What would you call it? East Tennessee or West North Carolina?CID1990 wrote:Quite frankly, I think east TN / western NC would have made a very nice state.Skjellyfetti wrote:
Yeah.
Wish western NC and eastern TN could have split off on their own.
Area around Boone - "the Lost Provinces" - was always economically linked more to eastern Tennessee than Raleigh. Less so now - after the Tweetsie stopped and then 421 expanded.
Some App fans that don't know the history are very confused why we play the "Tennessee Waltz" after football games.
Campus Happenings
- BDKJMU
- Level5
- Posts: 27988
- Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:59 am
- I am a fan of: JMU
- A.K.A.: BDKJMU
- Location: Philly Burbs
Re: Campus Happenings
..peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard..
JMU Football: 2022 & 2023 Sun Belt East Champions...But you have to go home now. We have to have peace…
..I know how you feel, but go home, and go home in peace.
- CID1990
- Level5
- Posts: 25460
- Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:40 am
- I am a fan of: Pie
- A.K.A.: CID 1990
- Location: กรุงเทพมหานคร
Re: Campus Happenings
I’d call it “Not Florida”BDKJMU wrote:What would you call it? East Tennessee or West North Carolina?CID1990 wrote:
Quite frankly, I think east TN / western NC would have made a very nice state.
The state motto would be “Don’t retire here, it’s cold and snowy”
"You however, are an insufferable ankle biting mental chihuahua..." - Clizzoris
- GannonFan
- Level5
- Posts: 18062
- Joined: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:51 am
- I am a fan of: Delaware
- A.K.A.: Non-Partisan Hack
Re: Campus Happenings
Saw this on the BBC - apparently clapping now creates a threatening environment. The University of Manchester has banned clapping in favor of jazz hands.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-manchester-45717841
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-manchester-45717841
Proud Member of the Blue Hen Nation
Re: Campus Happenings
Ibanez wrote:Schools have failed you. Nobody is going to say that a declaration like that was spoken before we fired on Ft. Sumter. It would behoove you to educate yourself. If you want the Southern version of events or rational, go read the Ordinances of Secession from SC, Texas, Alabama, Virginia. Read “The Declaration of the Immediate Causes Which Induce and Justify the Secession of South Carolina from the Federal Union.” Or the "Address to the People of the Slaveholding States," which cites the institution of slavery, as well as Southern taxes being disproportionately apportioned to the North.Bisonfanatical wrote:
Someone would have to show me that the south DECLARED that when they fired the first shot at Ft Sumpter ... it was over slaves.
Just find one history book to back it up ... the winner writes history, must be thousands of books stating that?
Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk
Or how about Mississippi, which cites in it's Secession declaration:You owe it to yourself to attempt to read and comprehend history. Yes, the victors write the history books, but there's plenty of primary documentation from the Southern states, there was a 35 year period before 1860 which is accurately and well documented showing that slavery was going to be a cause.Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery — the greatest material interest of the world
Hopefully, you can draw the line between secession the war. One begat another.
Consider this my spiritual work of mercy.
This, very well stated. The South came up with the states rights argument after the war to justify their cause.
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Re: Campus Happenings
I'm probably supposed to be triggered by this article, but I quietly applaud it.GannonFan wrote:Saw this on the BBC - apparently clapping now creates a threatening environment. The University of Manchester has banned clapping in favor of jazz hands.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-manchester-45717841
Delaware Football: 1889-2012; 2022-
- Chizzang
- Level5
- Posts: 19273
- Joined: Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:36 am
- I am a fan of: Deflate Gate
- A.K.A.: The Quasar Kid
- Location: Soon to be Eden Prairie...
Re: Campus Happenings
93henfan wrote:I'm probably supposed to be triggered by this article, but I quietly applaud it.GannonFan wrote:Saw this on the BBC - apparently clapping now creates a threatening environment. The University of Manchester has banned clapping in favor of jazz hands.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-manchester-45717841
No clapping
Q: Name something that offends Republicans?
A: The actual teachings of Jesus
A: The actual teachings of Jesus
- Pwns
- Level4
- Posts: 7274
- Joined: Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:38 pm
- I am a fan of: Georgia Friggin' Southern
- A.K.A.: FCS_pwns_FBS (AGS)
Re: Campus Happenings
Alan Sokal Affair Round 2:
A bunch of academics punk journals in Gender or Racial Grievance Studies into publishing nonsense papers.
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/10/h ... -sciences/
https://quillette.com/2018/10/01/the-gr ... s-respond/
A bunch of academics punk journals in Gender or Racial Grievance Studies into publishing nonsense papers.
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/10/h ... -sciences/
https://quillette.com/2018/10/01/the-gr ... s-respond/
Celebrate Diversity.*
*of appearance only. Restrictions apply.
*of appearance only. Restrictions apply.
- Chizzang
- Level5
- Posts: 19273
- Joined: Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:36 am
- I am a fan of: Deflate Gate
- A.K.A.: The Quasar Kid
- Location: Soon to be Eden Prairie...
Re: Campus Happenings
BTW:Pwns wrote:Alan Sokal Affair Round 2:
A bunch of academics punk journals in Gender or Racial Grievance Studies into publishing nonsense papers.
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/10/h ... -sciences/
https://quillette.com/2018/10/01/the-gr ... s-respond/
There is no actual "science" in Social Science
Unless of course by Science you mean hyperbole and conjecture
Q: Name something that offends Republicans?
A: The actual teachings of Jesus
A: The actual teachings of Jesus
- JohnStOnge
- Egalitarian
- Posts: 20314
- Joined: Sun Jan 03, 2010 5:47 pm
- I am a fan of: McNeese State
- A.K.A.: JohnStOnge
Re: Campus Happenings
I think the problem goes beyond social sciences. I've posted about this sort of thing a number of times. The "peer review" process is not a quality control process. If someone submits a paper that flatters the acceptable in terms of philosophy it gets a lot less scrutiny than a paper that challenges the acceptable. It's not a matter of looking at the methodology and assessing whether it is acceptable then looking at the results to see if they really support the conclusions.Chizzang wrote:BTW:Pwns wrote:Alan Sokal Affair Round 2:
A bunch of academics punk journals in Gender or Racial Grievance Studies into publishing nonsense papers.
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/10/h ... -sciences/
https://quillette.com/2018/10/01/the-gr ... s-respond/
There is no actual "science" in Social Science
Unless of course by Science you mean hyperbole and conjecture
And I think it's a real problem for us.
Well, I believe that I must tell the truth
And say things as they really are
But if I told the truth and nothing but the truth
Could I ever be a star?
Deep Purple: No One Came
And say things as they really are
But if I told the truth and nothing but the truth
Could I ever be a star?
Deep Purple: No One Came
- Pwns
- Level4
- Posts: 7274
- Joined: Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:38 pm
- I am a fan of: Georgia Friggin' Southern
- A.K.A.: FCS_pwns_FBS (AGS)
Re: Campus Happenings
You might be surprised that I say this, but I think the social sciences (at least some of them) could actually be really useful, though not they way they are done now. There are two big problems with social science:Chizzang wrote:BTW:Pwns wrote:Alan Sokal Affair Round 2:
A bunch of academics punk journals in Gender or Racial Grievance Studies into publishing nonsense papers.
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/10/h ... -sciences/
https://quillette.com/2018/10/01/the-gr ... s-respond/
There is no actual "science" in Social Science
Unless of course by Science you mean hyperbole and conjecture
1. They are ridiculously politically biased. There are in fact studies that show that when papers are submitted to academic journals with identical methods and research questions come to opposite conclusions, the paper with the conclusion more favorable to liberal ideology is more likely to be recommended for publication. And you can also see it by those just blindly accepting that because young black men are more likely to be killed by police than others, that there is racial bias in police killings. And there's the intense opposition to any research showing differences between the sexes are innate and not driven by society. I could give many more examples.
2. The replication crisis. People who are in the social sciences and psychology and such tend to be people that like science but aren't really strong in math. As a result you get illiteracy in statistical methods and the "p-hacking" phenomena and have only positive results getting published when many conclusions in papers that are codified into the canon of a science that can't even be replicated.
Of course, they like to hide behind the "we're the experts" thing, but if we're being honest and not politically correct, we all know the lay-person can much more easily read and understand a published paper in the social sciences than a physics journal.
BTW, if you think I'm just parroting right-wing talking points here I'm not. There's quite a few pretty influential people in academia like Steven Pinker (who can't really be accused of being right-wing) who are basically saying a lot of the same things. If done rigorously social science would probably run over a lot of both the political left and right's sacred cows.
Celebrate Diversity.*
*of appearance only. Restrictions apply.
*of appearance only. Restrictions apply.
-
- Supporter
- Posts: 26827
- Joined: Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:22 pm
- I am a fan of: Salisbury University
- Location: Republic of Western Sussex
Re: Campus Happenings
Well, John, you’ve survived the toughest peer review process there is, right here on CS.com!JohnStOnge wrote:I think the problem goes beyond social sciences. I've posted about this sort of thing a number of times. The "peer review" process is not a quality control process. If someone submits a paper that flatters the acceptable in terms of philosophy it gets a lot less scrutiny than a paper that challenges the acceptable. It's not a matter of looking at the methodology and assessing whether it is acceptable then looking at the results to see if they really support the conclusions.Chizzang wrote:
BTW:
There is no actual "science" in Social Science
Unless of course by Science you mean hyperbole and conjecture
And I think it's a real problem for us.
Anyway, I find a lot of unreviewed SSRN articles far deeper and more substantive.
“I’m tired and done.” — 89Hen 3/27/22.
- Chizzang
- Level5
- Posts: 19273
- Joined: Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:36 am
- I am a fan of: Deflate Gate
- A.K.A.: The Quasar Kid
- Location: Soon to be Eden Prairie...
Re: Campus Happenings
I totally agree with you ^Pwns wrote:You might be surprised that I say this, but I think the social sciences (at least some of them) could actually be really useful, though not they way they are done now. There are two big problems with social science:Chizzang wrote:
BTW:
There is no actual "science" in Social Science
Unless of course by Science you mean hyperbole and conjecture
1. They are ridiculously politically biased. There are in fact studies that show that when papers are submitted to academic journals with identical methods and research questions come to opposite conclusions, the paper with the conclusion more favorable to liberal ideology is more likely to be recommended for publication. And you can also see it by those just blindly accepting that because young black men are more likely to be killed by police than others, that there is racial bias in police killings. And there's the intense opposition to any research showing differences between the sexes are innate and not driven by society. I could give many more examples.
2. The replication crisis. People who are in the social sciences and psychology and such tend to be people that like science but aren't really strong in math. As a result you get illiteracy in statistical methods and the "p-hacking" phenomena and have only positive results getting published when many conclusions in papers that are codified into the canon of a science that can't even be replicated.
Of course, they like to hide behind the "we're the experts" thing, but if we're being honest and not politically correct, we all know the lay-person can much more easily read and understand a published paper in the social sciences than a physics journal.
BTW, if you think I'm just parroting right-wing talking points here I'm not. There's quite a few pretty influential people in academia like Steven Pinker (who can't really be accused of being right-wing) who are basically saying a lot of the same things. If done rigorously social science would probably run over a lot of both the political left and right's sacred cows.
and I enjoy Pinker (and I'd like for him to get a haircut)
Guys like Pinker and Harris when evaluating society seem to enjoy delivering the bad news
Usually in the most interesting and entertaining ways (which is nice)
and by bad news I mean anything that pushes back against the tidal wave of Liberal contrivances
that have become the mainstream social justice calling cards
BTW: The Southern Poverty Law Center
The leader in "getting it all wrong" in this category
Is neither impoverished nor Southern
Q: Name something that offends Republicans?
A: The actual teachings of Jesus
A: The actual teachings of Jesus
- CID1990
- Level5
- Posts: 25460
- Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:40 am
- I am a fan of: Pie
- A.K.A.: CID 1990
- Location: กรุงเทพมหานคร
Re: Campus Happenings
I have a colleague who I worked with in Lagos - she's this awesome, brilliant little Alabama woman with a twang and a high Bernadette voice, and pretty liberal, especially not the norm for folks from Alabama. She was telling me about her cousin who apparently is some muckety muck with the SPLC> She didn't have much good to say about the organization except that it has little to do with justice seeking and more to do with scalding people who don't toe the social justice line... that's why you find them also going after people like Ayaan Hirsi Ali and othersChizzang wrote:I totally agree with you ^Pwns wrote:
You might be surprised that I say this, but I think the social sciences (at least some of them) could actually be really useful, though not they way they are done now. There are two big problems with social science:
1. They are ridiculously politically biased. There are in fact studies that show that when papers are submitted to academic journals with identical methods and research questions come to opposite conclusions, the paper with the conclusion more favorable to liberal ideology is more likely to be recommended for publication. And you can also see it by those just blindly accepting that because young black men are more likely to be killed by police than others, that there is racial bias in police killings. And there's the intense opposition to any research showing differences between the sexes are innate and not driven by society. I could give many more examples.
2. The replication crisis. People who are in the social sciences and psychology and such tend to be people that like science but aren't really strong in math. As a result you get illiteracy in statistical methods and the "p-hacking" phenomena and have only positive results getting published when many conclusions in papers that are codified into the canon of a science that can't even be replicated.
Of course, they like to hide behind the "we're the experts" thing, but if we're being honest and not politically correct, we all know the lay-person can much more easily read and understand a published paper in the social sciences than a physics journal.
BTW, if you think I'm just parroting right-wing talking points here I'm not. There's quite a few pretty influential people in academia like Steven Pinker (who can't really be accused of being right-wing) who are basically saying a lot of the same things. If done rigorously social science would probably run over a lot of both the political left and right's sacred cows.
and I enjoy Pinker (and I'd like for him to get a haircut)
Guys like Pinker and Harris when evaluating society seem to enjoy delivering the bad news
Usually in the most interesting and entertaining ways (which is nice)
and by bad news I mean anything that pushes back against the tidal wave of Liberal contrivances
that have become the mainstream social justice calling cards
BTW: The Southern Poverty Law Center
The leader in "getting it all wrong" in this category
Is neither impoverished nor Southern
"You however, are an insufferable ankle biting mental chihuahua..." - Clizzoris
- Pwns
- Level4
- Posts: 7274
- Joined: Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:38 pm
- I am a fan of: Georgia Friggin' Southern
- A.K.A.: FCS_pwns_FBS (AGS)
Re: Campus Happenings
https://www.kentucky.com/news/nation-wo ... 43455.html
SCAD students want Clarence Thomas' name taken off of building. Didn't think this kind of stuff happened anywhere in the South outside of places like Chapel Hill and Boone.
SCAD students want Clarence Thomas' name taken off of building. Didn't think this kind of stuff happened anywhere in the South outside of places like Chapel Hill and Boone.
Celebrate Diversity.*
*of appearance only. Restrictions apply.
*of appearance only. Restrictions apply.
Re: Campus Happenings
SCAD is an art school.Pwns wrote:https://www.kentucky.com/news/nation-wo ... 43455.html
SCAD students want Clarence Thomas' name taken off of building. Didn't think this kind of stuff happened anywhere in the South outside of places like Chapel Hill and Boone.
‘Nuff said.
I didn’t read the article, we’re talking about the Savannah College of Art and Design, right?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Turns out I might be a little gay. 89Hen 11/7/17
- BDKJMU
- Level5
- Posts: 27988
- Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:59 am
- I am a fan of: JMU
- A.K.A.: BDKJMU
- Location: Philly Burbs
Re: Campus Happenings
Notre Dame is covering up its Columbus murals because he was an evil, racist brown er I mean white guy.
https://nypost.com/2019/01/21/notre-dam ... us-murals/
https://nypost.com/2019/01/21/notre-dam ... us-murals/
..peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard..
JMU Football: 2022 & 2023 Sun Belt East Champions...But you have to go home now. We have to have peace…
..I know how you feel, but go home, and go home in peace.
Re: Campus Happenings
Correct. They are a SJW version of a mini-Liberty, but with $50K tuition. Their president makes about $10 million a year.Ibanez wrote:SCAD is an art school.Pwns wrote:https://www.kentucky.com/news/nation-wo ... 43455.html
SCAD students want Clarence Thomas' name taken off of building. Didn't think this kind of stuff happened anywhere in the South outside of places like Chapel Hill and Boone.
‘Nuff said.
I didn’t read the article, we’re talking about the Savannah College of Art and Design, right?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Re: Campus Happenings
I know all about SCAD - my wife is an alumnus. $50k tuition sounds low.Baldy wrote:Correct. They are a SJW version of a mini-Liberty, but with $50K tuition. Their president makes about $10 million a year.Ibanez wrote: SCAD is an art school.
‘Nuff said.
I didn’t read the article, we’re talking about the Savannah College of Art and Design, right?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Turns out I might be a little gay. 89Hen 11/7/17
- Grizalltheway
- Supporter
- Posts: 35688
- Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:01 pm
- A.K.A.: DJ Honey BBQ
- Location: BSC
Re: Campus Happenings
He did do fucked up things, he wasn't the first to discover North America, and he wasn't an American citizen. Why are you so triggered?BDKJMU wrote:Notre Dame is covering up its Columbus murals because he was an evil, racist brown er I mean white guy.
https://nypost.com/2019/01/21/notre-dam ... us-murals/
Re: Campus Happenings
B/c 'Merica!Grizalltheway wrote:He did do fucked up things, he wasn't the first to discover North America, and he wasn't an American citizen. Why are you so triggered?BDKJMU wrote:Notre Dame is covering up its Columbus murals because he was an evil, racist brown er I mean white guy.
https://nypost.com/2019/01/21/notre-dam ... us-murals/
Turns out I might be a little gay. 89Hen 11/7/17
Re: Campus Happenings
My apologies.Ibanez wrote:I know all about SCAD - my wife is an alumnus. $50k tuition sounds low.Baldy wrote: Correct. They are a SJW version of a mini-Liberty, but with $50K tuition. Their president makes about $10 million a year.
Re: Campus Happenings
I wasn't being a know it all, just stating that i'm aware of SCAD and Paula Wallace.Baldy wrote:My apologies.Ibanez wrote: I know all about SCAD - my wife is an alumnus. $50k tuition sounds low.
Turns out I might be a little gay. 89Hen 11/7/17
- CID1990
- Level5
- Posts: 25460
- Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:40 am
- I am a fan of: Pie
- A.K.A.: CID 1990
- Location: กรุงเทพมหานคร
Re: Campus Happenings
Im waiting for Notre Dame to cover up references and murals depicting the Catholic ChurchGrizalltheway wrote:He did do **** up things, he wasn't the first to discover North America, and he wasn't an American citizen. Why are you so triggered?BDKJMU wrote:Notre Dame is covering up its Columbus murals because he was an evil, racist brown er I mean white guy.
https://nypost.com/2019/01/21/notre-dam ... us-murals/
Columbus was just an instrument
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
"You however, are an insufferable ankle biting mental chihuahua..." - Clizzoris
-
- Supporter
- Posts: 26827
- Joined: Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:22 pm
- I am a fan of: Salisbury University
- Location: Republic of Western Sussex
Re: Campus Happenings
JoltinJoe would have posted by now.CID1990 wrote:Im waiting for Notre Dame to cover up references and murals depicting the Catholic ChurchGrizalltheway wrote: He did do **** up things, he wasn't the first to discover North America, and he wasn't an American citizen. Why are you so triggered?
Columbus was just an instrument
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
“I’m tired and done.” — 89Hen 3/27/22.
- CID1990
- Level5
- Posts: 25460
- Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:40 am
- I am a fan of: Pie
- A.K.A.: CID 1990
- Location: กรุงเทพมหานคร
Re: Campus Happenings
I was obliquely trolling for ClitzIvytalk wrote:JoltinJoe would have posted by now.CID1990 wrote:
Im waiting for Notre Dame to cover up references and murals depicting the Catholic Church
Columbus was just an instrument
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
anybody heard from the smug prick?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
"You however, are an insufferable ankle biting mental chihuahua..." - Clizzoris