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Whoops!

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:16 am
by andy7171
Shocking that dback hasn't blamed Trump for the illegal that stalked and murdered that Mollie girl in Iowa. He hasn't built the wall yet! Treasonous LIAR!!!!!

Re: Whoops!

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:21 am
by 93henfan
andy7171 wrote:Shocking that dback hasn't blamed Trump for the illegal that stalked and murdered that Mollie girl in Iowa. He hasn't built the wall yet! Treasonous LIAR!!!!!
Cult 45!

Re: Whoops!

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:17 am
by Chizzang
My sisters Rules for life:
She lives in Montana and jogs in the woods alone like this Molly

If you're going to jog in the woods / 2 rules

1) Get a dog with some substance to him and attitude
2) Carry a 4 inch shank

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Re: Whoops!

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:22 am
by dbackjon
Nah, I can just blame the GOP Politician Farmer who employed him for 4 years

What about Shannan Watts are her kids, murdered by her white husband?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 01451.html

I guess the right doesn't care about murder unless an illegal commits it...

Re: Whoops!

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:56 am
by SeattleGriz
dbackjon wrote:Nah, I can just blame the GOP Politician Farmer who employed him for 4 years

What about Shannan Watts are her kids, murdered by her white husband?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 01451.html

I guess the right doesn't care about murder unless an illegal commits it...
Except that the immigrant passed E-verify.

Re: Whoops!

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 11:01 am
by Gil Dobie
SeattleGriz wrote:
dbackjon wrote:Nah, I can just blame the GOP Politician Farmer who employed him for 4 years

What about Shannan Watts are her kids, murdered by her white husband?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 01451.html

I guess the right doesn't care about murder unless an illegal commits it...
Except that the immigrant passed E-verify.
Must be more than one Cristian Riveria's out there.

Re: Whoops!

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 11:21 am
by css75
Solution: Fine the people who hire them a very large sum of money.


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Re: Whoops!

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 11:24 am
by Gil Dobie
css75 wrote:Solution: Fine the people who hire them a very large sum of money.


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Local nursery company hire's a bunch every spring, then they get rounded up in the fall and get a free ride home. Per a foreman with the company.

Re: Whoops!

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 11:25 am
by HI54UNI
SeattleGriz wrote:
dbackjon wrote:Nah, I can just blame the GOP Politician Farmer who employed him for 4 years

What about Shannan Watts are her kids, murdered by her white husband?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 01451.html

I guess the right doesn't care about murder unless an illegal commits it...
Except that the immigrant passed E-verify.
Now saying that he had a fake ID. I'm sure the farmer had no idea that it was a fake. :roll:

Re: RE: Re: Whoops!

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 2:16 pm
by SeattleGriz
HI54UNI wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:
Except that the immigrant passed E-verify.
Now saying that he had a fake ID. I'm sure the farmer had no idea that it was a fake. :roll:
Story just gets weirder by the minute.

This link says he was here legally and the farm isn't part of E- verify.

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story ... 064567002/

Re: Whoops!

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 2:52 pm
by 89Hen
So you're saying the media and public are falling all over themselves in every direction trying to scoop the story before even half the facts are confirmed?? No!! Can't be! Never happens! :coffee:

Re: Whoops!

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 2:57 pm
by andy7171
dbackjon wrote:Nah, I can just blame the GOP Politician Farmer who employed him for 4 years

What about Shannan Watts are her kids, murdered by her white husband?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 01451.html

I guess the right doesn't care about murder unless an illegal commits it...
Well one murder could have been prevented. Lunatics are everywhere and murderers are part of life. In this one case, had we enforced laws, Mollie would still be alive.


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Re: RE: Re: Whoops!

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:04 pm
by SeattleGriz
89Hen wrote:So you're saying the media and public are falling all over themselves in every direction trying to scoop the story before even half the facts are confirmed?? No!! Can't be! Never happens! :coffee:
Lol! So true.

Re: Whoops!

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:39 pm
by houndawg
andy7171 wrote:
dbackjon wrote:Nah, I can just blame the GOP Politician Farmer who employed him for 4 years

What about Shannan Watts are her kids, murdered by her white husband?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 01451.html

I guess the right doesn't care about murder unless an illegal commits it...
Well one murder could have been prevented. Lunatics are everywhere and murderers are part of life. In this one case, had we enforced laws, Mollie would still be alive.


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Now they're saying he was here legally

Re: RE: Re: Whoops!

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:41 pm
by SeattleGriz
houndawg wrote:
andy7171 wrote: Well one murder could have been prevented. Lunatics are everywhere and murderers are part of life. In this one case, had we enforced laws, Mollie would still be alive.


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Now they're saying he was here legally
Every life matters, and that is enough to bring about change.

Did I get that one right? Isn't that how that line is supposed to work?

Re: Whoops!

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:26 pm
by kalm
css75 wrote:Solution: Fine the people who hire them a very large sum of money.


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Fines are just another cost of doing business (ask Wall Street). Shackles, jail, and parole are more effective.

Re: RE: Re: Whoops!

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:33 pm
by HI54UNI
SeattleGriz wrote:
HI54UNI wrote:
Now saying that he had a fake ID. I'm sure the farmer had no idea that it was a fake. :roll:
Story just gets weirder by the minute.

This link says he was here legally and the farm isn't part of E- verify.

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story ... 064567002/
Story changing again.

https://globegazette.com/news/iowa/upda ... op-story-1

Re: Whoops!

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:47 pm
by css75
kalm wrote:
css75 wrote:Solution: Fine the people who hire them a very large sum of money.


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Fines are just another cost of doing business (ask Wall Street). Shackles, jail, and parole are more effective.

Kalm, you are right, I stand corrected.


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Re: Whoops!

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:08 pm
by BDKJMU
css75 wrote:
kalm wrote: Fines are just another cost of doing business (ask Wall Street). Shackles, jail, and parole are more effective.
Kalm, you are right, I stand corrected.
Not if the fines are high enough.

"First offenders can be fined $250-$2,000 per illegal employee.
For a second offense, the fine is $2,000-$5,000 per illegal employee.
Three or more offenses can cost an employer $3000-$10,000 per illegal employee. A pattern of knowingly employing illegal immigrants can mean extra fines and up to six months in jail for an employer."
https://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/ ... rants.html

Now if you made it:
-1st offense say $50,000-$100,000 per illegal
-2nd offense $100,000-$200,000 per illegal
-3rd offense $200,000-$500,000
A pattern of knowingly employing illegal immigrants can mean extra fines and up to 1 year in jail for an employer.
And paired that with an increase in workplace enforcement/raids, that would be effective. Those level fines could literally bankrupt businesses that hired illegals. It would be such a financial risk that far fewer would do it, and many businesses that currently employ illegals would instead pay more for legal labor..

Re: Whoops!

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:26 pm
by SDHornet
Fine and jail employers of illegals. Problem solved.

Tragic event no matter what spin you want to believe, but for an ironic twist of fate the victim was one of the SJW types: probably also an open border advocate to boot.


Carry on.

Re: Whoops!

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:36 pm
by BDKJMU
SDHornet wrote:Fine and jail employers of illegals. Problem solved.

Tragic event no matter what spin you want to believe, but for an ironic twist of fate the victim was one of the SJW types: probably also an open border advocate to boot.


Carry on.
Yep. The worst types of white people (after violent criminals) are liberal, self loathing whites who hate their own race..

Re: Whoops!

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:51 am
by ALPHAGRIZ1
SDHornet wrote:Fine and jail employers of illegals. Problem solved.

Tragic event no matter what spin you want to believe, but for an ironic twist of fate the victim was one of the SJW types: probably also an open border advocate to boot.


Carry on.
I hope she was an open border advocate they deserve to be separated from their families forever.

Re: RE: Re: Whoops!

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:19 pm
by houndawg
SeattleGriz wrote:
houndawg wrote:
Now they're saying he was here legally
Every life matters, and that is enough to bring about change.

Did I get that one right? Isn't that how that line is supposed to work?
Should the Republican farmer who was employing him be charged too?

Re: Whoops!

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 3:29 pm
by Chizzang
"roughly half of the nation's 1.4 million field workers (47 percent, or 685,000 workers) are undocumented immigrants. And that estimate, from the Labor Department, is a conservative one with labor experts citing far higher percentages..."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... 075320002/

farmers, ranchers, and other business owners who rely on undocumented immigrants say passing an E-Verify bill would cripple their industries. Already struggling to recruit enough Americans to do the back-breaking field work, and operating under the constant threat of raids by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, they say implementing E-Verify with no other changes to the immigration system would put untold numbers of companies out of business.

Re: Whoops!

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 4:01 pm
by ALPHAGRIZ1
Then cripple them, enforce the fucking laws on the books or change them.

Fuck the crybaby welfare farmers

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