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UNI88 wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 7:37 am pontius paxton and mullah abbott are at it again ...

Why does Texas want to kill guaranteed income, but fund school vouchers?
Paxton’s lawsuit to axe Uplift Harris, which he describes as a “welfare scheme” and "socialist experiment," comes while Texas pushes for a controversial education savings account program, also known as school vouchers. These accounts use taxpayer money to help parents pay for their children's private school tuition.
So, what's the difference between these two publicly funded state programs?

According to Southern Methodist University political science professor Calvin Jillson, Paxton’s lawsuit is “clearly political."
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Paxton’s lawsuit argues Harris County’s program violates the Texas Constitution's equal rights protections. Moreover, it states that Texas law prohibits public funds payments to private people without any return on investment.

“The program’s purpose is not to accomplish a legitimate public purpose but rather to personally benefit a select few through unrestricted monthly cash payments to a random selection of Harris County residents,” the 16-page lawsuit states.
It saves taxpayers $$ if the voucher amount is less than the per pupil spending amount for that location (2021 in US avg was $14,347 according to Census)
https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-r ... Y%25202020.
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:50 am
UNI88 wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 7:37 am pontius paxton and mullah abbott are at it again ...

Why does Texas want to kill guaranteed income, but fund school vouchers?
It saves taxpayers $$ if the voucher amount is less than the per pupil spending amount for that location (2021 in US avg was $14,347 according to Census)
https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-r ... Y%25202020.
Do they save taxpayer $$? Or does the school system still collect the same tax dollars but lose the portion going to vouchers?

Vouchers should be used to help students whose parents can't afford it find alternatives to failing schools. Giving vouchers to kids from middle class and wealthy families who have access to good public schools is just as much of a “welfare scheme” and "socialist experiment" designed to to personally benefit a select few as Uplift Harris.

Public education is just as important to the future of this country as sound infrastructure and a strong military. Why do MAQA yahoos want to gut it and with it our future?
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 11:08 am
BDKJMU wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:50 am
It saves taxpayers $$ if the voucher amount is less than the per pupil spending amount for that location (2021 in US avg was $14,347 according to Census)
https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-r ... Y%25202020.
Do they save taxpayer $$? Or does the school system still collect the same tax dollars but lose the portion going to vouchers?

Vouchers should be used to help students whose parents can't afford it find alternatives to failing schools. Giving vouchers to kids from middle class and wealthy families who have access to good public schools is just as much of a “welfare scheme” and "socialist experiment" designed to to personally benefit a select few as Uplift Harris.

Public education is just as important to the future of this country as sound infrastructure and a strong military. Why do MAQA yahoos want to gut it and with it our future?
It doesn't save the taxpayer at all, it's always a net loss unless the voucher amount is really small, and people pushing for vouchers aren't looking for a small payout. There's economy of scale for public schools, so there's a benefit to having more students in the system. Vouchers start to take out a disproportionate amount of money that the taxpayer can't recoup and the school the kids leave from don't all of a sudden have that much less cost to spend. Vouchers just degrade the school system.

Like you said, and like I've positioned before, vouchers, as a short term remedy, can and should be used for students in clearly failing districts (mostly inner-city) who can't wait for the fixes to be made and shouldn't have to bear the burden of a crappy education. But they should never be used as too many well-to-do suburbanites what them for, which is to lower the price of the private tuition they are already willing to pull their kids out of perfectly fine public schools for. I have no interest in subsidizing the private school tuition for those folks and their choices.
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GannonFan wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 6:44 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 7:18 pm Oh my Lord, it’s just a freaking table

you nerds can post the day away about a stinkin table….

C’mon man

Now i have to go look at myself in the mirror and ask why am I reading this drivel
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 6:51 pm
GannonFan wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 6:44 am
That whooshing sound you heard was the point flying right over your head. Pay no attention to it.
Nah was to dull to have a point
I'll take your word for it. You know more about dull than I do ... ;)
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The House is practically functioning as a parliament, with Mike Johnson as its 'prime minister'
The U.S. doesn’t have a parliamentary system, but the House of Representatives is practically functioning as a parliament. It’s a coalition government of lots of Democrats and various swaths of Republicans – depending on the issue.

So, Johnson could be perceived as the prime minister of this coalition government. He had the votes for Republicans to elect him as the successor to former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., last October. In pure parliamentary style, the House even held a "vote of no confidence" on McCarthy’s leadership. Johnson faces a similar threat from Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., over the coalition he built with Republicans and Democrats to avoid government shutdowns and pass the foreign aid package.
Interesting concept with some truth to it. You have multiple parties/factions in the House, for example:
- Freedom Caucus
- Problem Solvers Caucus
- Progressive Caucus
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Arizona Dem says state is bluer 'not because Arizona is necessarily a blue state,' but from distaste for GOP 'extremism'
However, despite Arizona's seemingly clear shift to the left, a Democratic lawmaker recently said that the state was not as blue as it might appear, pointing to what she said was voter distaste with GOP "extremism" as a reason why her party has found success.

"The trajectory of Arizona has been steadily trending bluer on a statewide level," state Sen. Priya Sundareshan recently told Politico. "It's not because Arizona is necessarily a blue state but it's because Arizona has rejected extremism and the Republican party has become extreme in the age of Trumpism."
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 10:56 pm
UNI88 wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:45 pm Boeing whistleblower found dead in US



Did Boeing pull a clinton?
Another one dead. Was 45.
Whistleblower Josh Dean of Boeing supplier Spirit AeroSystems has died
https://www.seattletimes.com/business/w ... -has-died/
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 4:36 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 10:56 pm
Another one dead. Was 45.
Whistleblower Josh Dean of Boeing supplier Spirit AeroSystems has died
https://www.seattletimes.com/business/w ... -has-died/
Anyone heard from SG?
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:50 am
UNI88 wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 7:37 am pontius paxton and mullah abbott are at it again ...

Why does Texas want to kill guaranteed income, but fund school vouchers?

It saves taxpayers $$ if the voucher amount is less than the per pupil spending amount for that location (2021 in US avg was $14,347 according to Census)
https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-r ... Y%25202020.
keeps their kids away from brown folk too. :coffee:
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UNI88 wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 5:17 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 4:36 pm
Another one dead. Was 45.
Whistleblower Josh Dean of Boeing supplier Spirit AeroSystems has died
https://www.seattletimes.com/business/w ... -has-died/
Anyone heard from SG?
Thats right, he worked for Boeing?
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BDKJMU wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 7:50 am
UNI88 wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 5:17 pm
Anyone heard from SG?
Thats right, he worked for Boeing?
Yes. I hope he and his family are ok.
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UNI88 wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 8:02 am
BDKJMU wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 7:50 am
Thats right, he worked for Boeing?
Yes. I hope he and his family are ok.
Well according to his profile he or someone was on here yesterday

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UNI88 wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 8:02 am
BDKJMU wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 7:50 am
Thats right, he worked for Boeing?
Yes. I hope he and his family are ok.
Yeah, seriously. Hope he’s not too pissed at me for in the recent past posting articles about Boeing’s issues..
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More red enclaves that are paying a vastly disproportilnate share of the bill for city services in major blue cities need to do this.
-Highland Park in Dallas did it.
-Buckhead in Atlanta is close to doing it (would take 40% of Atlanta’s tax base with them).
Etc.
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BDKJMU wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 9:08 am
UNI88 wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 8:02 am

Yes. I hope he and his family are ok.
Yeah, seriously. Hope he’s not too pissed at me for in the recent past posting articles about Boeing’s issues..
He's been here long enough to know better than get pissed off in here - best of luck to him.

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BDKJMU wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 9:35 am

More white-flight enclaves that are paying a vastly disproportilnate share of the bill for city services in major blue cities need to do this.
-Highland Park in Dallas did it.
-Buckhead in Atlanta is close to doing it (would take 40% of Atlanta’s tax base with them).
Etc.
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BDKJMU wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 9:08 am
UNI88 wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 8:02 am
Yes. I hope he and his family are ok.
Yeah, seriously. Hope he’s not too pissed at me for in the recent past posting articles about Boeing’s issues..
He gives as good as he gets. He's not pissed at you.
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