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UNI88 wrote:
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Nope. Reading is fundamental. Laughing at people who laugh at the notion the riots were the cause of the increasing #s isn't laughing at yourself.
That's funny because I :lol: at the shallow kool-aid drinkers who think that the riots were the only major cause of the increasing #s.
It obviously was t the only cause...

But the only major mass gatherings that correlate to the closely followed spike in cases were the BLM riots

Which means there’s more than “cow farts” evidence for it

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Gil Dobie wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:28 pm
BDKJMU wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 11:41 am

And I :lol: and people who :lol: at the notion the protests were a reason for the increase.
Where is the big increase in Minnesota then?????

Riots were a month and a half ago.
5/26 riots started. But even after they ended after 5/30, were still large demonstrations & protests continued.
6/19, the 7 day moving avg for MN bottomed out at 319 cases (World-o-meter)
7/17 the 7 day moving avg up to 607 cases.
That looks like they started to shoot up about 3 weeks after the protests. Well, we've heard about a 2-3 week lag time.

But that is for the whole state of MN. I'd like to see the numbers for Minneapolis.
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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CID1990 wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:16 pm
UNI88 wrote:
That's funny because I :lol: at the shallow kool-aid drinkers who think that the riots were the only major cause of the increasing #s.
It obviously was t the only cause...

But the only major mass gatherings that correlate to the closely followed spike in cases were the BLM riots

Which means there’s more than “cow farts” evidence for it

But never fear! Our betters in high castles are already chastising us for getting haircuts again, so all is back to normal
Why is it the southern states getting hit. Minnesota had, and is still having large protest.
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19

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Gil Dobie wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:19 pm
CID1990 wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:16 pm


It obviously was t the only cause...

But the only major mass gatherings that correlate to the closely followed spike in cases were the BLM riots

Which means there’s more than “cow farts” evidence for it

But never fear! Our betters in high castles are already chastising us for getting haircuts again, so all is back to normal
Why is it the southern states getting hit. Minnesota had, and is still having large protest.
And Minnesota's #s have been going up since mid June.
I bet the spike is even more pronounced if you could separate Minneapolis's #s from the rest of the state.
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BDKJMU wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:23 pm
Gil Dobie wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:19 pm


Why is it the southern states getting hit. Minnesota had, and is still having large protest.
And Minnesota's #s have been going up since mid June.
I bet the spike is even more pronounced if you could separate Minneapolis's #s from the rest of the state.
We went from 20 to 30 deaths per day, to averaging less than 10, and that is going up since June?
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CID1990 wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:16 pm
UNI88 wrote:
That's funny because I :lol: at the shallow kool-aid drinkers who think that the riots were the only major cause of the increasing #s.
It obviously wasn't the only cause...

But the only major mass gatherings that correlate to the closely followed spike in cases were the BLM riots

Which means there’s more than “cow farts” evidence for it

But never fear! Our betters in high castles are already chastising us for getting haircuts again, so all is back to normal
Have you checked AZ's posts? He seems pretty convinced they were the only major cause and I don't doubt that there are more like him. I believe that the protests/riots were a major contributor to the increases. I also think that many people got complacent with phased reopening and stopped wearing masks and/or worrying about physical distancing and that was and continues to also be a major cause. This was aggravated by the fools who saw the protests on TV and decided since the protestors weren't following protocols then they didn't need to either. If the protesters had jumped off of cliffs would these lemmings have followed?

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Gil Dobie wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:32 pm
BDKJMU wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:23 pm

And Minnesota's #s have been going up since mid June.
I bet the spike is even more pronounced if you could separate Minneapolis's #s from the rest of the state.
We went from 20 to 30 deaths per day, to averaging less than 10, and that is going up since June?
Gil, can the numbers for Minnesota be broken down between the Cities and rest of the state?

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Gil Dobie wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:32 pm
BDKJMU wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:23 pm

And Minnesota's #s have been going up since mid June.
I bet the spike is even more pronounced if you could separate Minneapolis's #s from the rest of the state.
We went from 20 to 30 deaths per day, to averaging less than 10, and that is going up since June?
BDKJMU wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:19 pm
5/26 riots started. But even after they ended after 5/30, were still large demonstrations & protests continued.
6/19, the 7 day moving avg for MN bottomed out at 319 cases (World-o-meter)
7/17 the 7 day moving avg up to 607 cases.
That looks like they started to shoot up about 3 weeks after the protests. Well, we've heard about a 2-3 week lag time.
But that is for the whole state of MN. I'd like to see the numbers for Minneapolis.
Granted, Minnesota seems to have kept the older folks from catching it as much, so deaths still down, despite the younger protesters causing an increase in cases the last month.
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UNI88 wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:37 pm
Gil Dobie wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:32 pm


We went from 20 to 30 deaths per day, to averaging less than 10, and that is going up since June?
Gil, can the numbers for Minnesota be broken down between the Cities and rest of the state?
It might be broken down by county somewhere. Minneapolis has always had the highest numbers. St Paul also had the protests and is still having them. The interstate closing have primarily been St Paul.
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BDKJMU wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:49 pm
Gil Dobie wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:32 pm


We went from 20 to 30 deaths per day, to averaging less than 10, and that is going up since June?
BDKJMU wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:19 pm
5/26 riots started. But even after they ended after 5/30, were still large demonstrations & protests continued.
6/19, the 7 day moving avg for MN bottomed out at 319 cases (World-o-meter)
7/17 the 7 day moving avg up to 607 cases.
That looks like they started to shoot up about 3 weeks after the protests. Well, we've heard about a 2-3 week lag time.
But that is for the whole state of MN. I'd like to see the numbers for Minneapolis.
Granted, Minnesota seems to have kept the older folks from catching it as much, so deaths still down, despite the younger protesters causing an increase in cases the last month.
Protest started in May, not June, almost 2 month ago. Florida, Texas and California all opened up and the lag time for more cases shows. More people are out and about now and now wearing mask and not social distancing. It wasn't just the protest here. Many of the Minnesota protesters wore mask.
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UNI88 wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:36 pm
CID1990 wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:16 pm


It obviously wasn't the only cause...

But the only major mass gatherings that correlate to the closely followed spike in cases were the BLM riots

Which means there’s more than “cow farts” evidence for it

But never fear! Our betters in high castles are already chastising us for getting haircuts again, so all is back to normal
Have you checked AZ's posts? He seems pretty convinced they were the only major cause and I don't doubt that there are more like him. I believe that the protests/riots were a major contributor to the increases. I also think that many people got complacent with phased reopening and stopped wearing masks and/or worrying about physical distancing and that was and continues to also be a major cause. This was aggravated by the fools who saw the protests on TV and decided since the protestors weren't following protocols then they didn't need to either. If the protesters had jumped off of cliffs would these lemmings have followed?
This. Protests were hypocritical but to pin it on one single thing is ignorant. It’s American selfishness and politics. I have friends in the medical field who take unnecessary risks. And they’re the smart ones.
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Gil Dobie wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:11 pm
BDKJMU wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:49 pm


Granted, Minnesota seems to have kept the older folks from catching it as much, so deaths still down, despite the younger protesters causing an increase in cases the last month.
Protest started in May, not June, almost 2 month ago. Florida, Texas and California all opened up and the lag time for more cases shows. More people are out and about now and now wearing mask and not social distancing. It wasn't just the protest here. Many of the Minnesota protesters wore mask.
I never stated they started in June. I stated multiple post they started the end of May, about 1.75 months ago. There's also the 2-3 week lag time from for the spread to start showing up.
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BDKJMU wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:42 pm
Gil Dobie wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:11 pm


Protest started in May, not June, almost 2 month ago. Florida, Texas and California all opened up and the lag time for more cases shows. More people are out and about now and now wearing mask and not social distancing. It wasn't just the protest here. Many of the Minnesota protesters wore mask.
I never stated they started in June. I stated multiple post they started the end of May, about 1.75 months ago. There's also the 2-3 week lag time from for the spread to start showing up.
Combined with people getting out and about and a lot more testing now too, than prior to the protest, I believe the protest rise is minimal compared to people getting out more.
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Gil Dobie wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:16 pm
BDKJMU wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:42 pm

I never stated they started in June. I stated multiple post they started the end of May, about 1.75 months ago. There's also the 2-3 week lag time from for the spread to start showing up.
Combined with people getting out and about and a lot more testing now too, than prior to the protest, I believe the protest rise is minimal compared to people getting out more.
Nope. But that’s certainly what they want you to think.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:53 pm
Gil Dobie wrote:
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Combined with people getting out and about and a lot more testing now too, than prior to the protest, I believe the protest rise is minimal compared to people getting out more.
Nope. But that’s certainly what they want you to think.
Who are they? I don't listen to the Karen's or Kellyannes.
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Gil Dobie wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:19 pm
CID1990 wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:16 pm


It obviously was t the only cause...

But the only major mass gatherings that correlate to the closely followed spike in cases were the BLM riots

Which means there’s more than “cow farts” evidence for it

But never fear! Our betters in high castles are already chastising us for getting haircuts again, so all is back to normal
Why is it the southern states getting hit. Minnesota had, and is still having large protest.
You dont think there were and still are protests happening in the South? :?

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Baldy wrote:
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Why is it the southern states getting hit. Minnesota had, and is still having large protest.
You dont think there were and still are protests happening in the South? :?
Atlanta and Dallas are dealing with daily shenanigans and those are just the ones I know of firsthand.


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Baldy wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:17 am
Gil Dobie wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:19 pm


Why is it the southern states getting hit. Minnesota had, and is still having large protest.
You dont think there were and still are protests happening in the South? :?

The are still going on all over the country. Why does the south have the biggest spread?
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Gil Dobie wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:05 pm
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Nope. But that’s certainly what they want you to think.
Who are they? I don't listen to the Karen's or Kellyannes.
Whoever you’re getting your erroneous information from.
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Gil Dobie wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:00 am
Baldy wrote:
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You dont think there were and still are protests happening in the South? :?

The are still going on all over the country. Why does the south have the biggest spread?
In texas it’s tied to the influx of cases coming across the border, along with the wave caused by the riots in early/mid June.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:01 am
Gil Dobie wrote:
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The are still going on all over the country. Why does the south have the biggest spread?
In texas it’s tied to the influx of cases coming across the border, along with the wave caused by the riots in early/mid June.
Who are you getting your info from?
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It's not the riots or protests or whatever you want to call them. It's not even the Republican Governors refusing to deal with reality. It's Trump screwing up in the very beginning by thinking he could use an approach previously known to be ineffective (the travel restriction) instead of gearing up to tamp the early brush fires out like South Korea did. Trump facilitated a circumstance allowing things to get out of control. Didn't have to be this way.
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https://www.aol.com/article/news/2020/0 ... /24566432/
Trump flails in interview with Wallace, citing false and nonexistent data on COVID-19
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JohnStOnge wrote:
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https://www.aol.com/article/news/2020/0 ... /24566432/
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Gil Dobie wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:00 am
Baldy wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:17 am

You dont think there were and still are protests happening in the South? :?

The are still going on all over the country. Why does the south have the biggest spread?
Maybe because demographically, the ones who are the most vulnerable are the ones who are doing the most protesting in the South.

EDIT: The same reason why 25% of the cases in Maine are black while blacks only make up 2% of Maine's population.
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