a mask (and other measures). What he said is exactly what I've read and medical friends have told me.

And hell, I've had the virus and know I can't get it or spread it (for a little while at least).

Wear a mask people, stay distant, be safe. It's your civic duty.
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Where's 2021 Flu deaths? Because it's been cured...
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Where's 2021 Flu deaths? Because it's been cured...
Thank you Covid Protocol. :nod:
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Gil Dobie wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:43 am
HI54UNI wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:37 am

It's stuff like this why I have him on my punch list.
I don't think Fauci is all there, unless there is context I'm missing. People are dining indoors and going to events, even without the vaccine.

After listening to the video, it sounds like he's talking about wearing mask at these places, to prevent spreading the virus, even if you are vaccinated.
Adolph Fauci strikes again! :lol:

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Osterholm was on MSNBC last night and indicated that social distancing guidelines post vaccination is an impossible ask. EG: grandparents can hang with their grandkids.

Meanwhile he’s also suggesting relying on 1/2 dosages for Moderna (they probably over-shot the potency), allocating a greater percentage to seniors, and delaying 2nd jabs to reach herd immunity.

He repeatedly warned about the spread of variants.
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Very interesting read and another expert who’s worthy of following.
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It’s still early days for clinical trials, so I’ll be tracking those and new boosters against variants, as well as what happens in vaccinated communities. [I’m] also watching how the rich countries are cornering vaccines, and those advancing their geopolitics to fill in the gaps — it’s actually quite a horrifying thing.

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Very rarely do you see people from one of the rich countries expressing concern that their country may be fully vaccinated within a few months. I’m not utopian and that idealistic about it. It was never 100 percent going to happen that way [that the high priority groups in rich and poor countries got vaccinated at the same levels at the same time, per WHO advice], but I hoped at least for something roughly close, and I’m really quite shocked how comfortable people are with what’s happening.

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In a way, for me, that’s the story of the pandemic. We had too many people more concerned about their individual rights or about wearing masks or flying for a vacation, or complaining about the restrictions that they faced, than the consequences of those actions for people more vulnerable than themselves. Now, it’s playing out [with] vaccines, too.

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We need to reduce the chances of the virus morphing into more dangerous variants — vaccines might not protect communities enough from new variants sweeping through. And many of the rich countries will have trouble getting enough people vaccinated anyway. The notion that there can be countries where there’s going to be 40-year-olds and 30-year-olds vaccinated while there are terrible outbreaks in other parts of the world, and even the health care practitioners are unprotected, isn’t okay on any level.

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kalm wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:53 am Very interesting read and another expert who’s worthy of following.

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I am not so sure on those qualifications. :coffee: Remember that Star Trek command had all that trouble with the Borg? To say nothing of the Klingon"s in the early days.
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Winterborn wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 2:46 pm
kalm wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:53 am Very interesting read and another expert who’s worthy of following.


I am not so sure on those qualifications. :coffee: Remember that Star Trek command had all that trouble with the Borg? To say nothing of the Klingon"s in the early days.
Ah yes. The Battle of Wolf 359
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SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:03 pm
Winterborn wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 2:46 pm

I am not so sure on those qualifications. :coffee: Remember that Star Trek command had all that trouble with the Borg? To say nothing of the Klingon"s in the early days.
Ah yes. The Battle of Wolf 359
Also the Battle of Sector 001.
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Winterborn wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 2:46 pm
kalm wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:53 am Very interesting read and another expert who’s worthy of following.
I am not so sure on those qualifications. :coffee: Remember that Star Trek command had all that trouble with the Borg? To say nothing of the Klingon"s in the early days.
Don't forget the Tribbles. They caused a lot of trouble.
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Picard is a decent new Star Trek series.
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:10 pm
Winterborn wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 2:46 pm

I am not so sure on those qualifications. :coffee: Remember that Star Trek command had all that trouble with the Borg? To say nothing of the Klingon"s in the early days.
Don't forget the Tribbles. They caused a lot of trouble.
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Gil Dobie wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:12 pm Picard is a decent new Star Trek series.
I like Patrick Stewart but not a fan of the script writing in it.
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Winterborn wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:01 pm
UNI88 wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:10 pm
Don't forget the Tribbles. They caused a lot of trouble.
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They're like little socialists, they look adorably harmless, but can cause significant damage when allowed to spread. :D
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Winterborn wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:16 am
SDHornet wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:22 pm

Since used masks aren't treated as a biohazard waste, I'm thinking the whole thing is moot.
Based on how many I have seen lying on the ground they must also be biodegradable. :nod:
To this day, I still cannot understand how someone can willfully litter.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:45 pm
Winterborn wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:16 am

Based on how many I have seen lying on the ground they must also be biodegradable. :nod:
To this day, I still cannot understand how someone can willfully litter.
You are young and might not remember the days when our ditches were full of trash. We had a clean up day at school every year, where we would clean them up. Nice gunny sack full of trash, for around 100 of us each spring.
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Gil Dobie wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:27 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:45 pm

To this day, I still cannot understand how someone can willfully litter.
You are young and might not remember the days when our ditches were full of trash. We had a clean up day at school every year, where we would clean them up. Nice gunny sack full of trash, for around 100 of us each spring.
My first job was picking garbage for $1 an hour along the fairgrounds fence line in Missoula. Every summer, for weeks before the fair came to town, me and my brother would go along the fence (3-4 miles, surrounding the entire fairgrounds) and fill bag after bag. When that job was done we’d follow the tractor around the horse track and pick 5 gallon buckets of rocks. When THAT was done we’d shovel out the 100+ horse stalls for 75 cents a stall.
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:28 pm
Winterborn wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:01 pm

Good point!

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They're like little socialists, they look adorably harmless, but can cause significant damage when allowed to spread. :D
:nod:

That and they should never be fed (given in to) least they breed uncontrollably and wreck an ecosystem.
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Gil Dobie wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:27 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:45 pm

To this day, I still cannot understand how someone can willfully litter.
You are young and might not remember the days when our ditches were full of trash. We had a clean up day at school every year, where we would clean them up. Nice gunny sack full of trash, for around 100 of us each spring.
We actually used to participate in Earth Day back when I grew up, but only did it at the small high school I attended. Never did it in the "big city" of Great Falls.
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Winterborn wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 5:54 am
UNI88 wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:28 pm

They're like little socialists, they look adorably harmless, but can cause significant damage when allowed to spread. :D
:nod:

That and they should never be fed (given in to) least they breed uncontrollably and wreck an ecosystem.
* lest.

And you must be thinking of religious conservatives.
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