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kalm wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:16 pm
UNI88 wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 11:45 am
Religious beliefs ≠ political beliefs.

How is mocking someone's religious beliefs different than mocking someone's race, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, etc? And before you give me religious beliefs are a choice argument, isn't religion a protected class deserving of the same protections?

I'm not above mocking religious figures such as Jerry Falwell Jr but I mock them for their actions, greed and hypocrisy not because they're religious. Just like I mock Al Sharpton not because he's African American but because of what he says and does.

Sidenote: let's not forget about Bernsen in LA Law.
Religion often equates to political beliefs. Sorbo is a very public figure and just like athletes in the limelight, puts himself out there. No rocks were uncovered to discover his politics. And let’s not pretend the religious right doesn’t have a ton of political influence.

Unless you truly believe his politics are separate from his faith…
Faith can influence politics but it doesn't always.

Mitt Romney is a Mormon. Mormons tend to be very conservative. Illiberals hate Mormons but they give Romney a pass. Why? More importantly, why do you assume that all evangelicals are worthy of mockery.

FYI - at some point in the future, I'm going to mock evangelicals and my posts on this thread are going to bite me in the ass. I'm calling it now.
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UNI88 wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:25 pm
kalm wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:16 pm

Religion often equates to political beliefs. Sorbo is a very public figure and just like athletes in the limelight, puts himself out there. No rocks were uncovered to discover his politics. And let’s not pretend the religious right doesn’t have a ton of political influence.

Unless you truly believe his politics are separate from his faith…
Faith can influence politics but it doesn't always.

Mitt Romney is a Mormon. Mormons tend to be very conservative. Illiberals hate Mormons but they give Romney a pass. Why? More importantly, why do you assume that all evangelicals are worthy of mockery.

FYI - at some point in the future, I'm going to mock evangelicals and my posts on this thread are going to bite me in the ass. I'm calling it now.
1). I don’t hate Mormons or evangelicals.

2). They are no less undeserving of mockery than anyone else (even if I have committed to no longer doing it here).

3). You probably already have. :)
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kalm wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:22 pm
UNI88 wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:25 pm
Faith can influence politics but it doesn't always.

Mitt Romney is a Mormon. Mormons tend to be very conservative. Illiberals hate Mormons but they give Romney a pass. Why? More importantly, why do you assume that all evangelicals are worthy of mockery.

FYI - at some point in the future, I'm going to mock evangelicals and my posts on this thread are going to bite me in the ass. I'm calling it now.
1). I don’t hate Mormons or evangelicals.

2). They are no less undeserving of mockery than anyone else (even if I have committed to no longer doing it here).

3). You probably already have. :)
And students at Dalhart HS don't hate African Americans ...

What the heck does "no less undeserving" mean? Are the players at River Road HS "no less undeserving of mockery than anyone else"?

:coffee:
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UNI88 wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 5:35 pm
kalm wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:22 pm

1). I don’t hate Mormons or evangelicals.

2). They are no less undeserving of mockery than anyone else (even if I have committed to no longer doing it here).

3). You probably already have. :)
And students at Dalhart HS don't hate African Americans ...

What the heck does "no less undeserving" mean? Are the players at River Road HS "no less undeserving of mockery than anyone else"?

:coffee:
I don’t know those two high schools.

There is nothing about Christianity that makes it less deserving of mockery than Islam, Buddhism, etc.

If any of the above or other religions or philosophies make you a better person, well then god bless.
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kalm wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 7:06 pm
UNI88 wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 5:35 pm

And students at Dalhart HS don't hate African Americans ...

What the heck does "no less undeserving" mean? Are the players at River Road HS "no less undeserving of mockery than anyone else"?

:coffee:
I don’t know those two high schools.

There is nothing about Christianity that makes it less deserving of mockery than Islam, Buddhism, etc.

If any of the above or other religions or philosophies make you a better person, well then god bless.
As a Christian, Christianity deserves mockery. Got way too many goofballs and ill informed.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:08 am
kalm wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 7:06 pm
I don’t know those two high schools.

There is nothing about Christianity that makes it less deserving of mockery than Islam, Buddhism, etc.

If any of the above or other religions or philosophies make you a better person, well then god bless.
As a Christian, Christianity deserves mockery. Got way too many goofballs and ill informed.
Especially those ill informed, goofball evangelicals who voted for a serial philanderer, liar and cheat who has 5 children with 3 different women and paid off a porn star to cover up an affair.
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:54 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:08 am

As a Christian, Christianity deserves mockery. Got way too many goofballs and ill informed.
Especially those ill informed, goofball evangelicals who voted for a serial philanderer, liar and cheat who has 5 children with 3 different women and paid off a porn star to cover up an affair.
:rofl: Just can't let it go.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:58 am
UNI88 wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:54 am
Especially those ill informed, goofball evangelicals who voted for a serial philanderer, liar and cheat who has 5 children with 3 different women and paid off a porn star to cover up an affair.
:rofl: Just can't let it go.
Am I wrong about any of it?

And is there not a conflict between evangelicals' religious beliefs and their political support for someone like that?
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kalm wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 7:06 pm
UNI88 wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 5:35 pm

And students at Dalhart HS don't hate African Americans ...

What the heck does "no less undeserving" mean? Are the players at River Road HS "no less undeserving of mockery than anyone else"?

:coffee:
I don’t know those two high schools.

There is nothing about Christianity that makes it less deserving of mockery than Islam, Buddhism, etc.

If any of the above or other religions or philosophies make you a better person, well then god bless.
You forgot the religion of governmentism. Faith in the government has its own self-righteous true believers who are deserving of mockery.

Google Dalhart and River Road High Schools.
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:09 am
kalm wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 7:06 pm

I don’t know those two high schools.

There is nothing about Christianity that makes it less deserving of mockery than Islam, Buddhism, etc.

If any of the above or other religions or philosophies make you a better person, well then god bless.
You forgot the religion of governmentism. Faith in the government has its own self-righteous true believers who are deserving of mockery.

Google Dalhart and River Road High Schools.
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:02 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:58 am

:rofl: Just can't let it go.
Am I wrong about any of it?

And is there not a conflict between evangelicals' religious beliefs and their political support for someone like that?
You can't earn your way into Heaven. Choosing Hillary over Trump does nothing.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:16 am
UNI88 wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:02 am

Am I wrong about any of it?

And is there not a conflict between evangelicals' religious beliefs and their political support for someone like that?
You can't earn your way into Heaven. Choosing Hillary over Trump does nothing.
So trump is going to hell. :coffee:

I chose neither of those two.
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kalm wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:15 am
UNI88 wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:09 am
You forgot the religion of governmentism. Faith in the government has its own self-righteous true believers who are deserving of mockery.

Google Dalhart and River Road High Schools.
Government is not a religion.
Government itself is not a religion but belief in the power of government can be. A leftist's belief in the power of government is just as strong as an evangelical's belief in the power of god.
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:23 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:16 am

You can't earn your way into Heaven. Choosing Hillary over Trump does nothing.
So trump is going to hell. :coffee:

I chose neither of those two.
I have no clue of Trump's "heaven status", but regardless, believing you can work your way into Heaven is missing the point of the Old Testament. This is where Cleets always stumbled.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:27 am
UNI88 wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:23 am
So trump is going to hell. :coffee:

I chose neither of those two.
I have no clue of Trump's "heaven status", but regardless, believing you can work your way into Heaven is missing the point of the Old Testament. This is where Cleets always stumbled.
Isn't that only true if what humans wrote in the Old Testament is accurate?

What does the New Testament say? What if Siddhartha Gautama was right?
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:32 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:27 am

I have no clue of Trump's "heaven status", but regardless, believing you can work your way into Heaven is missing the point of the Old Testament. This is where Cleets always stumbled.
Isn't that only true if what humans wrote in the Old Testament is accurate?

What does the New Testament say? What if Siddhartha Gautama was right?
To summarize, the Old Testament showed how many times man and God entered into covenants in which if man followed the laws, they could be in the presence of God. Man could never fulfill those laws because of our nature.

So, God sent us Jesus to fulfill all the requirements man couldn't. So getting into Heaven is as simple as understanding you'll make mistakes your whole life, but that Jesus has absolved us through His sacrifice and you accept that. Straight up gift.

So, working your way into Heaven doesn't work. It's Grace that gets you in.

Now should any person hang out with another who doesn't live a wholesome life? None of us meet that definition, but one needs to be careful about a little bit of yeast working it's way through the dough.
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:26 am
kalm wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:15 am

Government is not a religion.
Government itself is not a religion but belief in the power of government can be. A leftist's belief in the power of government is just as strong as an evangelical's belief in the power of god.
What is this belief in the power of government you speak of?

Isn’t government supposed to be “we the people”?
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kalm wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 12:01 pm
UNI88 wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:26 am

Government itself is not a religion but belief in the power of government can be. A leftist's belief in the power of government is just as strong as an evangelical's belief in the power of god.
What is this belief in the power of government you speak of?

Isn’t government supposed to be “we the people”?
"we the people" :rofl:

How much wealth have Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Bernie Sanders, etc. built up while supposedly serving the public interest? donald trump's problem was that he wanted too big of a piece of the pie and they didn't want to share.
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:11 pm
kalm wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 12:01 pm

What is this belief in the power of government you speak of?

Isn’t government supposed to be “we the people”?
"we the people" :rofl:

How much wealth have Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Bernie Sanders, etc. built up while supposedly serving the public interest? donald trump's problem was that he wanted too big of a piece of the pie and they didn't want to share.
I said supposed to. It’s in our founding documents. Too many have sadly forgotten. :ohno:

No excuse while I go spend a pittance to have correspondence magically delivered 100’s of miles away in short amount of time.
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kalm wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:20 pm
UNI88 wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:11 pm
"we the people" :rofl:

How much wealth have Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Bernie Sanders, etc. built up while supposedly serving the public interest? donald trump's problem was that he wanted too big of a piece of the pie and they didn't want to share.
I said supposed to. It’s in our founding documents. Too many have sadly forgotten. :ohno:

No excuse while I go spend a pittance to have correspondence magically delivered 100’s of miles away in short amount of time.
The failure to deliver on the "supposed to" is a big reason why I don't have faith in the church of big government.
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:34 pm
kalm wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:20 pm

I said supposed to. It’s in our founding documents. Too many have sadly forgotten. :ohno:

No excuse while I go spend a pittance to have correspondence magically delivered 100’s of miles away in short amount of time.
The failure to deliver on the "supposed to" is a big reason why I don't have faith in the church of big government.
That applies to all of us. But there is no church of big government.
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kalm wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:55 pm
UNI88 wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:34 pm
The failure to deliver on the "supposed to" is a big reason why I don't have faith in the church of big government.
That applies to all of us. But there is no church of big government.
It isn't a church? It must be a cult then. The cult of big government. Prominent members: Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, kalm, Trip, Houndie, and more.
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 2:18 pm
kalm wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:55 pm

That applies to all of us. But there is no church of big government.
It isn't a church? It must be a cult then. The cult of big government. Prominent members: Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, kalm, Trip, Houndie, and more.
No. It’s not a church. Big government is bi-partisan and serves big money and big corporations at the expense of we the people.
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kalm wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:21 pm
UNI88 wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 2:18 pm
It isn't a church? It must be a cult then. The cult of big government. Prominent members: Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, kalm, Trip, Houndie, and more.
No. It’s not a church. Big government is bi-partisan and serves big money and big corporations at the expense of we the people.
That's a different church with a similar name to the cult. The church is exactly what you describe and Biden is/was a Cardinal. The cult is one where the sheep, oops followers, don't trust the market but believe they can trust the government to provide solutions to the problems that the nation faces. They push for more government and denigrate capitalists and the market. Their faith in their god (the government) and self-righteous dedication to the cause are similar to evangelicals. They frequently attempt to disguise their faith in their god by saying they are working for the good of the people. Cult leaders are people like Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, and AOChe. Capisce?
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:38 pm
kalm wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:21 pm

No. It’s not a church. Big government is bi-partisan and serves big money and big corporations at the expense of we the people.
That's a different church with a similar name to the cult. The church is exactly what you describe and Biden is/was a Cardinal. The cult is one where the sheep, oops followers, don't trust the market but believe they can trust the government to provide solutions to the problems that the nation faces. They push for more government and denigrate capitalists and the market. Their faith in their god (the government) and self-righteous dedication to the cause are similar to evangelicals. They frequently attempt to disguise their faith in their god by saying they are working for the good of the people. Cult leaders are people like Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, and AOChe. Capisce?
What about the right wing parishioners whose manipulation also shows a mistrust of the market? Mr. Centrist?
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