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[Ibanez]

That's not what she says but it is what she implies when she speaks out forcefully against 1/6/21 while saying little about the AnTIfA/BLM insurrections. Illiberals like AOChe want to focus on 1/6/21 and pretend that the AnTIfA/BLM insurrections weren't an attack on our governments. National populists want to focus on the AnTIfA/BLM insurrections and pretend that 1/6/21 was just a peaceful protest. Both approaches are dishonest.

And as far as the MAGAts anger, it's good to know that anger over a double-standard is misplaced. We can now let POC and women know that their anger over how they were/are treated is misplaced.

Reality upsets illiberals just as much as MAGAts - climate change, biological gender, socialism doesn't work on a large scale, etc.

Interesting that you view BLM protests as an attack on our government and therefore the same. I’m not saying that’s wrong but perhaps a convenient simplification? Like comparing the grievances of Ya’ll Queda to POC and women?

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[kalm]

Interesting that you view BLM protests as an attack on our government and therefore the same. I’m not saying that’s wrong but perhaps a convenient simplification? Like comparing the grievances of Ya’ll Queda to POC and women?

What started as BLM protests devolved into AntFa riots/insurrections whose main targets were courthouses and other government institutions. Those were an attack on our government and were ignored or quietly supported by AOChe and her comrades.

Giving one set of attacks on the government a pass while focusing efforts on the other is a double-standard. The mistreatment of POC and women is also a double-standard. A post-partisan believes that double standards are bad regardless of whether they might agree with them.

So the mistreatment of POC and women is the same as the mistreatment of MAGA’s?

[kalm]

Of course that’s not OK, if that’s what she has said in comparing the two.

And reality is what upsets most people…but especially MAGA’s. And yes..their anger is mostly misplaced.

Reality upsets illiberals just as much as MAGAts - climate change, biological gender, socialism doesn't work on a large scale, etc.

So what about a changing climate, gender identification, and a mixed economy is unreal?

[UNI88]

Reality upsets illiberals just as much as MAGAts - climate change, biological gender, socialism doesn't work on a large scale, etc.

So what about a changing climate, gender identification, and a mixed economy is unreal?

You're the one that posted "reality is what upsets most people…but especially MAGA’s", I was just giving you an examples of realities that upset pseudo-progressives.

• The climate is changing and they just whine and whine about it rather then learning to deal with it like you expect the MAGAts to.
• Pseudo-progressives want to deny biological gender is real and pretend that only gender identity matters (I think they both matter). The reality upsets them.
• Pseudo-progressives also want to deny that Socialism has never worked on a large scale and expect people to believe that it will this time without giving any real reasons why. They're denying reality.

[kalm]

So what about a changing climate, gender identification, and a mixed economy is unreal?

You're the one that posted "reality is what upsets most people…but especially MAGA’s", I was just giving you an examples of realities that upset pseudo-progressives.

• The climate is changing and they just whine and whine about it rather then learning to deal with it like you expect the MAGAts to.
• Pseudo-progressives want to deny biological gender is real and pretend that only gender identity matters (I think they both matter). The reality upsets them.
• Pseudo-progressives also want to deny that Socialism has never worked on a large scale and expect people to believe that it will this time without giving any real reasons why. They're denying reality.

Hmmm…I can now see why your pseudo take on pseudo-progressives upsets you.

You’re a kinder, more thoughtful version of MAGA…and I like it!

[UNI88]

What started as BLM protests devolved into AntFa riots/insurrections whose main targets were courthouses and other government institutions. Those were an attack on our government and were ignored or quietly supported by AOChe and her comrades.

Giving one set of attacks on the government a pass while focusing efforts on the other is a double-standard. The mistreatment of POC and women is also a double-standard. A post-partisan believes that double standards are bad regardless of whether they might agree with them.

So the mistreatment of POC and women is the same as the mistreatment of MAGA’s?

Where did I say MAGAts were being mistreated? The MAGAts aren't being mistreated, the ones that participated in January 6 should be investigated and prosecuted if appropriate.

I posted that the difference in treatment between the AnTIFa/BLM insurrections and January 6 is a double standard that upsets the MAGAts and you replied that their anger is misplaced. I disagree. Letting those traitorous criminals who participated in the aNTifA/BLM insurrections largely get away with it fueled the anger of the MAGAts and helped lead to January 6. Believing otherwise and focusing on January 6 is just sticking your head in the sand. The best way forward, the way that real leaders would follow, is to address all grievances.

[UNI88]

You're the one that posted "reality is what upsets most people…but especially MAGA’s", I was just giving you an examples of realities that upset pseudo-progressives.

• The climate is changing and they just whine and whine about it rather then learning to deal with it like you expect the MAGAts to.
• Pseudo-progressives want to deny biological gender is real and pretend that only gender identity matters (I think they both matter). The reality upsets them.
• Pseudo-progressives also want to deny that Socialism has never worked on a large scale and expect people to believe that it will this time without giving any real reasons why. They're denying reality.

Hmmm…I can now see why your pseudo take on pseudo-progressives upsets you.

You’re a kinder, more thoughtful version of MAGA…and I like it!

And I can now see why your pseudo take on conservatism and open markets upsets you.

You're a kinder, more thoughtful version of Mao ...

[kalm]

So the mistreatment of POC and women is the same as the mistreatment of MAGA’s?

Where did I say MAGAts were being mistreated? The MAGAts aren't being mistreated, the ones that participated in January 6 should be investigated and prosecuted if appropriate.

I posted that the difference in treatment between the AnTIFa/BLM insurrections and January 6 is a double standard that upsets the MAGAts and you replied that their anger is misplaced. I disagree. Letting those traitorous criminals who participated in the aNTifA/BLM insurrections largely get away with it fueled the anger of the MAGAts and helped lead to January 6. Believing otherwise and focusing on January 6 is just sticking your head in the sand. The best way forward, the way that real leaders would follow, is to address all grievances.

So what are the BLM grievances?

What are the MAGA grievances?

Let’s reset to there.

[kalm]

Hmmm…I can now see why your pseudo take on pseudo-progressives upsets you.

You’re a kinder, more thoughtful version of MAGA…and I like it!

And I can now see why your pseudo take on conservatism and open markets upsets you.

You're a kinder, more thoughtful version of Mao ...

Show me where capitalism has ever worked without assistance from socialism.

[UNI88]

Where did I say MAGAts were being mistreated? The MAGAts aren't being mistreated, the ones that participated in January 6 should be investigated and prosecuted if appropriate.

I posted that the difference in treatment between the AnTIFa/BLM insurrections and January 6 is a double standard that upsets the MAGAts and you replied that their anger is misplaced. I disagree. Letting those traitorous criminals who participated in the aNTifA/BLM insurrections largely get away with it fueled the anger of the MAGAts and helped lead to January 6. Believing otherwise and focusing on January 6 is just sticking your head in the sand. The best way forward, the way that real leaders would follow, is to address all grievances.

So what are the BLM grievances?

What are the MAGA grievances?

Let’s reset to there.

You're either obtuse or your avoiding the point.

• Were the ANtiFA/BLM riots or January 6 an appropriate way to attempt to address address either group's grievances?
• Did the riots or Capital sit-in accomplish their objectives?
• Should either group be treated with kid gloves when it comes to prosecution?

Address the grievances and prosecute the criminals from both groups.

[UNI88]

And I can now see why your pseudo take on conservatism and open markets upsets you.

You're a kinder, more thoughtful version of Mao ...

Show me where capitalism has ever worked without assistance from socialism.

Surrender accepted.

[kalm]

So what are the BLM grievances?

What are the MAGA grievances?

Let’s reset to there.

You're either obtuse or your avoiding the point.

• Were the ANtiFA/BLM riots or January 6 an appropriate way to attempt to address address either group's grievances?
• Did the riots or Capital sit-in accomplish their objectives?
• Should either group be treated with kid gloves when it comes to prosecution?

Address the grievances and prosecute the criminals from both groups.

Rioting is inappropriate.

What were the objectives in your opinion?

No.

[kalm]

Show me where capitalism has ever worked without assistance from socialism.

Surrender accepted.

Indeed.

[UNI88]

You're either obtuse or your avoiding the point.

• Were the ANtiFA/BLM riots or January 6 an appropriate way to attempt to address address either group's grievances?
• Did the riots or Capital sit-in accomplish their objectives?
• Should either group be treated with kid gloves when it comes to prosecution?

Address the grievances and prosecute the criminals from both groups.

Rioting is inappropriate.

What were the objectives in your opinion?

No.

Agreed.

The objective of the Capital sit-in was to overturn the election results. It failed. You tell me the objective of the AnTiFA/BLM riots and whether they achieved them.

Why is one group being treated with kid gloves (at least in Portland)?

[kalm]

Rioting is inappropriate.

What were the objectives in your opinion?

No.

Agreed.

The objective of the Capital sit-in was to overturn the election results. It failed. You tell me the objective of the AnTiFA/BLM riots and whether they achieved them.

Why is one group being treated with kid gloves (at least in Portland)?

I’m not sure Antifa and BLM have the same objective. Antifa appear to be anarchists. BLM the, the organization, appears to be a radical racial activism group. So chaos and kill whitey?

Portland has a serious leadership problem. The conflation of an earnest movement with extremist elements.

[UNI88]

Agreed.

The objective of the Capital sit-in was to overturn the election results. It failed. You tell me the objective of the AnTiFA/BLM riots and whether they achieved them.

Why is one group being treated with kid gloves (at least in Portland)?

I’m not sure Antifa and BLM have the same objective. Antifa appear to be anarchists. BLM the, the organization, appears to be a radical racial activism group. So chaos and kill whitey?

Portland has a serious leadership problem. The conflation of an earnest movement with extremist elements.

I'd agree on AnTIfA and BLM's objectives except I would add destroy sh!t and attempt to make others just as miserable as they are to aNTifA's objectives. Did the riot (or even the protests) help either achieve their objectives and if yes how so?

Portland has an extremely serious leadership problem along with a larger percentage of its population that appears to be clueless (I've seen some confidential survey info on houselessness and other issues broken out by region of Oregon that blew my mind).

I should have also stated that the one group that is being treated with kid gloves in Portland is also being treated with kid gloves by Democrats in Congress (kind of like how Republicans in Congress want to treat January 6 with kid gloves).

[CID1990]

So what are the BLM grievances?

What are the MAGA grievances?

Let’s reset to there.

You're either obtuse or your avoiding the point.

With klam that’s a day ending in Y


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[kalm]

You're either obtuse or your avoiding the point.

With klam that’s a day ending in Y


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Well excuse for not knowing everything and asking questions, Mr. Knowie Know It All!

[AZGrizFan]

And I can now see why your pseudo take on conservatism and open markets upsets you.

You're a kinder, more thoughtful version of Mao ...

Show me where capitalism has ever worked without assistance from socialism.

Show me what parts you think are socialism.

[kalm]

Show me where capitalism has ever worked without assistance from socialism.

Show me what parts you think are socialism.

Banking regulations.

[AZGrizFan]

Ilhan Omar is not a good person.

[AZGrizFan]

Show me what parts you think are socialism.

Banking regulations.

So, ANY regulation then? Why specify banking regulations? And if it’s ANY regulation, then you are representing that ANY government regulation would imply socialism.

[kalm]

Banking regulations.

So, ANY regulation then? Why specify banking regulations? And if it’s ANY regulation, then you are representing that ANY government regulation would imply socialism.

So I’ve been told…

[UNI88]

Banking regulations.

So, ANY regulation then? Why specify banking regulations? And if it’s ANY regulation, then you are representing that ANY government regulation would imply socialism.

Pro-socialists want to claim that any government program is socialist. Remember all those examples of socialism memes that included law enforcement? That was before law enforcement became racist & evil?

[kalm]

So, ANY regulation then? Why specify banking regulations? And if it’s ANY regulation, then you are representing that ANY government regulation would imply socialism.

Pro-socialists want to claim that any government program is socialist. Remember all those examples of socialism memes that included law enforcement? That was before law enforcement became racist & evil?

Hey! What about us mixedeconomyists!