kalm wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2024 5:59 am
BDKJMU wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:47 am
200k single adults? Biden has let in how many illegals overall (encounters-removed/deported + estimated gotaways)? 6 million, 7 million?
Encounters FY 2020 400k
Encounters FY 2023 2.4 million.
Yes. Encounters increased. That’s not necessarily Biden’s fault nor the entire story is it?
Yes it is Bidens fault. They started to spike shortly after Biden got into office. That wasn’t a coincidence.
kalm wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2024 5:59 am If Biden had adopted Trump ‘s policies as you keep suggesting, more would have been allowed to stay.
Wrong. If had lept Trump’s policies, WAY less would be allowed to stay because would have had WAY less encounters. From the CATO link you provided:
During the Trump administration, DHS made 1.4 million arrests—what it calls “encounters”—in fiscal years 2019 and 2020 (24 months). Of those people arrested, only 47 percent were removed as of December 31, 2021, which includes people arrested by Trump and removed by Biden, and 52 percent were released into the United States.
Under Biden, DHS made over 5 million arrests in its first 26.3 months, and it removed nearly 2.6 million—51 percent—while releasing only 49 percent. In other words, the Trump DHS removed a minority of those arrested while the Biden DHS removed a majority. Biden managed to increase the removal share while also increasing the total removals by a factor of 3.5.
https://www.cato.org/blog/new-data-show ... rump-biden
So according to the Cato link, Trump’s last 2 full fiscal years cut loose about 730k (52% of 1.4 million), an avg of about 31k a month. Biden’s 1st 26.3 months cut loose 2.45 million (49% of 5 million), an avg of over 93k a month. So Biden is cutting loose 3x per month than Trump comparing those 2 periods. And its way worse if you compare just FY 2020, Trump’s last full year (400k border encounters/458k nationwide)
https://www.hstoday.us/subject-matter-a ... 0in%20FY19.
to FY 2023 (worst year under Biden, CATO doesn’t include 2nd half of). 2.4 miillion border encounters/3.2 million nationwide.
https://homeland.house.gov/2023/10/26/f ... e%20FY2021.
So 2023/Biden had 6x the encounters at border, 7x nationwide compared to 2020/Trump.
kalm wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2024 5:59 am And since you refuse to supply arguments other than what MAGA Mike says, here’s a Dem response for your reading pleasure that suggest additional causes…
FALSE: Biden inherited the most secure border in decades.
The Trump administration cut off legal pathways to citizenship, leaving would-be migrants with fewer lawful methods of entering the country.
Good. They made it harder for illegals to enter the country, including so called refugees and so called asylees who abuse the US’s lax asylum sytstem.
-Anyone NON Mexican who transits through Mexico has zero right to claim asylum in the US. They should be claiming asylum in the Mexico or the 1st eligible country they transit through according to international law.
-Economic reasons (being from a dirt poor, shithole country) isn’t grounds fir claiming asylum either), yet Biden is letting most of them do it, including by refusing to reinstate Remain In Mexico.
They cut funding to Central American countries in 2019 as they splurged on an ineffective, costly wall
Good- Trump lessened the amount of US tax dollars going to other countries.
And wrong. The people who actually know what they’re talking about, the rank amd file Border Patrol agents, say a wall is effective.
Democrats have proposed solutions to fix the immigration system in a reasonable, humane way. And time and again, Republicans have opposed these efforts at every turn.
Yeah, the current bill proposes a system letting in 5,000 illegals A DAY before the border is shut down doesn’t sound like much of a solution.
In fact, between December 2022 and January 2023, the Biden-Harris administration halved the number of encounters at the border and reduced the number of Cuban, Venezuelan, Nicaraguan, and Haitian migrants by 97 percent.
Yeah, after the numbers had drastically spiked in the previous months. And of course most of these illegals the Biden admin cut loose into the interior. All of them besides the Cubans should have been Remain In Mexico.
The FY23 government funding package that President Biden signed into law provided Border Patrol with $7.153 billion — a 17 percent increase from the year before. Additionally, the funding package provided $65 million for 300 new Border Patrol agents, $60 million for 125 new personnel at points of entry; and $230 million for technology like autonomous surveillance towers.
House Republicans voted against this historic funding.
So illegals could be processed and released even faster into the country. It doesn’t matter if you had a million border patrol agents if people are allowed to turn themselves into the Border Patrol, claim asylum, and most be cut loose into the interior with an NTA years down the road for an asylum hearing that most don’t show for. All because Biden refuses to reinstate Remain In Mexico.