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∞∞∞ wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:37 am
What Pelosi did is dumb, but talk about the complete hypocrisy on the right.

Trump and his gang break laws left and right, 190K dead, but I guess he's correct he can shoot someone and not lose a single voter.

Can't wait to see the dude arrested.
Did he murder 190k people?
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∞∞∞ wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:53 am
BDKJMU wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:44 am

Arrested for what. Making liberals cry? :lol:
Campaign finance fraud, nepotism, obstructing justice, soliciting foreign interference in elections, inciting violence, inciting voter fraud, directly profiting off the Presidency, maybe some light treason.
Enough about Obama. This is about Trump, remember?

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Ibanez wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:01 am
∞∞∞ wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:37 am
What Pelosi did is dumb, but talk about the complete hypocrisy on the right.

Trump and his gang break laws left and right, 190K dead, but I guess he's correct he can shoot someone and not lose a single voter.

Can't wait to see the dude arrested.
Did he murder 190k people?
Possibly. I'd ask the families of the dead.

At minimum, I'd find him and his merry gang guilty for criminal negligence if I was on a jury.

The 190K dead wasn't calling him out for murder though...you kinda missed the point. I just find it ridiculous that Pelosi (who did something wrong and admits to it) gets flogged by the right while Trump continually commits serious criminal activities in office (and more before the Presidency) while overseeing the death of 190K Americans on his watch.

And not only that, but his crimes undermine the fundamental foundations of democracy and American freedom.

But yes, let's talk about Pelosi. :roll:

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∞∞∞ wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:11 am
Ibanez wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:01 am


Did he murder 190k people?
Possibly. I'd ask the families of the dead.

At minimum, I'd find him and his merry gang guilty for criminal negligence if I was on a jury.

The 190K dead wasn't calling him out for murder though...you kinda missed the point. I just find it ridiculous that Pelosi (who did something wrong and admits to it) gets flogged by the right while Trump continually commits serious criminal activities in office (and more before the Presidency) while overseeing the death of 190K Americans on his watch.

And not only that, but his crimes undermine the fundamental foundations of democracy and American freedom.

But yes, let's talk about Pelosi. :roll:
You must have me confused for someone that likes Trump and would defend him. Pelosi admitted doing something and then blamed someone for setting her up. Yeah, she's taking responsibility. :roll:
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi declined to apologize Wednesday for her visit to a San Francisco hair salon that was supposed to be closed under the city’s coronavirus pandemic rules, and suggested the business had tricked her.
https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/art ... 538247.php

Spare me the the sanctimonious speech. You essentially just said, " Yeah, but Trump." I admit, I think the man is awful, but it is ok to say someone messed up with saying, 'Yeah, but Pelosi is ....." or " But Trump can do x....."

Let's do away with "Yeah, but's" :twocents: I know I'm trying to...
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Ibanez wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:01 am
Did he murder 190k people?
Possibly. I'd ask the families of the dead.

At minimum, I'd find him and his merry gang guilty for criminal negligence if I was on a jury.

The 190K dead wasn't calling him out for murder though...you kinda missed the point. I just find it ridiculous that Pelosi (who did something wrong and admits to it) gets flogged by the right while Trump continually commits serious criminal activities in office (and more before the Presidency) while overseeing the death of 190K Americans on his watch.

And not only that, but his crimes undermine the fundamental foundations of democracy and American freedom.

But yes, let's talk about Pelosi. :roll:
Um.. no, she did not admit any responsibility. She pulled the vast right wing conspiracy card directly out of the Clinton playbook and blamed the owner.

In fact, it was very Trumpy of her.

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Ibanez wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:23 am
∞∞∞ wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:11 am


Possibly. I'd ask the families of the dead.

At minimum, I'd find him and his merry gang guilty for criminal negligence if I was on a jury.

The 190K dead wasn't calling him out for murder though...you kinda missed the point. I just find it ridiculous that Pelosi (who did something wrong and admits to it) gets flogged by the right while Trump continually commits serious criminal activities in office (and more before the Presidency) while overseeing the death of 190K Americans on his watch.

And not only that, but his crimes undermine the fundamental foundations of democracy and American freedom.

But yes, let's talk about Pelosi. :roll:
You must have me confused for someone that likes Trump and would defend him. Pelosi admitted doing something and then blamed someone for setting her up. Yeah, she's taking responsibility. :roll:
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi declined to apologize Wednesday for her visit to a San Francisco hair salon that was supposed to be closed under the city’s coronavirus pandemic rules, and suggested the business had tricked her.
https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/art ... 538247.php

Spare me the the sanctimonious speech. You essentially just said, " Yeah, but Trump." I admit, I think the man is awful, but it is ok to say someone messed up with saying, 'Yeah, but Pelosi is ....." or " But Trump can do x....."

Let's do away with "Yeah, but's" :twocents: I know I'm trying to...
Sanctimonious? Pot...meet kettle.

Continue to ignore the urgent issues our democracy is facing so you can preach to me about "but" arguments, moderation, and how Pelosi didn't apologize. I'm sure your children will be glad to live in an ever-increasing authoritarian state "but" hey, both sides are the same.

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Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:55 am
I'm sure your children will be glad to live in an ever-increasing authoritarian state "but" hey, both sides are the same.
:suspicious:

"ever-increasing authoritarian state"

Says the one who has been a proponent of "the state" mandating that everyone wear masks, mandating that businesses close, mandating to restrict the free flow of goods, services, and people, mandating that "the state" track where people go and who the meet, etc., etc., etc.

Jeezus Christ, you're the authoritarian state's biggest cheerleader around here. :silly:

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Baldy wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:09 pm
∞∞∞ wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:55 am
I'm sure your children will be glad to live in an ever-increasing authoritarian state "but" hey, both sides are the same.
:suspicious:

"ever-increasing authoritarian state"

Says the one who has been a proponent of "the state" mandating that everyone wear masks, mandating that businesses close, mandating to restrict the free flow of goods, services, and people, mandating that "the state" track where people go and who the meet, etc., etc., etc.

Jeezus Christ, you're the authoritarian state's biggest cheerleader around here. :silly:
You don't have to take anything from me. In fact, you shouldn't.

But you should listen to the immigrants who left authoritarian states. You should listen to the warnings from holocaust survivors. You should be listening to scholars and historians. The warning bells have been ringing for a while now.

I only hope that enough people hear the bell and heed the call that America is in genuine danger. We've been too comfortable in thinking it can't happen here, but our system isn't as robust as we want to believe.

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∞∞∞ wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:55 am
Ibanez wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:23 am

You must have me confused for someone that likes Trump and would defend him. Pelosi admitted doing something and then blamed someone for setting her up. Yeah, she's taking responsibility. :roll:


https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/art ... 538247.php

Spare me the the sanctimonious speech. You essentially just said, " Yeah, but Trump." I admit, I think the man is awful, but it is ok to say someone messed up with saying, 'Yeah, but Pelosi is ....." or " But Trump can do x....."

Let's do away with "Yeah, but's" :twocents: I know I'm trying to...
Sanctimonious? Pot...meet kettle.

Continue to ignore the urgent issues our democracy is facing so you can preach to me about "but" arguments, moderation, and how Pelosi didn't apologize. I'm sure your children will be glad to live in an ever-increasing authoritarian state "but" hey, both sides are the same.
Can you list me a couple of those urgent issues?
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∞∞∞ wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:31 pm
Baldy wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:09 pm

:suspicious:

"ever-increasing authoritarian state"

Says the one who has been a proponent of "the state" mandating that everyone wear masks, mandating that businesses close, mandating to restrict the free flow of goods, services, and people, mandating that "the state" track where people go and who the meet, etc., etc., etc.

Jeezus Christ, you're the authoritarian state's biggest cheerleader around here. :silly:
You don't have to take anything from me. In fact, you shouldn't.

But you should listen to the immigrants who left authoritarian states. You should listen to the warnings from holocaust survivors. You should be listening to scholars and historians. The warning bells have been ringing for a while now.

I only hope that enough people hear the bell and heed the call that America is in genuine danger. We've been too comfortable in thinking it can't happen here, but our system isn't as robust as we want to believe.

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Most of the immigrants I know who left authoritarian states, particularly the Soviet Union, are Trump supporters. They warn about BLM and ANTIFA, not Trump.
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∞∞∞ wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:31 pm
Baldy wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:09 pm

:suspicious:

"ever-increasing authoritarian state"

Says the one who has been a proponent of "the state" mandating that everyone wear masks, mandating that businesses close, mandating to restrict the free flow of goods, services, and people, mandating that "the state" track where people go and who the meet, etc., etc., etc.

Jeezus Christ, you're the authoritarian state's biggest cheerleader around here. :silly:
You don't have to take anything from me. In fact, you shouldn't.

But you should listen to the immigrants who left authoritarian states. You should listen to the warnings from holocaust survivors. You should be listening to scholars and historians. The warning bells have been ringing for a while now.

I only hope that enough people hear the bell and heed the call that America is in genuine danger. We've been too comfortable in thinking it can't happen here, but our system isn't as robust as we want to believe.

edit: https://eand.co/we-dont-know-how-to-war ... ff80912391
The warning bells have been ringing for a while. This isn't a phenomenon that started with or is unique to Trump or the Republicans/right. Some of the louder bells - The Homeland Security Act and the Patriot Act and President Obama's overuse of executive orders were done by Democrats or with significant Democratic support.

The threat isn't from Trump and the Republicans. The threat is from a federal government that wants more power and more authority over our lives.

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∞∞∞ wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:31 pm
Baldy wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:09 pm

:suspicious:

"ever-increasing authoritarian state"

Says the one who has been a proponent of "the state" mandating that everyone wear masks, mandating that businesses close, mandating to restrict the free flow of goods, services, and people, mandating that "the state" track where people go and who the meet, etc., etc., etc.

Jeezus Christ, you're the authoritarian state's biggest cheerleader around here. :silly:
You don't have to take anything from me. In fact, you shouldn't.

But you should listen to the immigrants who left authoritarian states. You should listen to the warnings from holocaust survivors. You should be listening to scholars and historians. The warning bells have been ringing for a while now.

I only hope that enough people hear the bell and heed the call that America is in genuine danger. We've been too comfortable in thinking it can't happen here, but our system isn't as robust as we want to believe.

edit: https://eand.co/we-dont-know-how-to-war ... ff80912391
Exactly, and that's why the vast majority of those folks are the ones who are throwing the warning signs about Antifa and BLM. They're the ones who are fleeing authoritarian states like California, New York, Illinois, and New Jersey to freer states like Florida, Texas, Arizona, and Georgia.

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∞∞∞ wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:55 am
Ibanez wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:23 am

You must have me confused for someone that likes Trump and would defend him. Pelosi admitted doing something and then blamed someone for setting her up. Yeah, she's taking responsibility. :roll:


https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/art ... 538247.php

Spare me the the sanctimonious speech. You essentially just said, " Yeah, but Trump." I admit, I think the man is awful, but it is ok to say someone messed up with saying, 'Yeah, but Pelosi is ....." or " But Trump can do x....."

Let's do away with "Yeah, but's" :twocents: I know I'm trying to...
Sanctimonious? Pot...meet kettle.

Continue to ignore the urgent issues our democracy is facing so you can preach to me about "but" arguments, moderation, and how Pelosi didn't apologize. I'm sure your children will be glad to live in an ever-increasing authoritarian state "but" hey, both sides are the same.
So you have nothing. Just spewing out opinions about people instead of sticking to facts. Got it.


I'm not ignoring anything. I'm merely stating that you are doing exactly what Trumpers do - you deflect and pull a "but" argument. Pelosi didn't admit wrongdoing. She blamed someone else for her own failure. If you're going to bitch and moan about Trump or a Republican not accepting responsibility, make sure your example holds up to scrutiny.

And there's no need to bring my child into this. Don't be a fucking dick. :tothehand: It'd be best to just not go there with anyone. You don't have a goddamn clue what I'm teaching her. So let's just leave the children out of this - b/c it is here that you know absolutely nothing and are 100%, without a doubt, positively wrong and you fucking know it. :tothehand: :tothehand:
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∞∞∞ wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:31 pm
Baldy wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:09 pm

:suspicious:

"ever-increasing authoritarian state"

Says the one who has been a proponent of "the state" mandating that everyone wear masks, mandating that businesses close, mandating to restrict the free flow of goods, services, and people, mandating that "the state" track where people go and who the meet, etc., etc., etc.

Jeezus Christ, you're the authoritarian state's biggest cheerleader around here. :silly:
You don't have to take anything from me. In fact, you shouldn't.

But you should listen to the immigrants who left authoritarian states. You should listen to the warnings from holocaust survivors. You should be listening to scholars and historians. The warning bells have been ringing for a while now.

I only hope that enough people hear the bell and heed the call that America is in genuine danger. We've been too comfortable in thinking it can't happen here, but our system isn't as robust as we want to believe.

edit: https://eand.co/we-dont-know-how-to-war ... ff80912391
Plenty of us have been hearing the warning calls for sometime. Plenty of us on here and in the real world didn't drink the kool aid that is Trump and realizes the threat he poses. Will the Republic fall? Probably not. But that isn't to say that there won't be any damage or fall out from a President who was only elected b/c he wasn't Clinton or an establishment politician.
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UNI88 wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:41 pm
∞∞∞ wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:31 pm


You don't have to take anything from me. In fact, you shouldn't.

But you should listen to the immigrants who left authoritarian states. You should listen to the warnings from holocaust survivors. You should be listening to scholars and historians. The warning bells have been ringing for a while now.

I only hope that enough people hear the bell and heed the call that America is in genuine danger. We've been too comfortable in thinking it can't happen here, but our system isn't as robust as we want to believe.

edit: https://eand.co/we-dont-know-how-to-war ... ff80912391
The warning bells have been ringing for a while. This isn't a phenomenon that started with or is unique to Trump or the Republicans/right. Some of the louder bells - The Homeland Security Act and the Patriot Act and President Obama's overuse of executive orders were done by Democrats or with significant Democratic support.

The threat isn't from Trump and the Republicans. The threat is from a federal government that wants more power and more authority over our lives.
You're such a dipshit. Democrats have nothing to do with government overreach and it's hurried pace towards an authoritative state. It's all lies. LIES!
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I would say Trump's unprecedented among presidents in his impulsiveness and ego and buffoonery but the idea he's unique among presidents in contempt for rules and separation of powers? Hahahahahahahahahaha :lol:
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Fair. I won't say that again.

That does bring up some food for thought. I think a bunch here post way too much info about their kids and families (including photos). Activities, accomplishments locations, sometimes names. I get they're your kids and families, not mine, but children should have a right to privacy even if they can't control their privacy at this point in their lives. They'll be grown men and women some day.

This is also a public message board and the internet is forever. Besides privacy, there's probably a safety issue at play.

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∞∞∞ wrote:Fair. I won't say that again.

That does bring up some food for thought. I think a bunch here post way too much info about their kids and families (including photos). Activities, accomplishments locations, sometimes names. I get they're your kids and families, not mine, but children should have a right to privacy even if they can't control their privacy at this point in their lives. They'll be grown men and women some day.

This is also a public message board and the internet is forever. Besides privacy, there's probably a safety issue at play.

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Ibanez wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:25 pm
UNI88 wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:41 pm

The warning bells have been ringing for a while. This isn't a phenomenon that started with or is unique to Trump or the Republicans/right. Some of the louder bells - The Homeland Security Act and the Patriot Act and President Obama's overuse of executive orders were done by Democrats or with significant Democratic support.

The threat isn't from Trump and the Republicans. The threat is from a federal government that wants more power and more authority over our lives.
You're such a dipshit. Democrats have nothing to do with government overreach and it's hurried pace towards an authoritative state. It's all lies. LIES!
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∞∞∞ wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:44 pm
Fair. I won't say that again.

That does bring up some food for thought. I think a bunch here post way too much info about their kids and families (including photos). Activities, accomplishments locations, sometimes names. I get they're your kids and families, not mine, but children should have a right to privacy even if they can't control their privacy at this point in their lives. They'll be grown men and women some day.

This is also a public message board and the internet is forever. Besides privacy, there's probably a safety issue at play.

:twocents:
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if I was on a jury
A funny yet scary thought. You have a big problem separating your beliefs from law. A good defense attorney will get rid of you before you ever got on the jury.
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93henfan wrote:
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89Hen wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:11 am
if I was on a jury
A funny yet scary thought. You have a big problem separating your beliefs from law. A good defense attorney will get rid of you before you ever got on the jury.
I was about to say ... any attorney worth a penny would use the first strike on Treep


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