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CID1990 wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote: A large percentage of Capito's constitutes finally have health insurance thanks to Obamacare. Ironically, they didn't even realize that until they elected Trump and he started trying to take it away. :lol:
Trump campaigned on not messing with entitlements like Medicaid

Hot Air pretty much sums up why Limbaugh (who BDK was repeating) is full of it on this:

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I think this failure by the conks will set up the donk single payer platform quite well. donks will claim they will solve the imploding obamacare with single payer, and those on the gubmint healthcare dole will gladly go along with it...and conks will run on a "no, we really really really will repeal obamacare this time, we mean it" platform which will appeal to pretty much no one.

I'm just glad me and mine will have the coin to skip the line and pay cash for our medical needs when single payer is finally the law of the land.
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SDHornet wrote:I think this failure by the conks will set up the donk single payer platform quite well. donks will claim they will solve the imploding obamacare with single payer, and those on the gubmint healthcare dole will gladly go along with it...and conks will run on a "no, we really really really will repeal obamacare this time, we mean it" platform which will appeal to pretty much no one.

I'm just glad me and mine will have the coin to skip the line and pay cash for our medical needs when single payer is finally the law of the land.
Democrats: Obamacare is failing. Yes, it's a great law that's done great things and saved many people. As wonderful and Star-Spangled as it is, it's failing. SO,we're scrapping it for Single Payer. Trust us, this will work. Republicans want death panels. :kisswink:
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Ibanez wrote:
SDHornet wrote:I think this failure by the conks will set up the donk single payer platform quite well. donks will claim they will solve the imploding obamacare with single payer, and those on the gubmint healthcare dole will gladly go along with it...and conks will run on a "no, we really really really will repeal obamacare this time, we mean it" platform which will appeal to pretty much no one.

I'm just glad me and mine will have the coin to skip the line and pay cash for our medical needs when single payer is finally the law of the land.
Democrats: Obamacare is failing. Yes, it's a great law that's done great things and saved many people. As wonderful and Star-Spangled as it is, it's failing. SO,we're scrapping it for Single Payer. Trust us, this will work. Republicans want death panels. :kisswink:
Obamacare isn't failing. It's also not doing much to fix the drain on the economy, control pricing and it's almost seems like it's decreased efficiency if that's possible.

But a number of people were truly saved by it. I know a couple personally who would have gone bankrupt. It's nice if you have "coin to pay cash for medical needs" especially when you're not healthy. I'm glad I didn't have to with my youngest's kidney problems, assorted treatments, and surgeries that ran over $40,000 when he was an infant.

Not everyone can pay 100's of 1000's in cash.
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Wheres the Republican alternative to ACA?

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kalm wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Democrats: Obamacare is failing. Yes, it's a great law that's done great things and saved many people. As wonderful and Star-Spangled as it is, it's failing. SO,we're scrapping it for Single Payer. Trust us, this will work. Republicans want death panels. :kisswink:
Obamacare isn't failing. It's also not doing much to fix the drain on the economy, control pricing and it's almost seems like it's decreased efficiency if that's possible.

But a number of people were truly saved by it. I know a couple personally who would have gone bankrupt. It's nice if you have "coin to pay cash for medical needs" especially when you're not healthy. I'm glad I didn't have to with my youngest's kidney problems, assorted treatments, and surgeries that ran over $40,000 when he was an infant.

Not everyone can pay 100's of 1000's in cash.
wow

We might be sacrificing quality when government gets involved in paying for a commodity?

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CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:
Obamacare isn't failing. It's also not doing much to fix the drain on the economy, control pricing and it's almost seems like it's decreased efficiency if that's possible.

But a number of people were truly saved by it. I know a couple personally who would have gone bankrupt. It's nice if you have "coin to pay cash for medical needs" especially when you're not healthy. I'm glad I didn't have to with my youngest's kidney problems, assorted treatments, and surgeries that ran over $40,000 when he was an infant.

Not everyone can pay 100's of 1000's in cash.
wow

We might be sacrificing quality when government gets involved in paying for a commodity?

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I had to qualify the statement so that free market feelings don't get hurt.
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kalm wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
wow

We might be sacrificing quality when government gets involved in paying for a commodity?

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I had to qualify the statement so that free market feelings don't get hurt.

Here's CID:

"I do enjoy government run socialist funded Airlines...
But that's where I draw the line, after that I'm all about the free market"

Me after that...

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kalm wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Democrats: Obamacare is failing. Yes, it's a great law that's done great things and saved many people. As wonderful and Star-Spangled as it is, it's failing. SO,we're scrapping it for Single Payer. Trust us, this will work. Republicans want death panels. :kisswink:
Obamacare isn't failing. It's also not doing much to fix the drain on the economy, control pricing and it's almost seems like it's decreased efficiency if that's possible.

But a number of people were truly saved by it. I know a couple personally who would have gone bankrupt. It's nice if you have "coin to pay cash for medical needs" especially when you're not healthy. I'm glad I didn't have to with my youngest's kidney problems, assorted treatments, and surgeries that ran over $40,000 when he was an infant.

Not everyone can pay 100's of 1000's in cash.
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Chizzang wrote:
kalm wrote:
I had to qualify the statement so that free market feelings don't get hurt.

Here's CID:

"I do enjoy government run socialist funded Airlines...
But that's where I draw the line, after that I'm all about the free market"

Me after that...

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Well its like I've asked klam a million times so now I'll ask you-

where does this confidence in government come from? where is that glowing example of government efficiency that makes you think we should turn so much more over to it?

take yer time... i'll wait

(if we were going to go full retard and statify everything then I might be OK if we imported a bunch of Koreans and Japanese to run it.... our own track record ain't that good)


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CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:

Here's CID:

"I do enjoy government run socialist funded Airlines...
But that's where I draw the line, after that I'm all about the free market"

Me after that...

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Well its like I've asked klam a million times so now I'll ask you-

where does this confidence in government come from? where is that glowing example of government efficiency that makes you think we should turn so much more over to it?

take yer time... i'll wait

(if we were going to go full retard and statify everything then I might be OK if we imported a bunch of Koreans and Japanese to run it.... our own track record ain't that good)
Here:
Korean Air...

And when did I say I wanted the government to run anything..?
I'm simply pointing out how much you enjoy socialist run airlines
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Righties have no qualms with spending $7 billion/month for 'overseas contingency operations' (plus giving gazillionaires 100s of billions of dollars in tax breaks) but turn apoplectic when it comes to $7 billion/yr for lower-income Americans to purchase private health insurance.

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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
Well its like I've asked klam a million times so now I'll ask you-

where does this confidence in government come from? where is that glowing example of government efficiency that makes you think we should turn so much more over to it?

take yer time... i'll wait

(if we were going to go full retard and statify everything then I might be OK if we imported a bunch of Koreans and Japanese to run it.... our own track record ain't that good)
Here:
Korean Air...

And when did I say I wanted the government to run anything..?
I'm simply pointing out how much you enjoy socialist run airlines
I see you are having your klamjelly moment

I also enjoy airlines staffed by hot, tall Asian women with manga eyes who dote on me and my family

coincidence?


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Aho Old Guy wrote::dunce:
Re: Wheres the Republican alternative to ACA?

In Eye-Rack ... and Daft-Opium-Stand.

Righties have no qualms with spending $7 billion/month for 'overseas contingency operations' (plus giving gazillionaires 100s of billions of dollars in tax breaks) but turn apoplectic when it comes to $7 billion/yr for lower-income Americans to purchase private health insurance.

Morons.
This has been mentioned on this board numerous times

by the righties as well as the lefties

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kalm wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Democrats: Obamacare is failing. Yes, it's a great law that's done great things and saved many people. As wonderful and Star-Spangled as it is, it's failing. SO,we're scrapping it for Single Payer. Trust us, this will work. Republicans want death panels. :kisswink:
Obamacare isn't failing. It's also not doing much to fix the drain on the economy, control pricing and it's almost seems like it's decreased efficiency if that's possible.

But a number of people were truly saved by it. I know a couple personally who would have gone bankrupt. It's nice if you have "coin to pay cash for medical needs" especially when you're not healthy. I'm glad I didn't have to with my youngest's kidney problems, assorted treatments, and surgeries that ran over $40,000 when he was an infant.

Not everyone can pay 100's of 1000's in cash.
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I have a good friend who is still here because Obamacare paid for his triple bypass.
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CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:

Here's CID:

"I do enjoy government run socialist funded Airlines...
But that's where I draw the line, after that I'm all about the free market"

Me after that...

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Well its like I've asked klam a million times so now I'll ask you-

where does this confidence in government come from? where is that glowing example of government efficiency that makes you think we should turn so much more over to it?

take yer time... i'll wait

(if we were going to go full retard and statify everything then I might be OK if we imported a bunch of Koreans and Japanese to run it.... our own track record ain't that good)


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"Confidence in government?" "Glowing example of government efficiency"?

Hyperbole much? :ohno:
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CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Here:
Korean Air...

And when did I say I wanted the government to run anything..?
I'm simply pointing out how much you enjoy socialist run airlines
I see you are having your klamjelly moment

I also enjoy airlines staffed by hot, tall Asian women with manga eyes who dote on me and my family

coincidence?
When you say that ^ all I hear is "Socialism"

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kalm wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
Well its like I've asked klam a million times so now I'll ask you-

where does this confidence in government come from? where is that glowing example of government efficiency that makes you think we should turn so much more over to it?

take yer time... i'll wait

(if we were going to go full retard and statify everything then I might be OK if we imported a bunch of Koreans and Japanese to run it.... our own track record ain't that good)


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"Confidence in government?" "Glowing example of government efficiency"?

Hyperbole much? :ohno:
Only as much as suggesting my affinity for certain Asian airlines is inconsistent with my opinions on government

I didn't realize I was supposed to be all or nothing


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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
I see you are having your klamjelly moment

I also enjoy airlines staffed by hot, tall Asian women with manga eyes who dote on me and my family

coincidence?
When you say that ^ all I hear is "Socialism"

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CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
When you say that ^ all I hear is "Socialism"

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Listening to C-Span...motion to proceed with discussing the ACA repeal just passed (I think).
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∞∞∞ wrote:Listening to C-Span...motion to proceed with discussing the ACA repeal just passed (I think).
Every Republican plus VP Pence needs to vote to move this along. Just need 1 more Republican 'No'.
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Ibanez wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote:Listening to C-Span...motion to proceed with discussing the ACA repeal just passed (I think).
Every Republican plus VP Pence needs to vote to move this along. Just need 1 more Republican 'No'.
It looks like it is coming down to Ron Johnson from Wisconsin.
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48-2. No Dems have voted nor have 2 Republicans (McCain & Johnson of WI)
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VP to break the tie...
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BCRA + Cruz amendment

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