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SeattleGriz wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 7:10 pm
kalm wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 6:36 pm

You forget I’m no fan of establishment Dems. Clintons, Podesta, Emmanuel, Pelosi, Manchin…the list is long and distinguished.

But the Russian ties to Trump are extraordinarily obvious.
As we are on Manafort, you know the crimes he was convicted of had nothing to do with Trump and everything to do with working with John and Tony Podesta?
The Podesta’s were working with the Russians to get the dirt on Clinton too?

Holy shit! This thing goes deep!
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kalm wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 7:26 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 7:10 pm

As we are on Manafort, you know the crimes he was convicted of had nothing to do with Trump and everything to do with working with John and Tony Podesta?
The Podesta’s were working with the Russians to get the dirt on Clinton too?

Holy shit! This thing goes deep!
The Podesta's were lobbying on behalf of the Ukrainians and Manafort was working with them.

Really makes you wonder what is going on with Ukraine. Trump asks Zelensky for help investigating all the money flowing in and out, gets impeached. Once Trump is out of the way, war with Russia starts. There are trillions at stake.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 10:11 am
kalm wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 7:26 am

The Podesta’s were working with the Russians to get the dirt on Clinton too?

Holy shit! This thing goes deep!
The Podesta's were lobbying on behalf of the Ukrainians and Manafort was working with them.

Really makes you wonder what is going on with Ukraine. Trump asks Zelensky for help investigating all the money flowing in and out, gets impeached. Once Trump is out of the way, war with Russia starts. There are trillions at stake.
So the Podesta’s were working with Yanukovych too?
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kalm wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 10:56 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 10:11 am

The Podesta's were lobbying on behalf of the Ukrainians and Manafort was working with them.

Really makes you wonder what is going on with Ukraine. Trump asks Zelensky for help investigating all the money flowing in and out, gets impeached. Once Trump is out of the way, war with Russia starts. There are trillions at stake.
So the Podesta’s were working with Yanukovych too?
How do you not know this?!

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/10/us/p ... ation.html
Mr. Podesta’s older brother, Tony Podesta, has been ensnared in the investigation by Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel, into Russia’s meddling in the race and whether it involved any associates of President Trump. The efforts by his firm, the Podesta Group, to win support for the agenda of Viktor F. Yanukovych, the Russia-aligned former president of Ukraine, were cited in an indictment handed down last month against two former campaign aides to Mr. Trump, Paul Manafort and Rick Gates, who arranged the Ukrainian lobbying work.
Mueller went after Manafort and gave the Podesta's a pass.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.busine ... 7-10%3famp
Tony Podesta stepped down from his lobbying firm after it was found to be in violation of the Foreign Agents Registration Act.
The Podesta Group had worked with Paul Manafort, President Donald Trump's former campaign chairman, on lobbying the US government to legitimize former Russian-backed Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych.
Podesta himself claims he was unaware he was working on behalf of Yanukovych, and did not disclose his firm's operations to federal regulators.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 4:08 pm
kalm wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 10:56 am

So the Podesta’s were working with Yanukovych too?
How do you not know this?!

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/10/us/p ... ation.html
Mr. Podesta’s older brother, Tony Podesta, has been ensnared in the investigation by Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel, into Russia’s meddling in the race and whether it involved any associates of President Trump. The efforts by his firm, the Podesta Group, to win support for the agenda of Viktor F. Yanukovych, the Russia-aligned former president of Ukraine, were cited in an indictment handed down last month against two former campaign aides to Mr. Trump, Paul Manafort and Rick Gates, who arranged the Ukrainian lobbying work.
Mueller went after Manafort and gave the Podesta's a pass.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.busine ... 7-10%3famp
Tony Podesta stepped down from his lobbying firm after it was found to be in violation of the Foreign Agents Registration Act.
The Podesta Group had worked with Paul Manafort, President Donald Trump's former campaign chairman, on lobbying the US government to legitimize former Russian-backed Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych.
Podesta himself claims he was unaware he was working on behalf of Yanukovych, and did not disclose his firm's operations to federal regulators.
So they were all helping Yanukovych.

I’m not surprised.
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kalm wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 5:35 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 4:08 pm

How do you not know this?!

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/10/us/p ... ation.html



Mueller went after Manafort and gave the Podesta's a pass.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.busine ... 7-10%3famp

So they were all helping Yanukovych.

I’m not surprised.
Yes, but notice the Podesta's got to file FARA paperwork and close up shop, while Manafort got prosecuted.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 6:39 pm
kalm wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 5:35 pm

So they were all helping Yanukovych.

I’m not surprised.
Yes, but notice the Podesta's got to file FARA paperwork and close up shop, while Manafort got prosecuted.
So the Clintonistas were conspiring with the Russian ally Yanukovych too?

Wild, man.
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She’s got a point. They were all conspiring with along with Trump to defeat…….Trump!

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kalm wrote: Sat May 20, 2023 5:06 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 6:39 pm

Yes, but notice the Podesta's got to file FARA paperwork and close up shop, while Manafort got prosecuted.
So the Clintonistas were conspiring with the Russian ally Yanukovych too?

Wild, man.
I'll take your response as trying to obfuscate the obvious fact Manafort, while slimy, was chosen to be prosecuted for influence peddling simply because it could be used as a talking point against Trump. Mueller could have gone after the Podesta's just as easily but didnt.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat May 20, 2023 7:45 am
kalm wrote: Sat May 20, 2023 5:06 am

So the Clintonistas were conspiring with the Russian ally Yanukovych too?

Wild, man.
I'll take your response as trying to obfuscate the obvious fact Manafort, while slimy, was chosen to be prosecuted for influence peddling simply because it could be used as a talking point against Trump. Mueller could have gone after the Podesta's just as easily but didnt.
The Podesta’s are slimy, no doubt. It’s purely speculation on your part or whoever you’re following as to why they weren’t prosecuted.

Now…apply your logic to Hunter.
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kalm wrote: Sat May 20, 2023 7:58 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Sat May 20, 2023 7:45 am

I'll take your response as trying to obfuscate the obvious fact Manafort, while slimy, was chosen to be prosecuted for influence peddling simply because it could be used as a talking point against Trump. Mueller could have gone after the Podesta's just as easily but didnt.
The Podesta’s are slimy, no doubt. It’s purely speculation on your part or whoever you’re following as to why they weren’t prosecuted.

Now…apply your logic to Hunter.
:lol: This whole board is speculation, but when it walks like a duck it's hard not to call it a 🦆.

In regards to Hunter, if you apply FARA prosecution Manafort style to Hunter, he'd be convicted. Will he? No. Before Manafort, name me one person convicted of FARA?

On a separate note and I've drawn a blank, but recently the Whitehouse mouth pieces were talking about some small country and how they were trampling the rights of the populace because their government wanted to enact FARA rules. Obvious the US didn't want their NGO's called out.
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kalm wrote: Sat May 20, 2023 5:06 am She’s got a point. They were all conspiring with along with Trump to defeat…….Trump!

:lol:
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Putin’s grasp of American criminal law is strong!

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kalm wrote: Sat May 20, 2023 5:06 am She’s got a point. They were all conspiring with along with Trump to defeat…….Trump!

I don't trust anyone that was married to Gavin Newsom and now Trump Jr.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 7:24 am
kalm wrote: Sat May 20, 2023 5:06 am She’s got a point. They were all conspiring with along with Trump to defeat…….Trump!

I don't trust anyone that was married to Gavin Newsom and now Trump Jr.
But you agree with her tweet and Putin’s list.
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kalm wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 7:30 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 7:24 am

I don't trust anyone that was married to Gavin Newsom and now Trump Jr.
But you agree with her tweet and Putin’s list.
I have no idea what she said. Can't stand to listen to her.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 7:57 am
kalm wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 7:30 am

But you agree with her tweet and Putin’s list.
I have no idea what she said. Can't stand to listen to her.
The tweet is right up there. ^
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kalm wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 8:02 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 7:57 am

I have no idea what she said. Can't stand to listen to her.
The tweet is right up there. ^
Is this the route you're going? Totally wrong on Russia collusion, so you're reduced to Twitter clips and sound bites? :lol:

I ain't listening to her. Nails on a chalkboard.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 8:16 am
kalm wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 8:02 am

The tweet is right up there. ^
Is this the route you're going? Totally wrong on Russia collusion, so you're reduced to Twitter clips and sound bites? :lol:

I ain't listening to her. Nails on a chalkboard.
But you agree with her.

What have I been wrong about? Do you not agree with her tweet? Why so evasive?
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kalm wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 8:45 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 8:16 am

Is this the route you're going? Totally wrong on Russia collusion, so you're reduced to Twitter clips and sound bites? :lol:

I ain't listening to her. Nails on a chalkboard.
But you agree with her.

What have I been wrong about? Do you not agree with her tweet? Why so evasive?
Let's do the short list. What have you been right about? Certainly not Russia collusion.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 8:48 am
kalm wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 8:45 am

But you agree with her.

What have I been wrong about? Do you not agree with her tweet? Why so evasive?
Let's do the short list. What have you been right about? Certainly not Russia collusion.
Russian collusion was not disproven by Mueller. You know that right?
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kalm wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 8:54 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 8:48 am

Let's do the short list. What have you been right about? Certainly not Russia collusion.
Russian collusion was not disproven by Mueller. You know that right?
Still gonna run with that angle? :rofl:

Trump was not in cahoots with Putin to influence the election.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 9:25 am
kalm wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 8:54 am

Russian collusion was not disproven by Mueller. You know that right?
Still gonna run with that angle? :rofl:

Trump was not in cahoots with Putin to influence the election.
I think it’s highly likely. As likely as Hunter trading on his dad’s name.
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kalm wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 10:03 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 9:25 am

Still gonna run with that angle? :rofl:

Trump was not in cahoots with Putin to influence the election.
I think it’s highly likely. As likely as Hunter trading on his dad’s name.
Exactly. And that's another reason I won't listen to Guilfoyle. You're purposeful misconstruing coupled with her annoying voice are simply too much. :lol: :kisswink:
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SeattleGriz wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 10:09 am
kalm wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 10:03 am

I think it’s highly likely. As likely as Hunter trading on his dad’s name.
Exactly. And that's another reason I won't listen to Guilfoyle. You're purposeful misconstruing coupled with her annoying voice are simply too much. :lol: :kisswink:
Right. But you totally agree with her post.
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