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Hey 93...You may be able to bring the BumpStock out of hiding soon

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BATF is squirming in court, having been caught issuing an illegal law...Administrative agencies of the Executive cannot issue laws that are counter to the Legislative Branch...

Their recent Bump-Stock ban law is going to fall...but right now, it’s fun watching an Executive Branch agency take heat for trying to do Legislative stuff...

I know, they did it because Trump ordered them to do it...but as we know from lots of case law, “I was just following orders” isn’t a defense for doing illegal stuff...Now, it’s up to the 10th Circuit Court to strike the final blow...
This case is not about whether gun control is a good idea. Rather, Mr. Aposhian’s appeal raises key issues about how an agency may create such a ban—that is, whether agency regulations may contradict a statute passed by Congress. The appeal also challenges the notion that a mere interpretive rule can bind third parties, such as owners of bump stocks.

“The bump stock rule made it a new federal crime to own a bump stock, even one purchased with ATF’s prior permission. ATF knows it didn’t have the authority to enact such a law. Instead of defending the rule, ATF now pretends the ban is just a recommendation for the public. NCLA is confident the court will see through ATF’s games and strike down this invalid rule.” —Caleb Kruckenberg, Litigation Counsel

“ATF is caught between a rock and a hard place. The agency lacks legal authority to issue a so-called legislative rule, but a mere interpretive rule is not legally allowed to bind any third parties outside the government. By ordering half a million bump stock owners to surrender their devices—or face prosecution—ATF has acted in a completely unconstitutional fashion. It is high time for the federal courts to put a stop to this regulatory nonsense.”
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I would love to see this as the beginning of the end of the Administrative State...laws should only come from Congress...make them do their job...
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What bumpstock.... :coffee:
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I actually sold mine to the state (cue the tomatoes). I was never going to use it again after perfecting my from-the-shoulder bump firing with my O-PAP anyway.
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Didn't work on my 12 gauge pump. :oops:
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Gil Dobie wrote:Didn't work on my 12 gauge pump. :oops:
You need to pump faster.
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93henfan wrote:I actually sold mine to the state (cue the tomatoes). I was never going to use it again after perfecting my from-the-shoulder bump firing with my O-PAP anyway.
Make sure you properly clean your O-PAP. It can develop all sorts of bacteria if you don't.

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Winterborn wrote:What bumpstock.... :coffee:
This. :nod: :nod:
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mainejeff2 wrote:How many hours a day do you Conks obsess about guns?

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Zero. How many hours a day do you donks obsess about conks obsessing about guns?

A fuckton. :nod:
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Not even close. 13-3.
Federal court strikes down Trump-era bump stock ban
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AZGrizFan wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:59 pm
Winterborn wrote:What bumpstock.... :coffee:
This. :nod: :nod:
The simple solution is to move all semi-auto guns that can hold more than six rounds into the same BATF category as machine guns. :coffee:

No second amendment issues, better screening of applicants, average citizens can still carry plenty of firepower without going through the more rigorous background chieck if they choose. Win/win situation and the wackadoodles are kept further away from the most popular mass-shooting models. :thumb:
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houndawg wrote: Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:59 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:59 pm

This. :nod: :nod:
The simple solution is to move all semi-auto guns that can hold more than six rounds into the same BATF category as machine guns. :coffee:

No second amendment issues, better screening of applicants, average citizens can still carry plenty of firepower without going through the more rigorous background chieck if they choose. Win/win situation and the wackadoodles are kept further away from the most popular mass-shooting models. :thumb:
It would have to be passed by Congress, and Congress wouldn’t ever pass that, because the donks would need to control the House, 60 votes in the Senate, and the WH.

And if the ATF even tried something as lunatic as that on their own, most of the 115 million law abiding gun owners would give the finger to the ATF even before it got to SCOTUS and they struck it down. :nod:
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BDKJMU wrote: Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:23 am
houndawg wrote: Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:59 am
The simple solution is to move all semi-auto guns that can hold more than six rounds into the same BATF category as machine guns. :coffee:

No second amendment issues, better screening of applicants, average citizens can still carry plenty of firepower without going through the more rigorous background chieck if they choose. Win/win situation and the wackadoodles are kept further away from the most popular mass-shooting models. :thumb:
It would have to be passed by Congress, and Congress wouldn’t ever pass that, because the donks would need to control the House, 60 votes in the Senate, and the WH.

And if the ATF even tried something as lunatic as that on their own, most of the 115 million law abiding gun owners would give the finger to the ATF even before it got to SCOTUS and they struck it down. :nod:
Well, you can't go shooting geese with more than three rounds in your gun. Surely you agree that school kids deserve as much sporting chance as geese? :?
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houndawg wrote: Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:37 am
BDKJMU wrote: Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:23 am
It would have to be passed by Congress, and Congress wouldn’t ever pass that, because the donks would need to control the House, 60 votes in the Senate, and the WH.

And if the ATF even tried something as lunatic as that on their own, most of the 115 million law abiding gun owners would give the finger to the ATF even before it got to SCOTUS and they struck it down. :nod:
Well, you can't go shooting geese with more than three rounds in your gun. Surely you agree that school kids deserve as much sporting chance as geese? :?
I’ll agree with you…as soon as you can find a reference to hunting in the Constitution…
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houndawg wrote: Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:37 am Well, you can't go shooting geese with more than three rounds in your gun. Surely you agree that school kids deserve as much sporting chance as geese? :?
I’ll agree with you…as soon as you can find a reference to hunting in the Constitution…
It’s right next to the part in the Constitution that says “muskets.”


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houndawg wrote: Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:59 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:59 pm

This. :nod: :nod:
The simple solution is to move all semi-auto guns that can hold more than six rounds into the same BATF category as machine guns. :coffee:

No second amendment issues, better screening of applicants, average citizens can still carry plenty of firepower without going through the more rigorous background chieck if they choose. Win/win situation and the wackadoodles are kept further away from the most popular mass-shooting models. :thumb:
Agreed
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dbackjon wrote: Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:19 pm
houndawg wrote: Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:59 am

The simple solution is to move all semi-auto guns that can hold more than six rounds into the same BATF category as machine guns. :coffee:

No second amendment issues, better screening of applicants, average citizens can still carry plenty of firepower without going through the more rigorous background chieck if they choose. Win/win situation and the wackadoodles are kept further away from the most popular mass-shooting models. :thumb:
Agreed
Simpler solution. Just eliminate the ATF. Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be a convenience store, not a govt agency.
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CID1990 wrote: Sat Jan 07, 2023 3:15 pm
Col Hogan wrote: I’ll agree with you…as soon as you can find a reference to hunting in the Constitution…
It’s right next to the part in the Constitution that says “muskets.”


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