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Is the media promoting a contrived conflict? Society is definitely polarized.

Eight steps on how to create a socialist state.

1.Healthcare– Control healthcare and you control the people.
2.Poverty – Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.
3.Debt – Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.
4.Gun Control– Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.
5.Welfare – Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income).
6.Education – Take control of what people read and listen to – take control of what children learn in school.
7.Religion – Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools
8.Class Warfare – Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.

2008 and 12 called, Gil...they want their right wing nut talking points back...

Psssttttt ...
Robert Zimmerman would like a word with you ...


list of Saul Alinsky's rules for 'How to Create a Social State' wasn't written by him at all

kalm wrote:2008 and 12 called, Gil...they want their right wing nut talking points back...

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I don't listen to anything by the "Usefull Idiot" Maher. He probably has his own spin to make conservatives look stupid, and somehow will get racism into the conversation.

Aho Old Guy wrote:
Psssttttt ...
Robert Zimmerman would like a word with you ...


list of Saul Alinsky's rules for 'How to Create a Social State' wasn't written by him at all

Nice picture, but you didn't get the reading comprehension part.

Did you miss the part of my post where it was taken from Lenin?

Gil Dobie wrote:

kalm wrote:2008 and 12 called, Gil...they want their right wing nut talking points back...

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I don't listen to anything by the "Usefull Idiot" Maher. He probably has his own spin to make conservatives look stupid, and somehow will get racism into the conversation.

I don't expect you to like him, but this clip my help you understand the useful idiocy of tying Alinaky nots...especially at this point.

Hey Gil, did you know that Bush's great grandpa fraternized with Nazis!!!

kalm wrote:

Gil Dobie wrote:
I don't listen to anything by the "Usefull Idiot" Maher. He probably has his own spin to make conservatives look stupid, and somehow will get racism into the conversation.

I don't expect you to like him, but this clip my help you understand the useful idiocy of tying Alinaky nots...especially at this point.

Hey Gil, did you know that Bush's great grandpa fraternized with Nazis!!!

I didn't say I didn't like Maher, but I don't like him. He's on my list with a lot of poly tics like Hannity, Rush, Moore, etc. I said I wouldn't waste my time, because i already know his spin.

Didn't vote for Bush either or like him in the end. Obama just continued his policy.

Look at the list and see if anything looks familiar with the tide of what is going. There is definitely a lean in that direction at the present time.

Gil Dobie wrote:

kalm wrote:
I don't expect you to like him, but this clip my help you understand the useful idiocy of tying Alinaky nots...especially at this point.

Hey Gil, did you know that Bush's great grandpa fraternized with Nazis!!!

I didn't say I didn't like Maher, but I don't like him. He's on my list with a lot of poly tics like Hannity, Rush, Moore, etc. I said I wouldn't waste my time, because i already know his spin.

Didn't vote for Bush either or like him in the end. Obama just continued his policy.

Look at the list and see if anything looks familiar with the tide of what is going. There is definitely a lean in that direction at the present time.

I looked at the list and it's mostly a bunch of meh. For example...Clinton was playing class warfare while courting Wall Street and the establishment?

kalm wrote:

Gil Dobie wrote:
I didn't say I didn't like Maher, but I don't like him. He's on my list with a lot of poly tics like Hannity, Rush, Moore, etc. I said I wouldn't waste my time, because i already know his spin.

Didn't vote for Bush either or like him in the end. Obama just continued his policy.

Look at the list and see if anything looks familiar with the tide of what is going. There is definitely a lean in that direction at the present time.

I looked at the list and it's mostly a bunch of meh. For example...Clinton was playing class warfare while courting Wall Street and the establishment?

Dude-

What doesnt make sense to you? THAT'S her MO. She has said as much herself - public face/private face, etc


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Why are we still talking about people who aren't presently holding office..?
and who are NEVER going to hold a public office again
And better yet - why are we discussing their college work from over 35 years ago



A more meaningful topic might be Mike Pence's college thesis (Hint: Jesus)
as well as his private email server that he won't stop using or surrender the contents of

He's presently holding office (in case anybody cared to notice)

Chizzang wrote:Why are we still talking about people who aren't presently holding office..?
and who are NEVER going to hold a public office again
And better yet - why are we discussing their college work from over 35 years ago



A more meaningful topic might be Mike Pence's college thesis (Hint: Jesus)
as well as his private email server that he won't stop using or surrender the contents of

He's presently holding office (in case anybody cared to notice)

Don't count Hillary out in 2020

BTW is Pence doing government business on his gmail? If so I'm sure the cable news channels will take time off from analyzing Trump's facial expressions and whether or not he's a racist and get right on it


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CID1990 wrote:

Chizzang wrote:Why are we still talking about people who aren't presently holding office..?
and who are NEVER going to hold a public office again
And better yet - why are we discussing their college work from over 35 years ago



A more meaningful topic might be Mike Pence's college thesis (Hint: Jesus)
as well as his private email server that he won't stop using or surrender the contents of

He's presently holding office (in case anybody cared to notice)

Don't count Hillary out in 2020

BTW is Pence doing government business on his gmail? If so I'm sure the cable news channels will take time off from analyzing Trump's facial expressions and whether or not he's a racist and get right on it


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I'll take even money right now she's not ALIVE in 2020.

Chizzang wrote:Why are we still talking about people who aren't presently holding office..?
and who are NEVER going to hold a public office again
And better yet - why are we discussing their college work from over 35 years ago



A more meaningful topic might be Mike Pence's college thesis (Hint: Jesus)
as well as his private email server that he won't stop using or surrender the contents of

He's presently holding office (in case anybody cared to notice)

Just browsing my facebook feed, it looks like a lot of people believe if Trump can be dethroned, Hillary or worse yet, Sanders should be anointed President. Just my perception, but many of them appear to be okay with the 8 steps. I'm fine with a topic about Mike Pence's college thesis or his email server, have at it.

As batty as Stein was, she appeared to be less of a crook, and then the recount thing came up where she exposed herself being in someone's back pocket.

I voted for a good upstanding gay Mormon.

AZGrizFan wrote:

CID1990 wrote:
Don't count Hillary out in 2020

BTW is Pence doing government business on his gmail? If so I'm sure the cable news channels will take time off from analyzing Trump's facial expressions and whether or not he's a racist and get right on it


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I'll take even money right now she's not ALIVE in 2020.

Got her in my death pool.

CID1990 wrote:

kalm wrote:
I looked at the list and it's mostly a bunch of meh. For example...Clinton was playing class warfare while courting Wall Street and the establishment?

Dude-

What doesnt make sense to you? THAT'S her MO. She has said as much herself - public face/private face, etc


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Like Maher, I only know Alinsky through what the ring wing has told me so I assumed he was one of those equal outcomes type of socialists rather than the dastardly crony capitalist class warfare for the sake of personal gain types.

But Goldman Sachs are still capitalists, right?

Gil Dobie wrote:

Chizzang wrote:Why are we still talking about people who aren't presently holding office..?
and who are NEVER going to hold a public office again
And better yet - why are we discussing their college work from over 35 years ago



A more meaningful topic might be Mike Pence's college thesis (Hint: Jesus)
as well as his private email server that he won't stop using or surrender the contents of

He's presently holding office (in case anybody cared to notice)

Just browsing my facebook feed, it looks like a lot of people believe if Trump can be dethroned, Hillary or worse yet, Sanders should be anointed President. Just my perception, but many of them appear to be okay with the 8 steps. I'm fine with a topic about Mike Pence's college thesis or his email server, have at it.

As batty as Stein was, she appeared to be less of a crook, and then the recount thing came up where she exposed herself being in someone's back pocket.

I voted for a good upstanding gay Mormon.

Browsing facebook...
That was about the end of reading your post
It's about like reading bus stop graffiti and trying to make something important out of it

Chizzang wrote:

Gil Dobie wrote:
Just browsing my facebook feed, it looks like a lot of people believe if Trump can be dethroned, Hillary or worse yet, Sanders should be anointed President. Just my perception, but many of them appear to be okay with the 8 steps. I'm fine with a topic about Mike Pence's college thesis or his email server, have at it.

As batty as Stein was, she appeared to be less of a crook, and then the recount thing came up where she exposed herself being in someone's back pocket.

I voted for a good upstanding gay Mormon.

Browsing facebook...
That was about the end of reading your post
It's about like reading bus stop graffiti and trying to make something important out of it

Bus stop graffiti...soooooooooooooooooo much better than the coffee shop graffiti that you post.

There are not a large number of people that are more disconnected than you (and that has zero to do with what you think it says about you).

Cluck U wrote:

Chizzang wrote:
Browsing facebook...
That was about the end of reading your post
It's about like reading bus stop graffiti and trying to make something important out of it

Bus stop graffiti...soooooooooooooooooo much better than the coffee shop graffiti that you post.

There are not a large number of people that are more disconnected than you (and that has zero to do with what you think it says about you).

...he said from in front of the Fornetto after a long hard day of sailing...

Cluck U wrote:

Chizzang wrote:
Browsing facebook...
That was about the end of reading your post
It's about like reading bus stop graffiti and trying to make something important out of it

Bus stop graffiti...soooooooooooooooooo much better than the coffee shop graffiti that you post.

There are not a large number of people that are more disconnected than you (and that has zero to do with what you think it says about you).

You seem very insightful and deep Cluck... You should post that on Facebook

Gil Dobie wrote:

kalm wrote:
I don't expect you to like him, but this clip my help you understand the useful idiocy of tying Alinaky nots...especially at this point.

Hey Gil, did you know that Bush's great grandpa fraternized with Nazis!!!

I didn't say I didn't like Maher, but I don't like him. He's on my list with a lot of poly tics like Hannity, Rush, Moore, etc. I said I wouldn't waste my time, because i already know his spin.

Didn't vote for Bush either or like him in the end. Obama just continued his policy.

Look at the list and see if anything looks familiar with the tide of what is going. There is definitely a lean in that direction at the present time.

I looked again at the list.

Which god should we put back in the schools and which parts?

What's wrong with leaving belief up to the individual and their families?

Because...godless commies?

kalm wrote:

Gil Dobie wrote:
I didn't say I didn't like Maher, but I don't like him. He's on my list with a lot of poly tics like Hannity, Rush, Moore, etc. I said I wouldn't waste my time, because i already know his spin.

Didn't vote for Bush either or like him in the end. Obama just continued his policy.

Look at the list and see if anything looks familiar with the tide of what is going. There is definitely a lean in that direction at the present time.

I looked again at the list.

Which god should we put back in the schools and which parts?

What's wrong with leaving belief up to the individual and their families?

Because...godless commies?

You are so close to understanding it eaglet. Put your second and third sentence together and allow God to be god as people understand him, regardless of faith. The progressives can therefore stand by their word, and accept the thoughts and idea's of others.

Gil Dobie wrote:

kalm wrote:
I looked again at the list.

Which god should we put back in the schools and which parts?

What's wrong with leaving belief up to the individual and their families?

Because...godless commies?

You are so close to understanding it eaglet. Put your second and third sentence together and allow God to be god as people understand him, regardless of faith. The progressives can therefore stand by their word, and accept the thoughts and idea's of others.

That's not already happening in schools?



Are progressives godless commies too?

kalm wrote:

Gil Dobie wrote:
You are so close to understanding it eaglet. Put your second and third sentence together and allow God to be god as people understand him, regardless of faith. The progressives can therefore stand by their word, and accept the thoughts and idea's of others.

That's not already happening in schools?



Are progressives godless commies too?

No it's not, references to god are being removed from schools. Progressives use to mean something different than it does today. Today, many people I see that label themselves progressive, are very closed minded, like those commie bastards.

Gil Dobie wrote:

kalm wrote:
That's not already happening in schools?



Are progressives godless commies too?

No it's not, references to god are being removed from schools. Progressives use to mean something different than it does today. Today, many people I see that label themselves progressive, are very closed minded, like those commie bastards.

Official references to god don't belong in public schools other than in religious studies classes. We've been through this before. We're not a theocracy.

Gil Dobie wrote: Eight steps on how to create a social state, Saul Alinsky's take on Vlady Lenin's way to control the useful idiots.

1.Healthcare– Control healthcare and you control the people.
2.Poverty – Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.
3.Debt – Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.
4.Gun Control– Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.
5.Welfare – Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income).
6.Education – Take control of what people read and listen to – take control of what children learn in school.
7.Religion – Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools
8.Class Warfare – Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.

FAKE [old] NEWS!!! SAD!


http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/alinsky.asp